phill1c Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, SAR I said: I hate players that decimate our franchise and waste years of our lives as investments that don't pay off. Nothing wastes more time than a young quarterback who never reaches his potential, Chad Pennington and Geno Smith are the same quarterback and both set us back about the same amount of time. As for your deflection, again, tell me why Geno Smith is a great quarterback prospect and how millions of us don't see it. SAR I Millions?! BTW, Chad Pennington played on a team that reached the Playoffs several seasons, AFC Championship once. So, he led some pretty good teams. Geno Smith started for TWO years on one of the least talented offensive rosters in the NFL and led one team to an 8-8 record. Not the best, but clearly not as bad as you keep saying he was. I don't think Smith is a "great" QB. I think he has a higher ceiling than Fitzpatrick and, with weapons he never had before, could be a quality QB who can expand the offense's capabilities. But, wow, I'm getting sucked into this morass of constant Geno/Fitzpatrick talk. He's not the starter. And, apparently, it would take Fitzpatrick's death before he will ever be. The topic is really old and very boring...it may consume your entire world but I have no desire for it to consume me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, Maxman said: I meant hate in the football sense not on a personal level. They can "hate" the way they felt watching Geno play QB the first few years of his career. So, you see this as "hate" in a football way only?! Even that is pretty immature. hardly...it's a personal hatred that transcends football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 1 minute ago, phill1c said: So, you see this as "hate" in a football way only?! Even that is pretty immature. hardly...it's a personal hatred that transcends football. Yes I was talking about it being okay for people to think Geno isn't a good football player based on his results on the field. That is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Only on JetNation am I forced to defend and blast Geno at the same time, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, Maxman said: Only on JetNation am I forced to defend and blast Geno at the same time, lol. Give yourself credit, you've done a heck of alot more defending of Geno than "blasting". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Maxman said: Yes I was talking about it being okay for people to think Geno isn't a good football player based on his results on the field. That is possible. But, clearly, that is not what most Geno Haters are doing. They aren't merely saying "he's not a good football player" they are saying they hate him. Contrast the opinions posted about Ryan Fitzpatrick, he of the 28th ranking vs. the 30th ranked Smith. Not at all the same. Not at all comparable. The hatred spewed is off the charts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Just now, phill1c said: But, clearly, that is not what most Geno Haters are doing. They aren't merely saying "he's not a good football player" they are saying they hate him. Contrast the opinions posted about Ryan Fitzpatrick, he of the 28th ranking vs. the 30th ranked Smith. Not at all the same. Not at all comparable. The hatred spewed is off the charts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, Maxman said: Only on JetNation am I forced to defend and blast Geno at the same time, lol. It's a burden only a Maxman could shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, Maxman said: Only on JetNation am I forced to defend and blast Geno at the same time, lol. LOL. And only here am I a racist when I was the only one speaking out against the white facemasks, can't make this stuff up. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, phill1c said: But, clearly, that is not what most Geno Haters are doing. They aren't merely saying "he's not a good football player" they are saying they hate him. Contrast the opinions posted about Ryan Fitzpatrick, he of the 28th ranking vs. the 30th ranked Smith. Not at all the same. Not at all comparable. The hatred spewed is off the charts. Our Facebook page has 18,000 likes. If I screen printed the deleted comments towards Ryan Fitzpatrick we wouldn't be having this conversation. The internet can be a mean and nasty place. Some people post racist things. Not everyone does. The point here again is it is dangerous to call people "racist" based on football evaluations when you don't know them in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, Maxman said: Our Facebook page has 18,000 likes. If I screen printed the deleted comments towards Ryan Fitzpatrick we wouldn't be having this conversation. The internet can be a mean and nasty place. Some people post racist things. Not everyone does. The point here again is it is dangerous to call people "racist" based on football evaluations when you don't know them in real life. My opinion, you spew the level of personal hate that Smith is subjected to, I have absolutely no interest in knowing you more than that. And what is the danger? that, somehow, these are rational, intelligent people?! THAT would be dangerous... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, Warfish said: Give yourself credit, you've done a heck of alot more defending of Geno than "blasting". Yes because we all know that: 1. Everything I post here is never sarcastic and 2. I really believe Geno will lead the Jets to the playoffs this year My plan involved not giving Fitz more than 7 million and letting Geno start until one of the kids could beat him out. Hopefully that would have been week 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Just now, Maxman said: Yes because we all know that: 1. Everything I post here is never sarcastic Yes because we all know that: 1. Everything I post here is never sarcastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, SAR I said: LOL. And only here am I a racist when I was the only one speaking out against the white facemasks, can't make this stuff up. SAR I No, I suspect you're a racist in the real world too...you practice how you play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Warfish said: Yes because we all know that: 1. Everything I post here is never sarcastic We are only accepting posts in numbered format if they contain multiple items. Same goes for bulleted items. Only on multiple entries. Please resubmit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 21 minutes ago, phill1c said: Millions?! BTW, Chad Pennington played on a team that reached the Playoffs several seasons, AFC Championship once. So, he led some pretty good teams. Geno Smith started for TWO years on one of the least talented offensive rosters in the NFL and led one team to an 8-8 record. Not the best, but clearly not as bad as you keep saying he was. I don't think Smith is a "great" QB. I think he has a higher ceiling than Fitzpatrick and, with weapons he never had before, could be a quality QB who can expand the offense's capabilities. But, wow, I'm getting sucked into this morass of constant Geno/Fitzpatrick talk. He's not the starter. And, apparently, it would take Fitzpatrick's death before he will ever be. The topic is really old and very boring...it may consume your entire world but I have no desire for it to consume me. There are millions of Jets fans so, yes, there are millions of people who "do not love" Geno Smith. Chad Pennington never played in an AFC Championship Game, you should check your Jets history. He ruined the masterpiece that Bill Parcells built, couldn't play clutch in a big game to save his life, fooled everyone with his sweet smile, he's just a different version of Rex Ryan, that's why I severely "do not love" Chad Pennington. What's old and boring are fans like you who raise a huge stink about every other quarterback on the roster and their foibles without anything tangible to defend your positive outlook on Geno. The reason you are angry is because after Fitzpatrick's failure you thought this was going to be a fun week in the forums, strutting your stuff, getting some strange vengeance against your fellow Jets fans. And instead, you're getting the reality that Fitzpatrick's failure is Geno Smith's failure because it's Geno Smith's fault Ryan Fitzpatrick is on the team. This is what happens when you are an NFL franchise quarterback who busts. You are responsible for team failure long after you're on the bench, long after you're in the CFL. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 "Chad Pennington never played in an AFC Championship Game, you should check your Jets history..." I thought he lost to Oakland in the AFC Championship game, his first year as starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, SAR I said: There are millions of Jets fans so, yes, there are millions of people who "do not love" Geno Smith. Chad Pennington never played in an AFC Championship Game, you should check your Jets history. He ruined the masterpiece that Bill Parcells built, couldn't play clutch in a big game to save his life, that's why I severely "do not love" Chad Pennington. What's old and boring are fans like you who raise a huge stink about every other quarterback on the roster and their foibles without anything tangible to defend your positive outlook on Geno. The reason you are angry is because after Fitzpatrick's failure you thought this was going to be a fun week in the forums, strutting your stuff, getting some strange vengeance against your fellow Jets fans. And instead, you're getting the reality that Fitzpatrick's failure is Geno Smith's failure because it's Geno Smith's fault Ryan Fitzpatrick is on the team. This is what happens when you are an NFL franchise quarterback who busts. You are responsible for team failure long after you're on the bench, long after you're in the CFL. SAR I No need for the personal attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, phill1c said: "Chad Pennington never played in an AFC Championship Game, you should check your Jets history..." I thought he lost to Oakland in the AFC Championship game, his first year as starter. Wow , this explains alot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfmckenna Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Can't wait for this bum to be cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Jolot said: Wow , this explains alot Ok, what does it explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 5 minutes ago, phill1c said: No, I suspect you're a racist in the real world too...you practice how you play. No, you're the only racist here, trust me on that one. What happened to that "ignore" strategy? Please use it. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Just now, SAR I said: No, you're the only racist here, trust me on that one. What happened to that "ignore" strategy? Please use it. SAR I I can't find the button. But, you know, it works both ways... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Alright guys this thread is really close to being locked. Just ignore each other and let's move on. We have a disappointing Jets team to talk about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 ok... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, Maxman said: Alright guys this thread is really close to being locked. Just ignore each other and let's move on. We have a disappointing Jets team to talk about. We are going to win on Sunday. Journeyman quarterbacks are known for their inconsistency, up and down, it's an "up" week. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 9 hours ago, Maxman said: We are only accepting posts in numbered format if they contain multiple items. Same goes for bulleted items. Only on multiple entries. Please resubmit. 1. Derp 2. Herp 3. Blurp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 19 hours ago, Bleedin Green said: Those in glass houses. This thread is kind of laughably ridiculous considering the desperate attempts some are making to translate it into outrage they made up. With that said, you're quite literally the last person on this board with any room to judge on that kind of stuff. This type of nonsense is pretty much the content of every single thing you ever post around here. Just because it's in favor of/against different players doesn't make your drivel any better than their drivel. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Our fans suck. Our players suck more. Geno is a doosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 10 hours ago, phill1c said: But, clearly, that is not what most Geno Haters are doing. They aren't merely saying "he's not a good football player" they are saying they hate him. Contrast the opinions posted about Ryan Fitzpatrick, he of the 28th ranking vs. the 30th ranked Smith. Not at all the same. Not at all comparable. The hatred spewed is off the charts. From what I've seen it is almost exactly the opposite of what you just said. Congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 20 hours ago, Savage69 said: The Globe has been warming and cooling since the beginning of time remember the Ice age?? Actually, SCIENCE indicates that the ice age was caused by a meteor hitting the earth. But, wow, somehow people think that you can put a fire under a pot of water and it boils the water but you can run BILLIONS of heat sources on the planet and it has no effect?! Your car can overheat but the world, not so much...??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 16 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Our fans suck. Our players suck more. Geno is a doosh. Many of them do. Too many of them currently do and Yes. hashtagGenopouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 11 hours ago, SAR I said: Racism: I hated on Chad Pennington 10x more than Geno Smith and he's the whitest white-guy alive so there's that. I would also say that what you just said about me is about the most racist thing, ever. FWIW the Jets jerseys my kids and I wear are Bart Scott, Ladanian Tomlinson, Darrelle Revis, Quinton Coples, and Calvin Prior, but let's let that go. Racist. How low. Substance: I gave you the opportunity to school me on why I am being way too hard on Geno Smith and show me the mistake in judgement myself and millions of Jets fans across the world have shown towards him. So what is it? Trust me, no one wants one of the quarterbacks on our roster to be the next Tom Brady more than I do, so it would thrill me to learn that that guy is Geno Smith. SAR I Hey I got a beautiful old school stitched Johnny Abe jersey that no longer fits neither of my boys. It's beautiful. Free to a good home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 18 minutes ago, Beerfish said: From what I've seen it is almost exactly the opposite of what you just said. Congrats. I dont "hate" many things in life and it is generally reserved for all things patriots. @Integrity28 I am thinking about taking the next step and actually dating this girl who is a pats fan. you are married to one. my brother who is a Giants fan said I am crazy for even considering taking it beyond sex. you are married to a Pats fan, what say you? [slaps self for asking monkey for dating advice] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 11 hours ago, Maxman said: Only on JetNation am I forced to defend and blast Geno at the same time, lol. Do you hate it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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