JetBlue Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Yet Darron Lee is considered undersized at 232. They are all "undersized" by the traditional definition of LB but the game has changed and all three of them fit the new type of linebacker/safety hybrid. Since both Jack and Smith are hurt, Lee was the best choice to fill a real need. Like most rookies, he will need to get stronger but the one thing he has that you can teach or coach is SPEED. I can see it now Thunder (Mauldin) and Lightning (Lee). Add Bruce Carter and we have dramatically upgraded the speed at this position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 I wish we could have all 3 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 I don't think speed is the name of the game for Mauldin Enviado de meu XT1563 usando Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 It really is a new NFL linebacker. The Falcons took a similar body type three pics before us, a safety/linebacker hybrid. Todd had Buchanan in Arizona, took him in the first round. He knows he needs a guy like this for his defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Throw Noah Spence in the mix, and man a Spence, Lee, Harrison, Mauldin mix of LB's looks devastating behind that DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 24 minutes ago, JetBlue said: Yet Darron Lee is considered undersized at 232. They are all "undersized" by the traditional definition of LB but the game has changed and all three of them fit the new type of linebacker/safety hybrid. Since both Jack and Smith are hurt, Lee was the best choice to fill a real need. Like most rookies, he will need to get stronger but the one thing he has that you can teach or coach is SPEED. I can see it now Thunder (Mauldin) and Lightning (Lee). Add Bruce Carter and we have dramatically upgraded the speed at this position. Would be awesome if the Jets somehow found a way to draft Kentrell Brothers and add him to the group of ILB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 It doesn't matter how fast you are if you can't get off a block. I trust the coaches will use him accordingly, but he is not a prototype 3-4 ILB. I don't think the game has changed in that regard. Offensive linemen aren't getting smaller and weaker. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Noah Spence or Jack tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/myles-jack?id=2555329 245 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 There's no way Myles Jack is 225 pounds. Only thing about this pick that bothers me is profootballfocus said he really wasn't very good in coverage, but they also told my Kyle Wilson was. So we'll see I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmhertz Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 5 hours ago, JetBlue said: Yet Darron Lee is considered undersized at 232. They are all "undersized" by the traditional definition of LB but the game has changed and all three of them fit the new type of linebacker/safety hybrid. Since both Jack and Smith are hurt, Lee was the best choice to fill a real need. Like most rookies, he will need to get stronger but the one thing he has that you can teach or coach is SPEED. I can see it now Thunder (Mauldin) and Lightning (Lee). Add Bruce Carter and we have dramatically upgraded the speed at this position. Lee said he was much bigger today than he was at the Combine. Greg Gabriel former scout said has frame to hold 250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 What really sucks is Myles Jack is the exact player we wanted and envisioned with speed and ability to cover at LB. Im really surprised we didn't consider him. His knee condition must be absolutely terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 10 minutes ago, Shockwave said: What really sucks is Myles Jack is the exact player we wanted and envisioned with speed and ability to cover at LB. Im really surprised we didn't consider him. His knee condition must be absolutely terrible. Must be since he completely fell out of the first round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Lee is also almost certainly a better athlete than both of them, though we can't be entirely sure since Jack and Smith both had to run the 40 in Rascal scooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 6 hours ago, The Troll said: It doesn't matter how fast you are if you can't get off a block. I trust the coaches will use him accordingly, but he is not a prototype 3-4 ILB. I don't think the game has changed in that regard. Offensive linemen aren't getting smaller and weaker. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk We don't have a problem with Oline getting to the second level with 3 players demanding double teams. We have a problem with coverage, and pursuit. This is not Rex Ryan's defense anymore. This new 3-4 has certainly changed that much. A bunch of teams are doing it including Arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted April 29, 2016 Author Share Posted April 29, 2016 10 hours ago, Guilhermezmc said: I don't think speed is the name of the game for Mauldin Enviado de meu XT1563 usando Tapatalk Hence why I said "THUNDER" for Mauldin to Lees "Lightning". Read slower next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Are you just starting threads now about the same things you keep incessantly yelling at people about in the regular draft threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted April 29, 2016 Author Share Posted April 29, 2016 9 hours ago, SayNoToDMC said: There's no way Myles Jack is 225 pounds. Only thing about this pick that bothers me is profootballfocus said he really wasn't very good in coverage, but they also told my Kyle Wilson was. So we'll see I guess He may have gained weight since the season ended, but this was listed weight. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=myles%20jack%20height%20weight. No comment about Jaylon Smith being 229 llbs? If he was healthy he would have been a top 15 maybe top 10 pick. By the way anyone who says Lee was not very good in coverage has lost all credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted April 29, 2016 Author Share Posted April 29, 2016 3 hours ago, NYs Stepchild said: We don't have a problem with Oline getting to the second level with 3 players demanding double teams. We have a problem with coverage, and pursuit. This is not Rex Ryan's defense anymore. This new 3-4 has certainly changed that much. A bunch of teams are doing it including Arizona. Glad someone else gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainejet Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Simply said, Mac picked another Aaron Maybin. A guy that is very quick, yes, but will never be able to make that transition to the pros. The pick is garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 3 hours ago, Shockwave said: What really sucks is Myles Jack is the exact player we wanted and envisioned with speed and ability to cover at LB. Im really surprised we didn't consider him. His knee condition must be absolutely terrible. It is not healed and until he recovers fully he has value but its risky, he will probably go in late 2nd or 3rd but who knows, I have a torn meniscus and it is a major deal, He also has other damage, he might have totaled the knee, there lies the concern, you draft him on a wing and a prayer, probably goes today at some point and probably to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, Mainejet said: Simply said, Mac picked another Aaron Maybin. A guy that is very quick, yes, but will never be able to make that transition to the pros. The pick is garbage. Maybin is not the same player at all, at least watch him play in pre season before you make your judgement, this guy can fly and he can squeeze through creases and get to the db. MAC/Bowles are good at picking LBs, any great 3/4 D is defined more by their L backers than anything else, we need 2 more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 14 minutes ago, Mainejet said: Simply said, Mac picked another Aaron Maybin. A guy that is very quick, yes, but will never be able to make that transition to the pros. The pick is garbage. Well, Maybin tried to rush the passer as an OLB at 230. This guy is going to try to range sideline to sideline at 225, so not quite the same thing. I've never seen him play, and I'm not a GM, but I wasn't thrilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted April 29, 2016 Author Share Posted April 29, 2016 13 minutes ago, Mainejet said: Simply said, Mac picked another Aaron Maybin. A guy that is very quick, yes, but will never be able to make that transition to the pros. The pick is garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted April 29, 2016 Author Share Posted April 29, 2016 3 hours ago, Shockwave said: What really sucks is Myles Jack is the exact player we wanted and envisioned with speed and ability to cover at LB. Im really surprised we didn't consider him. His knee condition must be absolutely terrible. I don't get it Shock; if you liked Jack why are you so down on Lee? They are VERY similar players and if Jack was healthy there is no way he would have been available at 20. Even Lee was projected to go before 20. We got good value at a position of real need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 35 minutes ago, Mainejet said: Simply said, Mac picked another Aaron Maybin. A guy that is very quick, yes, but will never be able to make that transition to the pros. The pick is garbage. Based on what? Maybin was a 230lbs DE. Lee is a LB in the mold of Bobby Wagner, LaVonte David, and Malcom Lee. And that's the position he's going to be playing in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 49 minutes ago, Mainejet said: Simply said, Mac picked another Aaron Maybin. A guy that is very quick, yes, but will never be able to make that transition to the pros. The pick is garbage. Lee will play an entirely different position than Maybin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 10 hours ago, The Troll said: It doesn't matter how fast you are if you can't get off a block. I trust the coaches will use him accordingly, but he is not a prototype 3-4 ILB. I don't think the game has changed in that regard. Offensive linemen aren't getting smaller and weaker. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Patrick Willis 6'1 240 Navorro bowman 6'0 240 Oh but Lee is a shrimp, SOJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Mainejet said: Simply said, Mac picked another Aaron Maybin. A guy that is very quick, yes, but will never be able to make that transition to the pros. The pick is garbage. Maybin was taller, and had more production in college. Just because one failed doesn't mean the other will too though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 4 hours ago, Shockwave said: What really sucks is Myles Jack is the exact player we wanted and envisioned with speed and ability to cover at LB. Im really surprised we didn't consider him. His knee condition must be absolutely terrible. Ya. If he's down to 225 that means he's lost 20lbs of cartilage since the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjets782 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 4 hours ago, Shockwave said: What really sucks is Myles Jack is the exact player we wanted and envisioned with speed and ability to cover at LB. Im really surprised we didn't consider him. His knee condition must be absolutely terrible. Any time you hear the word degenerative... be afraid!! That's why CC Sabathia's knees are about 108 while the rest of him is 35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 3 hours ago, detectivekimble said: Based on what? Maybin was a 230lbs DE. Lee is a LB in the mold of Bobby Wagner, LaVonte David, and Malcom Lee. And that's the position he's going to be playing in the NFL. Idk if people will ever discover that a 3-4 edge rusher is not the same position as a Will, which is not a Mike. I guess we should have tried Coples at Will before we let him go. Also Bowels 3-4 is not Rex' 3-4, which is not Mangini's 3-4 Those who remember Vilma failing remember Mangini's read and react straight up 2 gap. I can see this kid being like an extra player on the field compared to DD. I think we always have a free man or two between Lee, Pryor, and Skrine. They all have overlapping capabilities and can each drop and read the play or blitz at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Holy crap I forgot about Carter. This is a much better defense than last year...if they're keeping Mo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Dearest Jets Fans, Former Outside Linebacker Aaron Maybin didn't underperform in the NFL due to his lack of size. The reason is because HE SUCKED at the game of football. Sincerely, Sherlock Holmes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Jaylon Smith's playing weight, before the injury was 243. He lost 20 pounds because he wasn't able to work out his lower body. 223 was not his playing weight and it certainly wasn't 229. He'll regain that weight quickly. He's already beasting in the weight room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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