PepPep Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Ryan Fitzpatrick, in his 12th year has had ONE. Point is, many great QBs have horrible games where they throw a bunch of INTs...and Fitz isn't even a great QB. These things happen. He only had ONE INT in the previous 2 games. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 oy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallinPB Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Joe Namath also played in the 60's and 70's. Different era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 must resist urge to join this discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 minute ago, BallinPB said: Joe Namath also played in the 60's and 70's. Different era. The DB's of that era could get away with stuff that has long been changed with new rules not to mention you could really cream the QB's of that time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 That was also before modern passing concepts and strategies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 As the passing game naturally progressed so did the pass defense. I agree on the whole different era comment. modern O and D schemes are way more complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, PCP63 said: That was also before modern passing concepts and strategies. You mean rule changes that hamper the defense and open up the offense?? What a concept BTW no Jet QB has passed for 4K in 16 games Joe did it in 14.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 How many 6 int games have there been in the 2000's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, PepPep said: Ryan Fitzpatrick, in his 12th year has had ONE. Point is, many great QBs have horrible games where they throw a bunch of INTs...and Fitz isn't even a great QB. These things happen. He only had ONE INT in the previous 2 games. That is all. That's one of the most useless comparison we see debated on this site all the time. When Namath threw 6 ints, 1967: Throws 6 picks in a game. Still didn't lose the game (tied). 1972. Namath throws for 2812 yards, 19 TDs and 21 picks. He makes the Pro Bowl and is a 2nd team All-Pro. 1975: Namath throws 6 ints in a game. Team won 3 games that year. 1976: Throws 5 ints in a game. Team won 3 again. 6 picks suck no matter how you wanna butter it up. In Namath's era, you made the Pro Bowl even after 21 picks. He made the 2nd team all-pro with 21 picks. And with all those 6 and 5 pick games in his career, he still made the HoF and deservedly so. He was a 2-time MVP. Fitz? He got a sniff of the playoffs in his 11th year, but decided he'll sh*t the bed instead. Never made it to the Pro Bowl, let alone any APs or MVP (lololol). Fitz should've had 10 ints last week. He's lucky he escaped with only 6 picks. ONLY 6 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 11 minutes ago, Savage69 said: You mean rule changes that hamper the defense and open up the offense?? What a concept BTW no Jet QB has passed for 4K in 16 games Joe did it in 14.. he also threw away the season w/ all his INTs that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 To paraphrase Lloyd Benson's response to Dan Quayle, "I knew Joe Namath. And Fitz? You're no Joe Namath". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 24 minutes ago, nyjunc said: must resist urge to join this discussion Why? Obviously with only one 6-interception game, it means Fitzpatrick is 3x better than a HOF QB. Duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Why? Obviously with only one 6-interception game, it means Fitzpatrick is 3x better than a HOF QB. Duh. it's more about my stance on Joe which obviously is unpopular on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 6 minutes ago, j4jets said: That's one of the most useless comparison we see debated on this site all the time. When Namath threw 6 ints, 1967: Throws 6 picks in a game. Still didn't lose the game (tied). 1972. Namath throws for 2812 yards, 19 TDs and 21 picks. He makes the Pro Bowl and is a 2nd team All-Pro. 1975: Namath throws 6 ints in a game. Team won 3 games that year. 1976: Throws 5 ints in a game. Team won 3 again. 6 picks suck no matter how you wanna butter it up. In Namath's era, you made the Pro Bowl even after 21 picks. He made the 2nd team all-pro with 21 picks. And with all those 6 and 5 pick games in his career, he still made the HoF and deservedly so. He was a 2-time MVP. Fitz? He got a sniff of the playoffs in his 11th year, but decided he'll sh*t the bed instead. Never made it to the Pro Bowl, let alone any APs or MVP (lololol). Fitz should've had 10 ints last week. He's lucky he escaped with only 6 picks. ONLY 6 picks. Not sure why ANYONE would think this thread suggested that Fitz is ANYWHERE near the QB Namath was (or ever will be). That's clearly not the point. The point is that sometimes even good QBs have bad days where they throw a lot of INTs. 6 is a lot, but I'm not sure why anyone is THAT surprised to see that from Fitz with the way the game was going and the limitations Fitz has as a QB and the fact that he is very clearly, as shown throughout his career, a mediocre up and down QB. To paraphrase the late D.Green- 'he is who we thought he was'. I just thought I'd use a Jet great to emphasize my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 No you didn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 6 minutes ago, nyjunc said: it's more about my stance on Joe which obviously is unpopular on here. You mean where you'll try and convince people that Sanchez was a better QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: You mean where you'll try and convince people that Sanchez was a better QB? yes, exactly I lose IQ points just from reading the posts of certain posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 16 minutes ago, nyjunc said: it's more about my stance on Joe which obviously is unpopular on here. In Joe's defense he was likely drunk lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 32 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said: How many 6 int games have there been in the 2000's? 9 since 1990. 6 ints or more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Feeble attempt to make a 6 Interception game "not that bad" and we all have bad days.. It was fooking horrendous!!! - Let's see how they fair against the NFL's a best D? How's Petty's shoulder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 27 minutes ago, PepPep said: Not sure why ANYONE would think this thread suggested that Fitz is ANYWHERE near the QB Namath was (or ever will be). That's clearly not the point. The point is that sometimes even good QBs have bad days where they throw a lot of INTs. 6 is a lot, but I'm not sure why anyone is THAT surprised to see that from Fitz with the way the game was going and the limitations Fitz has as a QB and the fact that he is very clearly, as shown throughout his career, a mediocre up and down QB. To paraphrase the late D.Green- 'he is who we thought he was'. I just thought I'd use a Jet great to emphasize my point. You think I didn't know what point you were making? You missed my point, apparently. 6 ints back then weren't the end of the world. You had Hall of Fame QBs that threw 5 and 6 ints numerous times. Meaning? It was the norm back then. Stats that put you in the HoF in the 60s, are the same stats that can end your career nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cant wait Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said: Why? Obviously with only one 6-interception game, it means Fitzpatrick is 3x better than a HOF QB. Duh. Well namath only got paid $500k a year, so clearly the jets think Fitz is $11.5M better too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 hour ago, nyjunc said: yes, exactly I lose IQ points just from reading the posts of certain posters. Mark Sanchez - 2009 loss to NO 24-10, 3 ints, 1 fumble loss to Buff 16-13, 5 ints, 1 fumble loss to NE 31-14, 4 ints, 1 fumble Loss to Atl 10-7, 3 ints Mark Sanchez - 2011 Last 3 games, 7 ints all three loses, we go form 8-5 to 8-8 and miss the playoffs. Mark Sanchez 9 - 3 plus int games in 8 years Ryan Fitzpatrick 11 - 3 plus int games in 12 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 2 hours ago, PepPep said: Ryan Fitzpatrick, in his 12th year has had ONE. Point is, many great QBs have horrible games where they throw a bunch of INTs...and Fitz isn't even a great QB. These things happen. He only had ONE INT in the previous 2 games. That is all. How many Superbowls did Fitzpatrick win and guarantee? //Tx'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 33 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Mark Sanchez - 2009 loss to NO 24-10, 3 ints, 1 fumble loss to Buff 16-13, 5 ints, 1 fumble loss to NE 31-14, 4 ints, 1 fumble Loss to Atl 10-7, 3 ints Mark Sanchez - 2011 Last 3 games, 7 ints all three loses, we go form 8-5 to 8-8 and miss the playoffs. Mark Sanchez 9 - 3 plus int games in 8 years Ryan Fitzpatrick 11 - 3 plus int games in 12 years. I don't get it- what is your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Savage69 said: The DB's of that era could get away with stuff that has long been changed with new rules not to mention you could really cream the QB's of that time.. True. Namath could still be a turnover machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 2 hours ago, nyjunc said: he also threw away the season w/ all his INTs that year. Were you even born in 1967?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 26 minutes ago, nyjunc said: I don't get it- what is your point? When you use the bold function it stands out more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, Savage69 said: Were you even born in 1967?? Me? Day before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 2 hours ago, nyjunc said: he also threw away the season w/ all his INTs that year. Without Namath there is no season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 16 minutes ago, Savage69 said: Were you even born in 1967?? was I alive to see Babe Ruth play? 11 minutes ago, The Crusher said: When you use the bold function it stands out more. I still don't get what that has to do with this? 8 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Without Namath there is no season. yes, what would the jets ghave been able to do w/ another QB w/ that excellent D, excellent run game and excellent group of receivers. Thank you Joe for those amazing 28 INTs in just 14 games that cost us a div title! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 3 hours ago, Obrien2Toon said: How many 6 int games have there been in the 2000's? Peyton and Farve.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 It's basically like they're the same player if you really think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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