Could Jalin Marshall Be the Jack-of-all-Trades the Jets Are Looking For?

[32EBoozer]

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JALIN MARSHALL    Athlete/H-Back/Tailback/Wide Receiver/Return Specialist  The Ohio State University Buckeyes      #7 (wore #17 in 2014)    5:10.4-207-4.60  Middletown, Ohio    Middletown High School

You see it every year in training camp – teams filled with non-descript youngsters that were bypassed in the draft, trying to catch even the slightest glimpse from a position coach during practices. They often share a locker stall, or try to find a few inches on the floor to store their gear safely, hoping that what they show during the summer weeks would earn them their own locker with a name tag come September.

When it comes to filling out a 53-man roster, most teams look for their rookies to have some ability to play in a variety of roles. For a skill position player, you look for someone who can not only perform at his assigned position, but to also be capable of filling a few spots for the special team units. For the “bigger guys,” you want them to be able to fill in at a variety of positions on the offensive or defensive front walls.

The New York Jets could be faced with a pleasant dilemma when they reduce their current 90-player roster down to the 53-man limit for the 2016 season opener. One of those that could force his way into the locker room is a neophyte Buckeye with limited experience at his collegiate position, but also one with a “bag of tricks” to be able to fill a variety of roles for the squad.

There is no need to look up the description for “athlete” in the dictionary – just turn on Ohio State game films to see a player who performed in the shadows of other teammates. No one would argue if you presented a case for Jalin Marshall to hold that title among Ohio State performers. He was a highly skilled high school quarterback, yet, when he joined the OSU program, he quickly realized that his opportunity for playing time would have to be found elsewhere, as he sat fourth on the QB depth chart.

Marshall was soon volunteering for punt and kickoff return duties. “Need me to play the slot coach?” the youngster would ask Urban Meyer. He would soon be earning playing time there. Need someone to handle the “wildcat?” Marshall was the man to step forward. When graduation took away the team’s deep threat (Devin Smith) after the 2014 national championship season, there was Marshall starting at split end in 2015. When Michael Thomas was banged up for a few games, Marshall was assigned flanker duties.

Toss in a little ball carrying duties to the tune of a 5.8-yard average, and you have the ingredients for a jack-of-all-trades. And, if a 12.73-yard average as a punt returner was not impressive enough, he also averaged 30.67 yards as a kickoff returner. When not returning kicks, he was covering them, recording a key fumble recovery in that capacity. He would touch the ball 156 times in a variety of roles during his Buckeyes career, averaging 12.21 yards per attempt.

When you look at Marshall’s “body of work” during his first full season with the varsity, you see a player that finished second on his team in receptions, third on the squad in touchdown catches and place ninth in the nation with a punt return average of 11.79 yards during the 2014 schedule. He was also one of five players in the country to score via a rushing attempt, reception and kick return last season. His 38 receptions in 2014 ranked second on the school season-record chart for freshman.

In addition to scoring five times as a receiver in 2015, Marshall had key catches during fifteen other touchdown drives and two possessions that resulted in field goals

 

 

Through twenty-seven games on offense during his career at Ohio State (appeared in 29 contests total), he caught 74-of-102 targeted passes (72.55%) for 976 yards (13.19 ypc) and eleven touchdowns. He recorded 55 first downs (74.32%) with 36 of those snatches gaining at least ten yards (48.65%), including eighteen receptions for twenty yards or longer (24.32%).

The H-Back/spilt end/flanker also converted 17-of-28 third-down throws (60.71%) and was successful converting the only fourth-down pass that was targeted to him. He has produced twenty-eight of his receptions inside the red zone (37.84%), with seven coming on goal-line plays. As a punt returner, his long run backs have seen him score once and establish field position for thirteen other Ohio State touchdown drives. One of his three college kickoff returns was followed by an OSU field goal, and on another, he gave OSU an established field position to march for another touchdown.

Marshall registered eleven touchdown grabs, but also had crucial catches that set up thirty-four touchdown drives and during three possessions that led to field goals. Among the twenty-eight passes targeted to him that he did not catch, eleven were underthrown (five were picked off by the opposition), seven were over-thrown (three interceptions among them), eight were deflected away by his coverage opponent and just two were dropped. He also set up nine touchdown drives and two field goals while scoring once as a ball carrier on just 26 attempts.

What makes his performance even more impressive was that he was never a wide receiver before suiting up for Ohio State in 2014. The previous regime under Jim Tressel had planed to use him as a possible quarterback, but then decided to experiment with him in the backfield as a ball carrier before the current staff decided his speed and big play ability could withstand him being utilized in a variety of roles. To date, Marshall has touched the ball a total of 156 times.

As a ball carrier, whether operating from the wildcat formation or as a tailback, Marshall averaged 6.48 yards per carry during his Ohio State career

 

 

Coming out of Middletown High School, the Ohio native was rated the best athlete in the country by nearly every recruiting service. He had boasted just five receptions during his four seasons with the Middies football team. During the course of 45 games, he led the team to its first Greater Miami Conference title in more than 20 years. In each of his three seasons as a starter, he led the team with 1,000-plus yards rushing campaigns.

Marshall finished his career with 6,999 yards in total offense, as he hit on 149-of-348 passes (42.82%) for 2,240 yards, 29 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. He generated 4,759 yards on 601 attempts (7.92 ypc) that included 52 touchdowns. He registered 4,929 all-purpose yards, as he also scored twice on five receptions for 116 yards (23.2 ypc).

On special teams, he returned five punts for 54 yards (10.8 avg) while also recording six solo tackles. Ironically, the prep quarterback had a “bit of preparation” for his future college position. He would close out his high school football career by playing as a receiver in the 2013 Under Armour All-America game, where he had a 44-yard reception.

Marshall also lettered in basketball for Middletown High. During the 2010-11 season, he helped the Middies compile a 19-5 record, as he scored 134 points, connecting on 55-of-145 field goals (37.9%) that included 3-of-23 from three-point range, adding 21-of-41 free throws (51.2%) to finish with an average of 6.7 points per game.

In 2011-12, the Middies recorded a 19-6-1 mark to rank third in the state. He connected on 66-of-186 field goals (35.5%), 2-of-23 treys and 37-of-79 free throws (46.8%) for a total of 171 points, averaging 8.6 per game. He added 37 assists (1.9 apg) and 74 rebounds (3.7 rpg), including 44 from the defensive boards.

The multi-sports star was also a member of Middletown’s track team, competing in the high jump, long jump and 400-meters for the Middies…At the 2013 Ohio High School Athletic Association Division I State Meet, Marshall recorded a 6’-08” high jump to finish second in the event. He also placed sixth in the long jump at 22’-09.5” as a senior at that outdoor event.

As a junior, Marshall won the OHSAA long jump title at the Division I Outdoor State Meet with a jump of 23’-0 ¾”. He had previously recorded a long jump-best of 22’-06” to finish fourth at the Dayton Division I Outdoor Regional, where he had won the high jump event (6’-08”). He also placed fourth in the long jump (6’-06”) at the OHSAA State Meet in 2011. In the classroom, he attained a cumulative 3.6 grade point average.

While in high school, Marshall did miss some time after he suffered a concussion. Injuries would limit him to just two brief appearances at Ohio State in 2013, allowing him to retain freshman status entering the 2014 schedule. A knee injury during spring camp slowed down his quest for a starting job and his red-shirt freshman season was sort of a struggle to attain a role. That is, until the final six games during the team’s national championship march.

Through his first nine appearances in 2014, Marshall caught 14-of-20 passes targeted to him, good for 157 yards, an average of 17.44 yards per game. He had just two scoring grabs and saw other OSU players pull in 184 other passes during those contests. He did show flashes among those limited opportunities, as eleven of those fourteen catches went for first downs and five converted third-down throws. He also helped set up eight of the team’s first 52 offensive touchdowns.

Then, the OSU quarterbacks became “best buddies” with the red-shirt freshman. He caught 24-of-30 passes targeted to him (80.0%) during the course of the team’s final six appearances – the Buckeyes completed just 53 passes during those six games. After averaging 17.44 yards through his first nine contests, but amped that average to 57.0 yards per game for his last six clashes.

After catching just 7.07% of the team’s receptions through nine games, he hauled in 45.28% of those in the last six. He had accounted for only 5.59% of the team’s aerial yards in the first nine games, but improved to 50.44% in the final six. Four of the eight touch-downs recorded by OSU receivers in the last six games were recorded by Marshall.

In fact, coming off a two-turnover/fumble performance vs. Minnesota in 2014, Marshall more than accounted for himself the next week, scoring on one punt return and three receptions during the second half vs. Illinois. His three scoring grabs set the school freshman game-record and rank tied for fourth overall.

In that 2014 Indiana contest, Marshall's 54-yard punt return for a touchdown was the first for a Buckeye since Corey Brown returned a punt 68 yards for a he score at Wisconsin in 2012. It was the first punt return for a touchdown by an Ohio State freshman since Ted Ginn Jr. in 2004. His four total touchdowns also set another school freshman record.

On the overall record chart, only three players accounted for more total touchdowns in a game, with Pete Johnson scoring five times vs. North Carolina in 1975, followed by five touchdowns by Keith Byars vs. Illinois in 1984 and more recently by Carlos Hyde at Illinois in 2013. He would finish the season with 983 all-purpose yards, with a total of 502 yards coming during the course of his last six 2014 games.

With the team struggling at quarterback throughout the 2015 season and with Marshall missing the season opener, he did not receive the opportunities that many experts expected, but he still finished second on the team after catching 36-of-49 targeted balls, piling up 477 yards with five touchdowns as a receiver. He also ranked 12th in the nation and second in the Big Ten Conference with an average of 12.73 yards via 27 punt returns.

Marshall has the quickness to separate underneath and the toughness and ball skills to do the dirty work over the middle. He is also perhaps the best overall punt return man that Ohio State has had since the Ted Ginn Jr. era (2004-06). He is the type of player that does a great job of anticipating needs and filling them before they become a problem and his ability playing the “wildcat” is a great example.

Usually operating in a crowd due to his team's constant poor quarterbacking performances, Marshall still managed to convert 29-of-36 catches into first downs last season

 

 

JANUARY FEATURE - THE 2016 DRAFT’S WIDE RECEIVER SLEEPERS: IN COMPARISON

This link features a detailed statistical comparison of five unknown receivers who were making “noise” in the scouting circles prior to the 2016 NFL Scouting Combine. Each of the five athletes - Notre Dame’s Chris Brown, Arizona’s Cayleb Jones, Ohio State Jalin Marshall, Southeast Missouri’s Paul McRoberts and Cincinnati’s Chris Moore are then examined in an in-depth scouting analysis.

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THE NEW YORK JETS/OHIO STATE DRAFT HISTORY

The Jets used the 20th selection in the 2016 draft to snatch weak-side outside linebacker Darron Lee from The Ohio State university program. It marked the fourteenth time that a Buckeye player heard his name called by the Jets since the organization began playing football. The first OSU player drafted by the then New York Titans was fullback Tom Matte, a fifth round pick in 1961. Matte would go on to play for the Baltimore Colts instead, rushing for 4,486 yards and 45 touchdowns while catching 249 passes from Johnny Unitas and Earl Morrall. When both quarterbacks were injured, he also filled in at quarterback.

In 1964, the Jets drafted Matt Snell with the third overall pick in the American Football League Draft. He rushed 1,057 times for 4,285 yards and 24 touchdowns. Playing in the backfield with Emerson Boozer and Joe Namath, he also caught 193 passes through nine seasons. Five years later, New York used the 26th pick in Round One of the 1969 draft to take left tackle Dave Foley, who would go on to start 90-of-110 games until packing it in after the 1977 schedule.

From 1969 to 1977, the Jets grabbed three other Buckeyes, but none ever suited up for an NFL game. In 1978, they again went the first round route for offensive line help, naming Chris Ward as their selection with the fourth overall choice. Until he quit in 1984, Ward started 95-of-100 NFL contests. In 2005, the Jets made Mike Nugent the second-highest placekicker to ever be taken in the draft, using the 47th pick (round two) for a player who has appeared in 140 games, to date.

2006 third round linebacker Anthony Schlegel appeared in seventeen games through two seasons, joining fellow Buckeye, center Nick Mangold, in joining the Jets that year. Mangold, the 29th pick in the first round, has been the offensive line’s anchor ever since. The only Buckeyes first round choice by the New York Jets to be an instant “flameout” was Rex Ryan’s disaster – Vernon Gholston, the sixth overall selection in 2008. He started just five of the 45 games he played in during three seasons in the league and never did what he was hired for – sack the quarterback.

The jury is still out on 2015 second round selection, receiver Devin Smith. One of college’s greatest big-play pass catchers, the 37th pick in the draft was hampered throughout his rookie season by injuries, but the team fully expects the former Buckeye to contribute heaviliy in their multiple receiver formation in 2016.

MARSHALL SCOUTING ANALYSIS

Body Structure…Marshall has well-built frame with room to add more bulk without it affecting his excellent quickness. He displays a tight waist, defined legs (thighs, calves and ankles), developed abdomen, good bubble and high cut legs with well-developed hamstrings. He possesses good width in his shoulders and chest and low body fat. He has a well-defined upper body with good chest thickness, arm length, natural hands, thick thighs, tapered calves and minimal body fat. He has a good bubble and explosive timed speed after the catch.

Athletic Ability…Marshall has good overall muscle development and appears to have more than enough strength to defeat the jam. He demonstrates an explosive burst coming off the snap and the loose hips to make defenders miss when weaving through traffic (see 2014 Rutgers, Indiana and Alabama games). He shows that second gear to turn a slant pass into a long gainer and with his playing speed and burst, he can proudly proclaim that he has been tackled from behind only once during his career. He is much more than just a receiver, as he has the lower body power to handle the rushing load and break tackles working through the pile. He also displays the vision and patience to follow his blockers and then turn on the after-burners to beat the defense down the sidelines, whether as a receiver, rusher or return specialist. He has outstanding hip snap and agility to elude in attempts to gain big yardage after the catch. He makes smooth body adjustments and possesses solid hands and extension to catch away from his frame. He has excellent balance, speed and change-of-direction agility. He shows the second level speed and explosiveness with a fluid natural running motion to run past most defenders in isolated coverage. He maintains his acceleration, even when changing direction and is very flexible, looking natural when extending for the ball in a crowd. He has that second gear needed to burst past defenders after the catch. He demonstrates above average quickness and uses his hands effectively to avoid the jam. He is very quick breaking out of routes and shows a good burst in and out of his patterns. He generates very good explosion to transition and separate on deep routes. He also has excellent flexibility, getting his head turned around instantly to track the ball in flight (see 2015 Western Michigan and 2014 Indiana and Minnesota games).

Release…Marshall simply explodes out of his stance and past a lethargic defender to instantly get into his patterns (see 2014 Minnesota and Indiana; 2015 Western Michigan games). One noticeable improvement that he made over the course of the 2014 season was showing that he can be just as smooth as sudden in his release, which will generally fool the defender and get the man covering him to come out of the backpedal too early. That ability saw him grab half of the team’s receptions through the squad’s final six contests after pulling down just seven percent through the first nine appearances. He has the ability to elude the press with his quickness and footwork. He is much more active using his hands to prevent from getting held up when the physical cornerback attempts to stab him initially than any other youngster with his limited experience at the receiver positions. He has that natural second gear to gobble up the cushion and get behind the cornerbacks on deep routes (see 2015 Western Michigan and 2014 Indiana games). He does a nice job of sinking pads and it is hard to mirror him once he gets past his opponent. He also generates decent hand usage to beat the press. He shows outstanding foot quickness and hip shake with suddenness when trying to change direction (very good at freezing defenders at the line of scrimmage). The thing you notice mostly on film is his exceptional acceleration to get up field once he creates the lane. Unlike most speedsters, he does not dance too much at the line and that allows him to show outstanding quickness in his release, with the shiftiness and avoidance ability at the line of scrimmage to defeat the press. Even though he is still developing route running skills, he does a good job of pushing off the defender and quickly eludes with his swim move. Marshall has the strength to power through the “chuck”, showing above average hand and arm usage on his release. He will deliver proper swim moves to avoid the jam and does a very nice job of pushing the defensive backs and closing the cushion vs. off coverage. When defenders try to impede his release, he generates the power to break free quickly. His long arms allow him to push off cleanly to immediately get into his patterns.

Acceleration…Marshall shows excellent burst and explosion in his RAC, as he has the feet and loose hips to change direction without needing to gather or throttle down. He runs very crisp routes and has more than enough quickness, spin and swim movement to escape from tight man coverage (see 2014 Kent State, Maryland and Indiana games). His burst has that “catch me if you can” label for defenders to view as he races by (see 2014 Indiana and 2015 Western Michigan games) Once he gets a clean release and into the second level, it is nearly impossible to slow him down. He has great body control and adjustment skills to maintain stride and speed running through tight quarters. He might not look like he has size to run through traffic, but with his strength and burst, he easily creates separation to turn the slants and fades into big gainers. He is reliable catching the ball (secured 76% of passes targeted to him in 2014, including 80% combined during his final six contests). His speed is more evident on deep patterns, where he consistently gets behind the defender. He has good leaping ability, and even though he lacks ideal height, he greatly improved his timing. If a defender hesitates, Marshall can change gears and beat his man, gaining 63.44% of his yardage after the catch during the 2014 schedule and early part of the 2015 season. He is quick to uncover and even quicker to separate on short patterns. He shows exceptional ability to get open deep, displaying that superb speed needed to take the ball to the house. Accelerating in an instant is one of his best assets. While used on under-neath routes, he shows the explosion and change of direction agility to settle into the soft spot of the zone on short throws. He has a knack for uncovering in time for the quarter-back to deliver the ball and is very effective at finding the seam and making body adjustments to get to the ball thrown into a crowd. He just has a very good feel for the open areas, as he is very consistent slipping into vacant spots, offering a big target over the middle. On deep routes, he does a very good job of maintaining eye contact to track the ball and he keeps his concentration on the job at hand, even when defenders try to reroute him with jarring shots.

Route Running…This is still an area that Marshall needs to refine, but with every passing game, you notice the marked improvement. Understand, prior to Ohio State, his only playing time as a receiver came on five trick plays in high school and in a state all-star game. Even through three games this season, you can see that this is probably Marshall’s most improved area. He used to round his cuts at times and drift in and out on long patterns, but has shown vast improvement, running precise routes with good suddenness. He has a nice array of head fakes and double moves to con and sell the defender, proving to be especially slippery on slants, as he drops his weight well and gets back to the ball with little-to-no wasted motion. If you need a receiver to fly off the line, especially on posts, this is where he excels. He has the ability to make things happen on comeback routes, showing good urgency working back when the quarterback is flushed. He displays excellent quickness and foot speed in and out of his breaks. When he plays at a low pad level, he gets into his routes immediately. He shows good set up and body control and knows how to use his hands to prevent the defender from attacking him and trying to reroute him with a strong push.

2015 Cross Check Scouting…This is what Marshall does best – run crisp routes while showing the lateral agility and balance to elude after the catch (see 2015 Western Michigan, Indiana and Minnesota games0. He is sharp in his cuts and does a nice job of sinking his weight and opening his hips to get under most balls thrown to him in the short-to-intermediate areas. He shows loose hips in his patterns and the body control to separate after executing sharp cuts. He maintains eye contact with the backfield to work back for the ball and is very effective locating and settling into the zone’s soft areas. He is showing a good ability to sell his fakes and even though he is used mostly as a zone route runner, he works hard in his patterns and is quick to find the open area. He has the ability to stick and define his cuts and shows decent acceleration in the open. When he generates those sharp cuts, he can get in position to make the catch.

Separation Ability…Marshall has really developed his escape skills since midway through the 2014 season (caught 24-of-53 passes that were completed by OSU passers during the last six games of 2014). More out of necessity, as the team did not have a quarterback with the consistency to stretch the defense, he has constantly had to work back towards the ball and make route adjustments to compensate for poor quarterback play in 2015. He has that explosive burst to get vertical and will simply blow past defenders, in addition to showing the vision to find the void and settle. There is no doubt that he will be able to gain separation vs. NFL cornerbacks. He has shown very good ability when sinking his hips and exploding out of his breaks, as it is rare to ever see him struggle to separate when he comes off the snap. He is better served as a split end than as an H-Back, but has experience at flanker, slot receiver, and in the wildcat package. He excels at taking slants and crossers for big yardage rather than lining out wide. He is very effective when it comes to setting up defenders, as he displays good head and shoulder fakes, relying on his burst and second gear to elude. He has that speed and burst allows him to consistently get past defenders. He is very quick out of his breaks, especially when trying to pull and separate with vertical routes and short runs, and has done a nice job of being more conscious of playing with a low pad level. His vertical quickness lets him separate almost immediately (see 2014 Minnesota and Indiana; 2015 Western Michigan games). He stays in stride while generating good explosion and change of direction agility when working horizontally across the field. He can get open quickly with his speed, but also demonstrates the moves and technique to transition and break down. He consistently turns the defender on a route and does a very good job of selling that move. When left in one-on-one situations, he has the explosive gear needed to run away from the defender.

2015 Cross Check Scouting…Marshall is a deceptive route runner who does a nice job of conning and setting up his moves. He is very sharp making his cuts and is keen alert to activity in the backfield to come back for the poorly thrown ball. He reads the defensive back’s moves well and shows great anticipation ability, knowing when to come in or out on his breaks. He is most effective on comeback routes, where his speed is a benefit. He has the second gear explosion to go vertical and good quickness in his stride when working horizontally. He also demonstrates the hand placement and loose hips to push off the defender and get valid yardage after the catch.

Hands…Marshall is a natural hands catcher with great ability to look the ball in. His long arms and extension ability let him get to the overthrown passes. He can see the ball, whether it is low, behind or over his shoulder. In watching 2014-15 game films, I saw only two dropped passes (2015 vs. Hawaii and Indiana). He is very capable of tracking the ball and catching it with his hands extended. He does a nice job of catching every ball thrown his way. He has the soft, natural hands, along with the ability to snatch high and away from his frame. He displays above average ball security skills to excel as a receiver, on the reverse and when returning kicks. He looks natural getting elevation and extension to catch outside his frame and if he drops a pass, it is usually the result of momentarily losing focus. He has soft, natural hands, extending well to catch away from the body’s framework. He is not the type that will revert to body catching, as he is a soft hands catcher who just needs to learn how to time his leaps properly to get to the pass at its highest point.

Run After the Catch…Marshall is an exciting and electrifying open field runner. He is an elusive shaker with excellent change of direction skills, sort of like a water bug the way he can slip, slide and elude on the move. He not only shows good quickness working in the short area, but great toughness, as well. He has outstanding skill set in terms of speed, quickness, agility and change of direction. He is tough to bring down in isolated coverage and does a nice job of sidestepping low tackles. When he is out in front, he will generally win most foot races (never caught from behind in college). More than 40% of his career yardage has come after the catch. If given a free lane, he will generally gain huge additional yardage (see 2014 Indiana and 2015 Western Michigan games). He relies more on shiftiness and fakes to set up the defender, but he also has the leg strength to break arm tackles.

2015 Cross Check Scouting…Because of the team’s quarterback issues, Marshall is not getting a lot of receiving opportunities in 2015, but whether being double teamed or in isolated coverage, he has had very good success picking up additional real estate (see 2015 Western Michigan, Indiana and Minnesota games). He is an exciting and electrifying open field runner. He shows outstanding skill set in terms of speed, quickness, agility and change of direction. He is tough to bring down in isolated coverage and does a nice job of sidestepping low tackles. When he is out in front, he will generally win most foot races (only saw him caught from behind once in 2005; vs. Minnesota).

Special Teams Return Specialist Skills…Marshall has NFL caliber hands, feet and vision, along with the patience to let his blocks develop on punt returns. He is a shifty runner with the stop-&-go action to set up and slip past defenders. He catches the ball with good confidence and with his speed and quickness, the possibility of him becoming an elite returner at the next level is evident. He shows outstanding elusiveness and vision in the open and runs with toughness and speed to take kicks back the entire distance (see 2014 Indiana, Kent State and Rutgers; 2015 Hawaii games).

 

[JetBlue]

How the hell did this guy go undrafted?  Gotta say I am impressed...

[joewilly12]

Just now, JetBlue said:

How the hell did this guy go undrafted?  Gotta say I am impressed...

Under the radar it seems. 

[Jetster]

Has a lot of Laverneous Coles traits. Probably be better than Devin Smith.

[Savage69]

2 minutes ago, Jetster said:

Has a lot of Laverneous Coles traits. Probably be better than Devin Smith.

Maybe more like the Pats Edelman who was a college QB at Kent St..

[Jetster]

2 minutes ago, Savage69 said:

Maybe more like the Pats Edelman who was a college QB at Kent St..

That's true. He's much stronger than Edelman at this point. Edelman really took to the NFL training, you could see him develop more strength each year.

[roscoeword]

....or like a Jeremy Kerley, transformed qb who was a jack of all trades and master of none.

[JetBlue]

3 hours ago, roscoeword said:

....or like a Jeremy Kerley, transformed qb who was a jack of all trades and master of none.

Looks like a better all around athlete than Kerley. This guy is already 1000x the punt returner Kerley is so he has at least mastered that so far. 

[Greenseed4]

Dri Archer is going to Tanya Harding this kid. 

[32EBoozer]

17 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said:

Dri Archer is going to Tanya Harding this kid. 

I can only remember 2 or 3 plays that Archer has made, and that was with Pitt. on a couple of returns.

I'll take the "football player" over the "gadget guy" any day. Marshall and Peake can go get the ball.

[Adoni Beast]

I have NO idea how he remained undrafted coming out of Ohio State. You get a guy like this for special teams who can contribute for certain plays ans offensive packages, this is a quality depth pick up. 

Now, I don't know if he's going to be clutch or garbage, but we lacked players akin to this, which cost us a few games last year.

[Augustiniak]

2 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said:

I have NO idea how he remained undrafted coming out of Ohio State. You get a guy like this for special teams who can contribute for certain plays ans offensive packages, this is a quality depth pick up. 

Now, I don't know if he's going to be clutch or garbage, but we lacked players akin to this, which cost us a few games last year.

just based on the highlights, he and peake offer more versatility than devin smith.  gailey definitely has weapons this year.

[Adoni Beast]

6 hours ago, Jetster said:

Has a lot of Laverneous Coles traits. Probably be better than Devin Smith.

I can't argue with anyones lack of faith in Devin Smith. But I remain optimistic. I'm not for excuses, but after the punctured lung, I felt he just tried to rush back without being able to learn first and was lost.

When things are overwhelming a player will fall back on his bread and butter: devin smith burning cb's and going deep. Unfortunately, his bread and butter was being served by a dull knife, Fitz couldn't connect. Devin's role was undefined, then the ACL injury. 

I don't know what to expect out of him, but if Calvin Pryor taught ME anything it was, shut the hell up and don't go off a rookie season. 

We absolutely need Devin Smith to develop into a quality starter to give this offense a dimension that can hinder teams playing cover 2 on Marshall and Decker.

[Adoni Beast]

2 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

just based on the highlights, he and peake offer more versatility than devin smith.  gailey definitely has weapons this year.

I hope you're right man. We need guys who can step up and make plays on offense. I was pleasantly surprised with Enuwa last year as a guy making big plays. But these guys have speed which is what we need.

[Tinstar]

1 hour ago, Greenseed4 said:

Dri Archer is going to Tanya Harding this kid. 

that kid falls down when a blade of grass hits him.  He gets a look because of his speed, but he's not taking a spot from a real football player .

[Greenseed4]

5 minutes ago, Tinstar said:

that kid falls down when a blade of grass hits him.  He gets a look because of his speed, but he's not taking a spot from a real football player .

Tanya Harding was a verb. Meaning inflict injury to get playing time. 

[Tinstar]

Just now, Greenseed4 said:

Tanya Harding was a verb. Meaning inflict injury to get playing time. 

very good but I was making a reference about Dri Archer

[Tinstar]

Looks like Archer won't get the chance to injure anyone on the Jets this camp because he's been cut and replaced by a TE from the Giants roster last season .

[JetBlue]

12 hours ago, Jetster said:

Has a lot of Laverneous Coles traits. Probably be better than Devin Smith.

Give the kid a chance.  I still believe in his ability; he just needs to stay healthy.  

[JetBlue]

4 hours ago, Tinstar said:

Looks like Archer won't get the chance to injure anyone on the Jets this camp because he's been cut and replaced by a TE from the Giants roster last season .

That was fast; just shows you have impressed they are with Marshall.  Still can't believe this guy went undrafted...

[TuscanyTile2]

Jalin of all trades

[Il Mostro]

Considering his size, Marshall's strength is impressive.  I hope this kid makes it.

[JETSfaninNE]

23 hours ago, Greenseed4 said:

Dri Archer is going to Tanya Harding this kid. 

Dri Archer has been released FYI

[Greenseed4]

1 minute ago, JETSfaninNE said:

Dri Archer has been released FYI

Yeah, literally minutes after my post. McCaggnan clearly reads this board, and agrees with me on damn near everything, so the cut was inevitable. To save Jalins knee cap. 

[Scoop24]

Devin smith had injury riddled rookie year . Now a slow un drafted free agent is better than him . Jets fans have zero patience when it comes so this doesn't even surprise me .. Unless Peake or Anderson goes down in camp Marshall won't make this team ..

[faba]

Well I am not going to get that excited yet over someone not drafted- the odds are against him

[JETSfaninNE]

3 hours ago, Scoop24 said:

Devin smith had injury riddled rookie year . Now a slow un drafted free agent is better than him . Jets fans have zero patience when it comes so this doesn't even surprise me .. Unless Peake or Anderson goes down in camp Marshall won't make this team ..

Hard to have patience with a player who will have 0 impact in the first 2 years on the job.  I'm not hating on DSmith, I actually still hope he turns into a solid football player but to be honest he's had 2 major injuries in his rookie season, the 1st putting him out for the entire training camp setting back his development for half a season and the 2nd at the end of the season where he again will most likely miss all of training camp and possibly start the season on the partial pup.  Hard to be patient when we've been through this before with Milliner.

[Gas2No99]

New York Jets Off the Clock: Undrafted Wide Receiver Jalin Marshall, Ohio State

21 May 2016 04:46 PM EST 

-by Daniel Mogollon, Staff Writer; Image: Ohio State wide receiver Jalin Marshall scored as a receiver, rusher and returner as a Buckeye. (Image Source: Andy Lyons/Getty Images)

Having already broken down the New York Jets seven picks in the 2016 NFL Draft (see links below), we’ll shift to some of their more prominent undrafted free agent signings:

Undrafted Free Agent: WR Jalin Marshall, Ohio State

Measurables: Small (5’10”/200 pounds) and not very fast (4.60) it’s easy to see why Jalin Marshallwent undrafted after declaring early. However, it would be a mistake to look at those two measurables and call it a day. Maybe he’s not among the fastest wide outs when it comes to running in a straight line but he is when changing directions. Marshall’s 6.80 three-cone time was at the 74^th percentile and his short shuttle (4.13) was at the 72^nd percentile among wide receivers at the NFL Scouting Combine. His 37 ½” vertical jump and 10’5” broad jump were also very impressive. In addition, Marshall is blessed with above average hand size (9 5/8”).

Skill Set: Extremely quick, Marshall plays faster than his 40-time, which resulted in numerous highlight-reel type plays during his time in Columbus. He’s dynamic with the ball in his hands, very elusive in the open field, which makes him a weapon on shorter routes, as well as on punt returns. Marshall returned a punt for a touchdown as a freshman, he averaged a very good 13.5 yards per punt return this past season, and he carried the ball as a rusher 25 times in 2014 (5.8 YPC, TD).

Value: Inconsistent production at Ohio State, coupled with his lack of size and speed were the reasons why Marshall went undrafted and probably should have stayed at Ohio State for at least one more season (he declared following his redshirt sophomore season). In fairness to Marshall, only Hall of Famer Cris Carter had more receptions than Marshall’s 38 as a freshman and the OSU passing attack was a mess in 2015. I believe Marshall had a fifth-round grade going into the draft, so he was arguably the most talented player who went undrafted.

Need: As we wrote when breaking down seventh-round pick Charone Peake there’s some grey area here. Veterans Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker had arguably the best season of any Jets duo in franchise history. But the production behind them was lacking. Quincy Enunwa (23 years old), Devin Smith (24) and Kenbrell Thompkins (27) are talented backups who have yet to fulfill their potential. It’s not a pressing need but the Jets could use more production behind Marshall and Decker, whether that be improvement by the guys coming back or an infusion of new blood.

The Fit: With Jeremy Kerley in Detroit, the Jets lack a true after-the-catch slot receiver, as well as a return specialist, so maybe Marshall could fill a need on New York’s offense and special teams, a need that may have been understated.

2016 Outlook & Beyond: It appears Marshall has a pretty clear path to a roster spot in comparison to most undrafted free agents. Beat out free agent Jeremy Ross, who has caught just 39 paces in his four-year career and was brought in because of his ability to return kicks and punts. As a rookie, special teams is where Marshall can make the biggest impact, as he gets coached up and can eventually develop into a productive No. 3 wide out. A former high school quarterback, he’s still learning to play other positions and his best football might still be in front of him.

Daniel Mogollon is a member of the Pro Football Writers of America and the Football Writers Association of America

[JetBlue]

On 5/10/2016 at 3:16 PM, Scoop24 said:

Devin smith had injury riddled rookie year . Now a slow un drafted free agent is better than him . Jets fans have zero patience when it comes so this doesn't even surprise me .. Unless Peake or Anderson goes down in camp Marshall won't make this team ..

I agree about the lack of patience of many Jet fans but diagree about Jalin Marshall.  He plays a lot faster then he timed (I think he was recovering from some injury at the time).  All you have to do is look at the film.  He would be a true all purpose threat and I would not be shocked if he beat out Jeremy Ross.  In fact I think Peake and Marshall make the team and Anderson makes the PS. 

[JetBlue]

On 5/10/2016 at 6:35 PM, JETSfaninNE said:

Hard to have patience with a player who will have 0 impact in the first 2 years on the job.  I'm not hating on DSmith, I actually still hope he turns into a solid football player but to be honest he's had 2 major injuries in his rookie season, the 1st putting him out for the entire training camp setting back his development for half a season and the 2nd at the end of the season where he again will most likely miss all of training camp and possibly start the season on the partial pup.  Hard to be patient when we've been through this before with Milliner.

Sorry but that makes no sense. First of all he is just going into his second year; You act like he has already played 2 years.  Granted we don't if or when he will be ready to take the field but it could be sooner than we think.  Secondly, it is hard to have an impact when you suffered a ruptured lung or whatever he had, then miss all of training camp and preseason.  He was already a bit raw coming in and with no training camp he really struggled early.  Add to the fact that Fitz just did not have the arm strength to truly take advantage and it adds up to limited production.  Just as he was starting to get comfortable in the short passing game, he got hurt again.   If this team is ever going to make it back to a Superbowl and God for bid, actually WIN one, we need to DEVELOP  draft picks and STOP giving up on a player if they don't product right away.

[JETSfaninNE]

16 minutes ago, JetBlue said:

Sorry but that makes no sense. First of all he is just going into his second year; You act like he has already played 2 years.  Granted we don't if or when he will be ready to take the field but it could be sooner than we think.  Secondly, it is hard to have an impact when you suffered a ruptured lung or whatever he had, then miss all of training camp and preseason.  He was already a bit raw coming in and with no training camp he really struggled early.  Add to the fact that Fitz just did not have the arm strength to truly take advantage and it adds up to limited production.  Just as he was starting to get comfortable in the short passing game, he got hurt again.   If this team is ever going to make it back to a Superbowl and God for bid, actually WIN one, we need to DEVELOP  draft picks and STOP giving up on a player if they don't product right away.

I'm not disagreeing here, what you are outlining is exactly the concerns.  I can't get on him for the freak injuries I'm just talking about the fact that he has not had the ability to develop due to the seriousness of his injuries.  Look at Milliner as a perfect example, the Jets chose not to pick up his option year on his rookie contract.  Its not necessarily because he sucks (we really don't know), he hasn't had the ability to develop because of the seriousness of his injuries.  DSmith doesn't need to produce any type of pro bowl or elite type of numbers in his first couple years, what he does need is reps.  That is my complaint, I didn't say give up on him, I said its hard to be patient when you are already seeing signs of the same carousel we've been on with Milliner.  DSmith going by what we know right now, will not be able to participate in any OTAs or mandatory camps in June.  Right now we know he won't be ready for the start of Training Camp in July.  He could possibly be ready for late Training Camp/Preseason maybe but all signs right now put him on a long recovery road and with the new guys nipping at his heels, if any of them show flashes during the time DSmith misses, then it could just be a roster casualty he gets put on the partial PUP further negating developmental reps.  I think WR depth is going to be one of the most heated/contested battles in camp and will probably also have the hardest decisions to make with the 4-6 spots on the roster since 1-3 are pretty locked imo.

Still not sure what didn't make sense about my post lol, it was a post about its hard to have patience, not to not have patience.

[Gas2No99]

On May 10, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Scoop24 said:

Devin smith had injury riddled rookie year . Now a slow un drafted free agent is better than him . Jets fans have zero patience when it comes so this doesn't even surprise me .. Unless Peake or Anderson goes down in camp Marshall won't make this team ..

Marshall - by what I've read - seems to be Wayne Chrebet in a nutshell. 

More quick than fast, yet faster than anything we got now on the ST units. Every Jets writer always seems to notice Marshall and how he can fill the Jets' need for a legit return man that can scare opponents. I'm rooting for him to make the team, but there is reasonable depth and 3 draft picks invested in that unit these last three years which makes it hard to see how Marshall makes the cut. We won't carry 7 WRs on the final 53 man roster. 

How many WRs do we carry?

X- Marshall

Y- Decker

Slot - Quincy Enunwa

#4 - Devin Smith

#5 - Kenbrell Thompkins

#6 - Charone Peake

#7 - Marshalll 

[Mainejet]

You mean like Brad Smith used to be for us? Incredibly f*cking dumb decision on the part of the Jets to let Brad Smith go. I used to love watching that Seminole offense that he ran. The Jets have been missing that one player since Smith left via FA. Lets hope Marshall can be even half the player Smith was.