Bruce Harper Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 I think he has a chance to make the team as a returner with Kerley gone. Who knows, maybe he can work himself into some time at WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Love this pick up for the Jets, Jalin is still raw and will need practice running routes, getting separation, etc... but he has the talent to be great, this kid would have been the focal point on offense for the Buckeyes if he stayed one more year, easily a first or second pick the year after but he got caught up in the national championship bravado and needed to settle down, going undrafted should have fixed that I think Tyvis Powell has similar potential and would have been signed if Mac really had the inside track with Urban, Powell would have been great in Bowles D but Seattle picked him up, expect him to be a part of the legion in the next couple of years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Tinstar said: That's why you watch the game tape instead so you can see the prospects success and failures and judge for yourself . It's also a better idea to watch the prospect against better competition instead of the "weak sisters" they often play at the college level . Try a game the team lost . Nice thing about SEC/ Big Ten and ACC..... they play some of the best teams in the country 10x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 11 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Do you know the percentage of UDFA's who actually make the final NFL roster? Sure, there have been a few UDFA's who have gone on to have very good NFL careers, but the reality is the vast majority are nothing more than training camp fodder. There is a reason why they are UDFA's in the first place. That was basically the point I was making. Except that I was saying I'm still a sucker for this stuff despite knowing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said: That was basically the point I was making. Except that I was saying I'm still a sucker for this stuff despite knowing that. Unheralded players are easy to root for. That's why Wayne Chrebet was so popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Just now, sourceworx said: Unheralded players are easy to root for. That's why Wayne Chrebet was so popular. Excellent example. I wonder what the highest number of UDFAs plus 7th rounders to ever make the team was. This punter Hackett seems like he'll be on someone's roster (I would think ours unless Declan Edwards beats him out) next year. I could see Jalin Smith being a special teams guy plus 4th or 5th WR. Charone Peake seems like he might have a chance to catch on too. Maybe others as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colgateman Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Eh, I can see why you guys think Marshall may fail, but I don't think peake will. people rave about how hard this guy works and how determined he is, he fell because of injury concerns from two years ago. like a lot of people have said, I would not be surprised if he turned out to be like marques colston, tj housmanzada, or our Donald driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbt Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 very impressive (i know its highlights) but still. is fast and can take a hit and get tough yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 1 hour ago, bealeb319 said: 1) because they had a bunch of better Wrs who he sat behind. 2) because it is a highlight reel so it doesnt show you his bad plays? Thank you for clarifying? Devin Smith Jalen Saunders and Shaq Evans say hello! ☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Kleckineau said: Thank you for clarifying? Devin Smith Jalen Saunders and Shaq Evans say hello! ☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Jetster said: He reminds me of Lavereous Coles. Runs like a running back with a very strong base & balance when he cuts. You can tell he's not afraid of contact which I believe is Devin Smiths issue, other than not having a starting QB who actually throw to match his speed. Well we do have 3 QBs on our roster now with legit strong arms.... However it's possible that none of them will start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 1 hour ago, PatsFanTX said: Do you know the percentage of UDFA's who actually make the final NFL roster? Sure, there have been a few UDFA's who have gone on to have very good NFL careers, but the reality is the vast majority are nothing more than training camp fodder. There is a reason why they are UDFA's in the first place. A few? Really? Do you even watch or read about any other teams? Do you know what few means? Just off the top of my head for "your" team I come up with Viniteri and Welker. There's a few for just one team....I am sure they had more if I wanted to investigate. Sure there is a reason why they are UDFAs in the first place and part of it is the same reason 1st and 2nd rounders routinely fail. The draft is very inexact in case you havent noticed and there are nearly 500 undrafted players in the league. Malcom Butler just took you off his Christmas card list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 35 minutes ago, Kleckineau said: A few? Really? Do you even watch or read about any other teams? Do you know what few means? Just off the top of my head for "your" team I come up with Viniteri and Welker. There's a few for just one team....I am sure they had more if I wanted to investigate. Sure there is a reason why they are UDFAs in the first place and part of it is the same reason 1st and 2nd rounders routinely fail. The draft is very inexact in case you havent noticed and there are nearly 500 undrafted players in the league. Malcom Butler just took you off his Christmas card list. Bart Scott, James Harrison, Wayne Chrebet, Arian Foster & many, many more. Jalin Marshall left early & would most likely have been Ohio states go to guy had he stayed. UDFAs are a huge part of the offseason after the draft. It's a feeding frenzy once the 7th round ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 2 hours ago, bealeb319 said: I hate to be mr. negitivity but every player looks good on their highlight reel. Im not expecting him much but hopefully he surprises me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Jetster said: Bart Scott, James Harrison, Wayne Chrebet, Arian Foster & many, many more. Jalin Marshall left early & would most likely have been Ohio states go to guy had he stayed. UDFAs are a huge part of the offseason after the draft. It's a feeding frenzy once the 7th round ends. There are more UDFA's than 1st round picks in the NFL. But gridiron genius TX says only a few make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 4 hours ago, bealeb319 said: I couldn't see him beating out d.Smith or thompkins honestly but if he turns out to be a decent punt and kick returner we haven't had one of those since Joe mcknight Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk He might not have to beat out Devin Smith. There's an excellent chance Smith starts the season on 8 game IR, with no camp again this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, flgreen said: He might not have to beat out Devin Smith. There's an excellent chance Smith starts the season on 8 game IR, with no camp again this year So sad, he is like the offensive version of Dee Milliner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 There are more UDFA's than 1st round picks in the NFL. But gridiron genius TX says only a few make it. Please provide a list of UDFA's the Jets have signed over the last 10 years who have been major contributors or who have even made the final roster. Based on your comments, there must be a ton of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 17 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Please provide a list of UDFA's the Jets have signed over the last 10 years who have been major contributors or who have even made the final roster. Based on your comments, there must be a ton of them. Almost the entire Jet D is 1st round picks. Probably most of the offense is UDFA's (or should have been) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 26 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Please provide a list of UDFA's the Jets have signed over the last 10 years who have been major contributors or who have even made the final roster. Based on your comments, there must be a ton of them. some UDFA's in last 10 years: Brandon Moore Mike Devito James Ihedigbo Danny Woodhead Jeff Cumberland Damon Harrison Marcus Williams ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 9 minutes ago, nyjunc said: some UDFA's in last 10 years: Brandon Moore Mike Devito James Ihedigbo Danny Woodhead Jeff Cumberland Damon Harrison Marcus Williams ' Victor Green does not fall within the ten year requirement, but he still deserves a mention because Victor Green is the sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 16 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Victor Green does not fall within the ten year requirement, but he still deserves a mention because Victor Green is the sh*t. a few years after him Chrebet, we have had some good UDFAs through the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Him and Archer fighting for a roster spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Where is Jacoby Ford when you need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 some UDFA's in last 10 years: Brandon Moore Mike Devito James Ihedigbo Danny Woodhead Jeff Cumberland Damon Harrison Marcus Williams ' You are making my point. 10 UDFA's signed each year for 10 years = 100. 7 contributors out of 100 = 7% success rate. Look, there are absolutely some UDFA's that will turn out to be very good players. But to sit here in May and say "this UDFA is is a steal and will make the roster" is totally ludicrous. The odds are totally stacked against UDFA's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 7 hours ago, sourceworx said: My brother-in-law is a big time OSU fan (and alum). He absolutely loves this guy. Says a lot of people feel if he stayed one more year in Columbus to refine his skills a little more, he could have been a high pick in next year's draft. Fans were very disappointed that he left this year. He's a Percy Harvin type of RB/WR tweener. That's not a stretch at all or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Funny Mac got 3 receivers with similar or higher draft grades in the 7th and udfa than Idzick got in the 4th and 5th rounds with his 3 WR picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 3 hours ago, PatsFanTX said: Please provide a list of UDFA's the Jets have signed over the last 10 years who have been major contributors or who have even made the final roster. Based on your comments, there must be a ton of them. Read my post. I did not specify the Jets, I made a blanket statement for the NFL regarding UDFA. And there are tons of them. (literally) Last season on opening day there were 450 +/- UDFA's on the opening day rosters. Can you calculate the %? Still want to stand by your " Sure, there have been a few UDFA's who have gone on to have very good NFL careers " comment? You are aware that most of these players would have been drafted prior to the reduction to 7 rounds right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 So sad, he is like the offensive version of Dee Milliner This is milliners year he is going to be a solid contributor to our IR list. Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 I've got a pretty good idea this kid is going to make the team . One of the things Bowles loved about Kerley was his hands and that's why he trusted him out there as the punt returner . This kid has those kind of hands and better athleticism . He's probably got a better shot as a backup RB than at WR thou IMHO . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 22 hours ago, 32EBoozer said: Reminds me of Jarvis Landry. Tough! I can't believe he ran a 4.68 40. He plays a lot faster than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeJet22 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 2 hours ago, Tinstar said: I've got a pretty good idea this kid is going to make the team . One of the things Bowles loved about Kerley was his hands and that's why he trusted him out there as the punt returner . This kid has those kind of hands and better athleticism . He's probably got a better shot as a backup RB than at WR thou IMHO . I agree. We'll see what uni # he's assigned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 7 hours ago, JiF said: That's not a stretch at all or anything. I know being a UF grad means reading comprehension isn't exactly your thing, but what in my post is a stretch? His skill set is similar to Harvin's. They both played for the same coach in college, and had a similar role in that coach's offense. Don't worry, I never said Marshall was better than Migraine-Man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 IF speed is a part of the equation these 2 guys are miles apart in comparison . Also Harvin is a cream puff while Jalin thus far appears to be a tough guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 9 hours ago, sourceworx said: I know being a UF grad means reading comprehension isn't exactly your thing, but what in my post is a stretch? His skill set is similar to Harvin's. They both played for the same coach in college, and had a similar role in that coach's offense. Don't worry, I never said Marshall was better than Migraine-Man. If his skills were similar to Percy Harvin, would he be a UDFA? And he didnt play a similar role to Harvin. He had 2 rushing attempts on the entire season. Percy had 70 his senior year. Dont know why you got so salty...was just a bit of a stretch to compare him to Percy. Jeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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