joewilly12 Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Took an above ground pool down a few years ago now the wife,college aged kids their friends neighbors all want to spit on my grave being that its been hotter than hell in N.J as of late. For those that have inground pools are they worth the overall investment. Wife wants to put something back like the one pictured in a salt water version. Keep cool everybody in the pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Do you like having people over? Are you staying in your house for at least 5+ more years? Can you afford an extra 150 a month for stuff that goes wrong/cleaning? If you can, it's awesome. I love having a pool. Memorial Day, labor day, 4th of July, random Sunday, great parties. If you are staying there long term, eventually the grand kids will be there. If you aren't staying, when you sell the house, you get back about 50% of the cost of the pool, so if you spend 40K, you add 20K in value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 $150 a month for what? Cost to run the filter? Chemicals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 If you do, go with the salt system instead of dumping chlorine into the thing constantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Pros: Swimming in pool. Peeing in pool. Marco Polo in pool. Cons: Maintaining pool for swimming. Swimming in pee. Playing stupid games when all you want is to be left alone to pee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no psls Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 25 minutes ago, no psls said: Is that you in your pool? Ewwwwww Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 2 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said: If you do, go with the salt system instead of dumping chlorine into the thing constantly. salt systems are kinda on the outs. You still need to shock the pool once a week, and they basically just separate the sodium from the chlorine, so they are actually dumping chlorine in the pool constantly. They tend to corrode the crap out of everything and adding the salt can be tricky for newbs they are a little better than the old dropping tabs in the chlorinator trick, but when the cells start to fade its break out the check book again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 there is a huge difference between salt water pool and chlorine salt generators btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 Salt water pools seems to be the new trend many say they are easier and cheaper to maintain. I would question the salt water effect on the filter and entire system. Going to be a long drawn out decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 14 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Salt water pools seems to be the new trend many say they are easier and cheaper to maintain. I would question the salt water effect on the filter and entire system. Going to be a long drawn out decision. salt water pools are like the ocean, high in salt content, but without the generator to make chlorine. They are typically used by people with severe skin conditions as therapy you mean salt generator system. Don't get it. its a simple decision. Get the off-line hayward chlorinator that has the feeder lines, not the "in-line" kind. Salt generators will corrode all the metal in the pool and your heater. it takes 2 minutes a week to drop a few tabs in it and adjust the output if needed they were the new trend 5 years ago, now people are seeing what living with them for 5 years means and it means more bills buy all of your chemicals at once to get a volume discount and shop around people try to cheap out on not shocking with generators and you get a build up of chloramines, and that is what hurts your eyes. You may even get a phosphate problem there is no better water sanitizer on gods green earth then sodium hypochorite. Every fancy system to come out, even ionizers, say right in the instructions, "shock weekly" just do it here's the thing most owners don't know about. Cyanuric acid. chlorine stabilizer. add it every year when you open, you will use a lot less chlorine but you still have to shock weekly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 Larz do you have a pool? You seem very knowledgeable and I appreciate your input and help. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 7 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Larz do you have a pool? You seem very knowledgeable and I appreciate your input and help. Thanks my parents had one, I took care of it, and I did it as a summer job way back when, I work on heaters for some of my customers and it always comes up in conversation. pool heaters around here last 8 years and everybody is always looking for ways to make them last. I was talking to a heater warranty rep in May and he told me they hate the generators so I looked into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 Just now, Larz said: my parents had one, and I did it as a summer job way back when, I work on heaters for some of my customers and it always comes up in conversation. pool heaters around here last 8 years and everybody is always looking for ways to make them last. I was talking to a heater warranty rep in May and he told me they hate the generators so I looked into it. No heater in the plans here i will rely on the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Larz do you have a pool? You seem very knowledgeable and I appreciate your input and help. No, he just made all that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 1 minute ago, PatsFanTX said: No, he just made all that up. Go away this doesn't concern you the closest thing you probably come to a pool is a piss puddle behind the adult video store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 go chlorine, people I know with salt systems have to run their filter 24/7, I run my filter 7 hours a day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Nothing like enjoying a nice e-cig at night by the pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 19 hours ago, joewilly12 said: $150 a month for what? Cost to run the filter? Chemicals? Electric, water, chemicals, something breaking once a year on the filter, filter replace. Some months less, once in a while more. Maybe a little less up there, then down here (I live in Texas) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 Met with a pool company tonight I'm ruling a salt water pool out at this current time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: Met with a pool company tonight I'm ruling a salt water pool out at this current time. Pros and cons, but salt water are on their way out. I have one, it's fine, but if I had it to do over again, I don't know that I would have gone that route. But the pool in general, as long as you are going to be in that house for a while, it's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I had a great pool when i first move to fl. Pre divorce.......you get the idea. Anyways despite the warning i found the pool to bean absolute pleasure in every way. Even cleaning was fun. Blasted out the tunes, smoke a fatty, waded theough and cleaned up.I loved It. Get a pool. Salt water pools are good. Its just a small salt content not like the sea. Pool parts are generally cheap plasticy things. Go for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 A pump costs 300 bucks. A filter system isaybe the same if you are handy you can cut the pvc and reintall a new one with stuff from home depot. Ots just plastic crap and primer and glue. Its not expensive as long as the concrete structure is sound youre good. Pools are simplemachines. Water gets sucked out, passws theough a filter picks up chlorine perhaps and is pumped back in. Its not rocket science. Even a heater is simple. Like i said if your handy and havebasic manly mechanical knowlege its nothing. If youve changed started alternators qater pumps and have done basic plumbing its almost a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 On June 12, 2016 at 11:26 AM, joewilly12 said: Took an above ground pool down a few years ago now the wife,college aged kids their friends neighbors all want to spit on my grave being that its been hotter than hell in N.J as of late. For those that have inground pools are they worth the overall investment. Wife wants to put something back like the one pictured in a salt water version. Keep cool everybody in the pool. The quality of your investment depends 100% on where you put the pool. The pic above is a good example of what NOT to do; install a pool near trees. Reasons: • Pool will always be dirty. Trees drop stuff nonstop. You'll spend more time cleaning it than enjoying it. Pool area will stay clean long enough for your camera, maybe. • Water will always be cold due to lack of sun. Cold water = nobody will use the pool. • Spring cleanup cover removal will be a dreaded nightmare. Tons of leaves, etc. * Equipment will be overworked. • A pool near wooded areas means nails, slugs, salamanders, snakes, mice, birds, and occasional bats will end up in the pool or filter. Plus loads of insects. Here's a pool that will stay warm and clean all by itself. No nearby trees means light-duty maintenance and less wear and tear on all equipment. It'll take a good gusty rainstorm to blow a mess in this pool. Plus the cleanup after winter will be minimal. Here's a pool that can have minor issues with tree droppings but still get lots of sun to maintain warm water. No pool salesman will tell you this. They'll dig you anything you want in a jungle to make a sale. It'll be your problem after that. And lastly, a pool with no diving board is like a pool table with no cue stick. Get at least a 10' board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 Thanks jetrider appreciate the tips my situation is similar to the second picture my yard has only 1 tree its annoying neighbors that have the dirty out of control trees, the town told me I can cut anything hanging over my property line and that will happen before installation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Never knew there was such thing as a salt water pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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adb280z Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I bought a house with an inground pool 5 years ago. I have 2 kids (7 & 9) I don't think I'd buy a house with a pool a 2nd time. Lots of work and $ involved in keeping it clean and ready to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 On 6/16/2016 at 1:31 PM, rillo said: Never knew there was such thing as a salt water pool. the only real salt water pool I ever took care of was for a guy with really bad eczema. he swam hours every day, so he had a heater put in. the salt ate the heater in 2 years. chlorine salt generator pools use table salt at a low level, then have a little device to separate the Na from the Cl, giving you chlorine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 I remember mowing the lawn at the hottest part of the day, getting covered in sweat and grass, and doing the nestea plunge in the deep end what a feeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 With the heatwave we are having my family wants me dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 On 6/13/2016 at 8:22 AM, The Crusher said: Nothing like enjoying a nice e-cig at night by the pool. Said no real man ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 On 6/18/2016 at 10:16 AM, Larz said: I remember mowing the lawn at the hottest part of the day, getting covered in sweat and grass, and doing the nestea plunge in the deep end what a feeling That is my absolute # 1 reason for having a pool. nothing better than cutting the grass and then jumping in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 4 hours ago, joewilly12 said: With the heatwave we are having my family wants me dead. We put an above ground pool in years ago. Last year it reached the end of its life. I dismantled it, threw it out and we thought about not getting a pool again. We built our deck so we could leave the house, walk on the deck and it was at pool level. So we were stuck with this weird deck and no pool. Really thought about being done with it. Then said screw it and we had a new pool put up late last summer. We had a problem with the cover when we closed it and leaves got in it. We opened it up, got it all cleaned up, was a big chore, because there were so many leaves. Had it crystal clear for a week or two and then we got algae. Got that cleared up and then we had another problem. Wasn't sure what that was but turns out it was pollen. The chemical levels have been perfect but the pool looked discolored. Anyhow long story short, At Home Recreation just opened a store here and they are amazing. They helped us...phosphate remover to make sure algae has no food source. They told us to point the eye towards the floor away from the skimmer. That creates a whirpool effect and keeps everything off the floor. Vaccumed tonight on waste and the POOL IS PERFECT. We not have a maintenance plan chemical wise which is simple. At Home Rec does an amazing water test. I even bought an automatic vaccuum which is great. So that is my way of saying even though it was a lot of work, we are really happy that we have a pool again. Our back yard is full sun so it warms up really quickly and my kids are in it all the time. Definitely glad we got a new pool again last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 On 6/16/2016 at 10:35 PM, adb280z said: I bought a house with an inground pool 5 years ago. I have 2 kids (7 & 9) I don't think I'd buy a house with a pool a 2nd time. Lots of work and $ involved in keeping it clean and ready to use. MY GF had a pool, a NICE pool, in ground. I told her growing up in NY, very few people had a pool. I then "pontificated" that the 2 families I knew with pools, their kids grew up very dysfunctional. WHY? The parents were more "its for the kids" type parents. They weren't mentors/teachers of their kids, they were care providers and wanted to be their buddy. Yes, I know im an a$shole on this subject but I bet if a regression study was done, it would support my theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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