Jets Daily Dosage. Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Very impressive even at such a small sample size, based on his relative struggles last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 How long did it take David Castro to live up to his potential in Pittsburg ? Players take time to develop and they will look awful while doing it against players who have already developed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 E/U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 So are we saying that some jumped the gun and killed a young player too soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Losing him would be an emurgency situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Winters' play this year has definitely been a pleasant surprise, and will certainly be worth looking to retain this coming offseason as long as he keeps this up and the price is right. While I understand the concept of giving a player enough time to an extent, Winters is now in his fourth year so he has already had plenty of time, and if he didn't step it up this year, he likely would have never been anything more than a backup for the rest of his NFL career. Taking 4 years to get it together is hardly the expectation for a third round pick. In Winters case, it only came across worse to fans considering that he was brought in to replace Slauson, and ended up being a major downgrade to a former 6th round pick who took less time than this to develop. In the end, it's still a nice thing to see, so no reason to be unhappy now, but he hardly deserves a pass for his poor play in the past either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Qb and OC scheme are helping our oline a lot but they have played pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 I liked the Winters pick from that draft based on value. It looked bad for the first few years. He's been playing well. The entire OL has been playing very well. We need as many Idzick picks to hit as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Not having Breno next to him probably helps, but the O-Line has been right about average, which is better than I expected out of this group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 18 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Not having Breno next to him probably helps, but the O-Line has been right about average, which is better than I expected out of this group. Breno's injury has been a blessing in disguise. Apart from his overall suckiness not being in the lineup, Ijalana and Qvale are both getting valuable live reps and seem to be developing nicely. Next step: Dump Breno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 54 minutes ago, PS17 said: Losing him would be an emurgency situation. Damn. Beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Thank Izdik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 8 minutes ago, j4jets said: Thank Izdik. The architect of our soon to be superbowl winning team. Geno comes off the bench, Winters makes the great block and Geno tosses a graceful 50 yarder to Enunwa for the winning score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 27 minutes ago, Beerfish said: The architect of our soon to be superbowl winning team. Geno comes off the bench, Winters makes the great block and Geno tosses a graceful 50 yarder to Enunwa for the winning score. And Idzik becomes the first person to get inducted into the Hall of Fame while still holding a title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: Qb and OC scheme are helping our oline a lot but they have played pretty well. This. It is amazing what coaching can do and Fitz is good (normally) about not holding the ball too long; stepping up (or sliding to the side) which helps as well in the passing game. I don't think they are nearly as dominant in run blocking as in the past. It will be interesting to see if they resign him or move on at the end of the year. 2 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Not having Breno next to him probably helps, but the O-Line has been right about average, which is better than I expected out of this group. It is hard to say, but the new guys seem to be less of a turnstile so that probably helps; however, I am sure it is more challenging having 2 different guys substituting in; everyone talks about how important it is to be consistent at the line, and Winters now has to deal with two different RT all game long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Streets be saying I'm balling like Idzik rhymes are mad sick number one draft pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 1 hour ago, j4jets said: Thank Izdik. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, sourceworx said: Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while. He had his fair share of nuts. Sheldon, Winters, Pryor, Enunwa. Not the most shabbiest drafts in our history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, j4jets said: He had his fair share of nuts. Sheldon, Winters, Pryor, Enunwa. Not the most shabbiest drafts in our history. Idzik loves nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 I think Jet fans tend to exaggerate how bad Winters was. He was never THAT bad. He was always solid in the run game, had issues in pass blocking which he worked on throughout his career and obviously improved. If he was as bad as Jet fans made him out to be, he would not be in the NFL anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 His play has been hege for the Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, BigRy56 said: Idzik loves nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 3 hours ago, PS17 said: Losing him would be an emurgency situation. I like that he plays with a high amount of enurgy every play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 22 minutes ago, j4jets said: He had his fair share of nuts. Let's see: 2013 Milliner - Colossal bust. Not quite Vernon Gholston, but pretty close. Sheldon - good player, dumb as a box of rocks. One more run-in with the law and he'll be suspended for a year. Still was a good pick. Geno Smith - Utter dogsh*t Winters - Finally playing well. Oday Aboushi - Bust Will Campbell - Bust Tommy Bohanon - Meh Summary: One very good player, one solid player. Other than that a pretty bad draft. 2014 Pryor - Good player. But considering we passed on Teddy Bridgewater, this is a fail. Good QB >>> Good Safety Amaro - Major Bust. Could have used this pick to move up for Derek Carr. McDougal - Bust Saunders - Major bust Evans - Bust Dozier - Still on the team, but he sucks. Bust George - Bust Dixon - Bust Enunwa - Developing into a good player IK - Bust as a player, but saved our season last year. Boyd -Any time you allow Rex to influence your pick you fail. Bust Reilly - Meh Summary: Two good players, but one was chosen over a potential franchise QB, so that's a major failure. Another good QB was skipped over in favor of a tight end who couldn't catch or block. 13 picks, two good players. Two good QBs skipped over. This draft will haunt us for years. So......you were saying about all of his fair share of nuts????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 3 hours ago, Jet Nut said: So are we saying that some jumped the gun and killed a young player too soon? Shocking, isn't it? Imagine franchises like Pittsburgh, San Francisco, etc reacted the same way certain fan-bases do when a player does not turn into a pro-bowler the minute they step on the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 24 minutes ago, j4jets said: He had his fair share of nuts. Sheldon, Winters, Pryor, Enunwa. Not the most shabbiest drafts in our history. I don't think you can overestimate how many nuts it'd take to satisfy @sourceworx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Just now, T0mShane said: I don't think you can overestimate how many nuts it'd take to satisfy @sourceworx I like 'em big, dark, salty, and plentiful. Idzik's were small, light, bland, and sparse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 23 minutes ago, j4jets said: He had his fair share of nuts. Sheldon, Winters, Pryor, Enunwa. Not the most shabbiest drafts in our history. Well, given he was hired to be the G.M. of an NFL franchise, you would HOPE he couldn't be completely useless. But Sheldon has caused many a problem, and Pryor is NOT the best safety taken in that draft. But we'll give you those 4. I'll even give you Trevor Reilly for 5. But now we get to play this game: Dee Millner, Geno Smith, Oday Aboushi, William Campbell, Tommy Bohanon, Jace Amaro, Dexter McDougle, Jalen Saunders, Shaq Evans, Dakota Dozier (maybe), Jeremiah George, Brandon Dixon, IK Enemkpala, Tajh Boyd 19 picks. 3 current starters, Hmmmmm....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 15 minutes ago, Kleckineau said: I like that he plays with a high amount of enurgy every play. He is clearly enturing his prime as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 9 minutes ago, sourceworx said: I like 'em big, dark, salty, and plentiful. Idzik's were small, light, bland, and sparse. Ummmmmmmm please don't post like this in the future.....OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 43 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Streets be saying I'm balling like Idzik rhymes are mad sick number one draft pick Tom's drunk again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 20 minutes ago, sourceworx said: Let's see: 2013 Milliner - Colossal bust. Not quite Vernon Gholston, but pretty close. Sheldon - good player, dumb as a box of rocks. One more run-in with the law and he'll be suspended for a year. Still was a good pick. Geno Smith - Utter dogsh*t Winters - Finally playing well. Oday Aboushi - Bust Will Campbell - Bust Tommy Bohanon - Meh Summary: One very good player, one solid player. Other than that a pretty bad draft. First off, Im not defending him by any stretch of the imagination. I was simply pointing out that he picked a few good players like you pointed out. Sheldon is an All-Pro. Don't care if he's dumb. And he's not getting suspended for a year. Not anymore. Either way, he's still here and is a still better than just "good player". Two starters from the draft, one All-Pro. Not bad. 20 minutes ago, sourceworx said: 2014 Pryor - Good player. But considering we passed on Teddy Bridgewater, this is a fail. Good QB >>> Good Safety Amaro - Major Bust. Could have used this pick to move up for Derek Carr. McDougal - Bust Saunders - Major bust Evans - Bust Dozier - Still on the team, but he sucks. Bust George - Bust Dixon - Bust Enunwa - Developing into a good player IK - Bust as a player, but saved our season last year. Boyd -Any time you allow Rex to influence your pick you fail. Bust Reilly - Meh Summary: Two good players, but one was chosen over a potential franchise QB, so that's a major failure. Another good QB was skipped over in favor of a tight end who couldn't catch or block. 13 picks, two good players. Two good QBs skipped over. This draft will haunt us for years. So......you were saying about all of his fair share of nuts????????? Pryor was a good pick. We needed safety. Yeah we passed over Bridgewater but we had just drafted Geno and he was the rookie of the month only a few months prior to the draft. And Bridgewater hasn't done anything to claim him the next Joe Montana. His Pro-Bowl ticket was a massive joke. Besides, its easy to nitpick when hindsight is 20/20. Are you saying our 2015 draft will also haunt us for years since we picked up Petty instead of Siemian? And 2016 since we passed on Lynch and Prescott? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 1 hour ago, sourceworx said: Summary: Two good players, but one was chosen over a potential franchise QB, so that's a major failure. ^thinks a guy who drafted Christian Hackenberg two rounds earlier than Dak Prescott has done "a good job overall" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 51 minutes ago, j4jets said: First off, Im not defending him by any stretch of the imagination. I was simply pointing out that he picked a few good players like you pointed out. Sheldon is an All-Pro. Don't care if he's dumb. And he's not getting suspended for a year. Not anymore. Either way, he's still here and is a still better than just "good player". Two starters from the draft, one All-Pro. Not bad. Pryor was a good pick. We needed safety. Yeah we passed over Bridgewater but we had just drafted Geno and he was the rookie of the month only a few months prior to the draft. And Bridgewater hasn't done anything to claim him the next Joe Montana. His Pro-Bowl ticket was a massive joke. Besides, its easy to nitpick when hindsight is 20/20. Are you saying our 2015 draft will also haunt us for years since we picked up Petty instead of Siemian? And 2016 since we passed on Lynch and Prescott? Discounting him passing on Bridgewater (and it's pretty unforgivable if you ask me), receiver was a much bigger need than safety. And there were good ones available at that pick. But even ignoring that, and accepting the Pryor pick as a successful choice, that's two good players out of 13 picks in one of the most talent-rich drafts in recent memory. Any way you look at it, this was a terrible job by Idzik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, dbatesman said: ^thinks a guy who drafted Christian Hackenberg two rounds earlier than Dak Prescott has done "a good job overall" ^thinks Idzik should have stayed so he could hire Darrell Bevell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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