sourceworx Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 #idzik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, Kleckineau said: Sanchez is right up there with Miliner and Gholston. On what planet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackhuntr Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Not a bust but, drafting a average kicker in the second round ( Nugent) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 9 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: On what planet? Jersey? ☺ OK It may be a bit of a stretch because Sanchez did see a lot of action and is still in the league(hanging by a thread) but purely looking at him as a QB picked at 5 that isnt a franchise player is certainly a high octane bust. Plus its fair to say the second contract Tannenbum gave him magnified the picks negative effect on the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Can't blame Sanchez for taking the $. I think a bust can be defined as someone who has been cut before the end of his rookie contract and is very shortly out of the NFL even if there is an attempt or two to try him out elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 35 minutes ago, Kleckineau said: Jersey? ☺ OK It may be a bit of a stretch because Sanchez did see a lot of action and is still in the league(hanging by a thread) but purely looking at him as a QB picked at 5 that isnt a franchise player is certainly a high octane bust. Plus its fair to say the second contract Tannenbum gave him magnified the picks negative effect on the franchise. That's all fair to think Sanchez was a bust because he didn't become a franchise QB, but in terms of top 10 drafted QB busts and busts of 1st round Jets picks, he's probably not even in the top 5 or 10 of either. They got 4 years out of him. Gholston and Milliner didn't even make it that long in the league as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 42 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: That's all fair to think Sanchez was a bust because he didn't become a franchise QB, but in terms of top 10 drafted QB busts and busts of 1st round Jets picks, he's probably not even in the top 5 or 10 of either. They got 4 years out of him. Gholston and Milliner didn't even make it that long in the league as a whole. When you consider they gave up picks to move up to draft him and the high cost of the second contract given him byTannenbum he is easily one of the Jets worst 1st rounders ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 So that means there are what? 4-5 Idzik picks remaining? The purge is almost complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 11 hours ago, New York Mick said: VG. Outside of me and JetsBabe most everyone thought he was going to be great. A bunch of people were angry over Dee a cant stay healthy Milner. Meh, I remember those days on JI and the draft forum was strongly against Vernon. I know I was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Milliner or Gholston... Which is worse, a sh1t sandwich or a 6 foot hero? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, Kleckineau said: When you consider they gave up picks to move up to draft him and the high cost of the second contract given him byTannenbum he is easily one of the Jets worst 1st rounders ever. All they really gave up was a 2nd round pick to move up to take him, which given the Jets history would have been a wasted pick anyway. The second contract was on management. Mark Sanchez isn't even close to one of the worst 1st rounders ever. I can name at least 5 just in the past 10 years that have had worse careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, JiF said: Meh, I remember those days on JI and the draft forum was strongly against Vernon. I know I was. I also remember it this way... No middle ground on VG. Not being a draftnik I had no dog in that fight. I only formed opinions about Gholston after he arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 6 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: All they really gave up was a 2nd round pick to move up to take him, which given the Jets history would have been a wasted pick anyway. The second contract was on management. Mark Sanchez isn't even close to one of the worst 1st rounders ever. I can name at least 5 just in the past 10 years that have had worse careers. They gave up 2 picks. A low first and a second to get pick 5. He may have been a better athlete than Miliner or VG but like I said his damaging effects are still being felt. VG and Miliner is they are gone and replaced by better players. The Sanchez pick is still hurting the team. If he was just average they wouldnt be stuck with sh*tzpatrick and Geno the last 2-3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, Kleckineau said: They gave up 2 picks. A low first and a second to get pick 5. He may have been a better athlete than Miliner or VG but like I said his damaging effects are still being felt. VG and Miliner is they are gone and replaced by better players. The Sanchez pick is still hurting the team. If he was just average they wouldnt be stuck with sh*tzpatrick and Geno the last 2-3 years. Right. All they gave up was a 2nd round pick to move from 17 to 5 (I think those are correct) and a few players that never amounted to anything. I don't disagree but the player himself had a few solid seasons here and contributed to wins. Milliner had one month. VG had nothing. Also, if VG doesn't suck do the Jets have to draft 3 defensive lineman in the last six years in the first round? Don't think that didn't have a trickle. If Milliner doesn't suck do they have to pay Cro 8 million last year and Revis 17 million for 3 or 4? Or Buster freakin' Skrine 7.5? There are always ripples to first round picks not panning out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 12 hours ago, New York Mick said: VG. Outside of me and JetsBabe most everyone thought he was going to be great. A bunch of people were angry over Dee a cant stay healthy Milner. I remember this the opposite way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 23 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Another 1st round BUST GONE ................ I'd say give him a chance. With Nnamdi Asomugha-er-Darrelle Revis all washed up, they need help with the secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 I wonder how many posters on forums for other teams are going nuts about signing this beast. 1st round, top 10 pick, Alabama, flashed for 4 games of his entire 4 year career. If he just got cut from another team, JN would be going nuts for him. Good freaking riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 23 hours ago, RoadFan said: I am sure there are still some Jet fans who feel we should give him more time to prove himself. Come out, come out wherever you are... Id say give him more time. With Nnamdi Asomugha-er-Darrelle Revis washed up, we need help in the secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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