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Geno came into the league and was supposed to be red-shirted his rookie year, until Snatchez got hurt in the last preseason game. Geno was then thrust into the starting lineup, unprepared, and unsupported by the talent around him. Still wins 8 games despite his expected poor play. He was never ready his rookie year. 

Next year, he has a bad start with Decker as his #1, albeit the hammy issue, and Hills as his #2. Pretty talented group of WRs there for a QB not named any of the elite QBs.  Get Harvin after his benching essentially and finishes the season strong. Very strong. Don't care who the opponent was, he posted a perfect rating while Decker had a career game. 

Then IK happened and Geno gets to play one game without any reps with the starters. Does ok. Now this year, he is brought into the last game, again without any reps with the first in a situation guaranteed to fail, thanks to Fitz (although this thread is not about Fitz). 

People on here want Petty to start but they think the Jets brass is using Geno as bridge for Petty to start because Perty needs practice before he can start. Yeah, cool story, bro. 

This is the NFL. If Jets CS thought Petty was ready to take over, he would have already. He clearly isn't. Hasn't played a snap against an NFL defender. Couldn't beat out Geno in camp and people think throwing a couple of TDs against non-NFL defenders is equivalent to some sort of competition victory. 

Petty wasn't IR'd cuz Jets CS didn't want Hack to take a snap this year. Petty was to be the backup to two QBs that play a rather physical style of football for a QB. If Jets are say 2-8, Petty probably still won't play cuz if he does, there's a good chance we end the season as 3-13 or at best 4-12. At that point, I don't think Bowles position is safe. So Bowles has to try and win at least 6 games to be safe. 2-14 and he's fired. 4-12 and its 50/50. 6-10 and he survives a year. 

That's why Petty isn't playing. Giving him reps, and getting up to speed after two off seasons and an entire year isn't on the Jets CS' agenda. If Geno bombs, then Petty can't do much worse anyways. 

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Alot of hot air, projection and presumption.

TLDR:  

Geno Smith is our starting QB now.  Staying our starter is 100% on him. 

If he plays well, he'll keep starting.  If he doesn't, he won't.

No excuses, same as for Fitz.  No whining about the Defense.  No whining about drops.  No whining about the Running Game.

Rise or fall, it's on Geno.

Petty is irrelevant, unless Geno makes him relevant.

So get to work Geno.

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You answered your own question.

If Bowles thought either Geno or Petty were ready, then there would not have been a need to bring back Fitz to start or draft Hackenberg to be compete or be a back-up next year.

 

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36 minutes ago, j4jets said:

Geno came into the league and was supposed to be red-shirted his rookie year, until Snatchez got hurt in the last preseason game. Geno was then thrust into the starting lineup, unprepared, and unsupported by the talent around him. Still wins 8 games despite his expected poor play. He was never ready his rookie year. 

Next year, he has a bad start with Decker as his #1, albeit the hammy issue, and Hills as his #2. Pretty talented group of WRs there for a QB not named any of the elite QBs.  Get Harvin after his benching essentially and finishes the season strong. Very strong. Don't care who the opponent was, he posted a perfect rating while Decker had a career game. 

Then IK happened and Geno gets to play one game without any reps with the starters. Does ok. Now this year, he is brought into the last game, again without any reps with the first in a situation guaranteed to fail, thanks to Fitz (although this thread is not about Fitz). 

People on here want Petty to start but they think the Jets brass is using Geno as bridge for Petty to start because Perty needs practice before he can start. Yeah, cool story, bro. 

This is the NFL. If Jets CS thought Petty was ready to take over, he would have already. He clearly isn't. Hasn't played a snap against an NFL defender. Couldn't beat out Geno in camp and people think throwing a couple of TDs against non-NFL defenders is equivalent to some sort of competition victory. 

Petty wasn't IR'd cuz Jets CS didn't want Hack to take a snap this year. Petty was to be the backup to two QBs that play a rather physical style of football for a QB. If Jets are say 2-8, Petty probably still won't play cuz if he does, there's a good chance we end the season as 3-13 or at best 4-12. At that point, I don't think Bowles position is safe. So Bowles has to try and win at least 6 games to be safe. 2-14 and he's fired. 4-12 and its 50/50. 6-10 and he survives a year. 

That's why Petty isn't playing. Giving him reps, and getting up to speed after two off seasons and an entire year isn't on the Jets CS' agenda. If Geno bombs, then Petty can't do much worse anyways. 

Because if they start a guy who hasn't played in a regular season game, they are admitting to giving up on the year.  While that may happen in a couple weeks, right now, they are still holding out hope for a KC like run.

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51 minutes ago, j4jets said:

Geno came into the league and was supposed to be red-shirted his rookie year, until Snatchez got hurt in the last preseason game. Geno was then thrust into the starting lineup, unprepared, and unsupported by the talent around him. Still wins 8 games despite his expected poor play. He was never ready his rookie year. 

Next year, he has a bad start with Decker as his #1, albeit the hammy issue, and Hills as his #2. Pretty talented group of WRs there for a QB not named any of the elite QBs.  Get Harvin after his benching essentially and finishes the season strong. Very strong. Don't care who the opponent was, he posted a perfect rating while Decker had a career game. 

Then IK happened and Geno gets to play one game without any reps with the starters. Does ok. Now this year, he is brought into the last game, again without any reps with the first in a situation guaranteed to fail, thanks to Fitz (although this thread is not about Fitz). 

People on here want Petty to start but they think the Jets brass is using Geno as bridge for Petty to start because Perty needs practice before he can start. Yeah, cool story, bro. 

This is the NFL. If Jets CS thought Petty was ready to take over, he would have already. He clearly isn't. Hasn't played a snap against an NFL defender. Couldn't beat out Geno in camp and people think throwing a couple of TDs against non-NFL defenders is equivalent to some sort of competition victory. 

Petty wasn't IR'd cuz Jets CS didn't want Hack to take a snap this year. Petty was to be the backup to two QBs that play a rather physical style of football for a QB. If Jets are say 2-8, Petty probably still won't play cuz if he does, there's a good chance we end the season as 3-13 or at best 4-12. At that point, I don't think Bowles position is safe. So Bowles has to try and win at least 6 games to be safe. 2-14 and he's fired. 4-12 and its 50/50. 6-10 and he survives a year. 

That's why Petty isn't playing. Giving him reps, and getting up to speed after two off seasons and an entire year isn't on the Jets CS' agenda. If Geno bombs, then Petty can't do much worse anyways. 

Petty is still recovering from an injury ... Bowles said as much... He isn't an option YET.

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I think there's also something to be said about Petty being Mac's draft pick. They throw him in there after missing the last 5 weeks of practice and he looks bad, that's a hit on them. They'd rather play it safe and let him get up to speed. Meanwhile, throw Geno out there - he's an Idzik pick and has already under performed.. so there's really not much to lose.

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1 minute ago, Jetsplayer21 said:

Because they still want to win. They view smith as easily being the better option( gamble ) right now. When we are mathematically out of playoffs, when it's more end of the season where the bad team like the jets just want the yr to end, you will definitely see petty..

We arent out of the playoffs yet. Keep the faith. 

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6 minutes ago, jfmckenna said:

Because his shoulder got totally Penningtoned in the last preseason game.

He's shot.

How many times are you going to spam the board with this crap?  Unless you have a link that describes the alleged damage to his shoulder that you're claiming.. STFU

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There's still a lot of season left.  If Geno stinks it up like everyone's assuming he will Petty will get his shot, 7 or 8 games should be plenty to judge Petty on.  Why rush him in right now?  He hasn't practiced in 6 weeks, give Geno one last look before he walks out the door and when he crashes and burn like expected the kids get their shot.

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1 hour ago, Warfish said:

Alot of hot air, projection and presumption.

TLDR:  

Geno Smith is our starting QB now.  Staying our starter is 100% on him. 

If he plays well, he'll keep starting.  If he doesn't, he won't.

No excuses, same as for Fitz.  No whining about the Defense.  No whining about drops.  No whining about the Running Game.

Rise or fall, it's on Geno.

Petty is irrelevant, unless Geno makes him relevant.

So get to work Geno.

Agree 100% with this. This situation is much better than 2014 , if he fails now he's got himself to blame.

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57 minutes ago, PFSIKH said:

You answered your own question.

If Bowles thought either Geno or Petty were ready, then there would not have been a need to bring back Fitz to start or draft Hackenberg to be compete or be a back-up next year.

 

If anything resigning and starting Fitz this season was the PR move , instead of people claiming Fitz getting benched and Geno stating was Woody's mandated PR move. All the media and pundits were telling us how the Jets had to resign Fitz and we couldn't win w/o him. Some of us felt going with the 3 younger QB's was the right way to go, obviously someone in the Jets organization felt differently.

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If anything resigning and starting Fitz this season was the PR move , instead of people claiming Fitz getting benched and Geno stating was Woody's mandated PR move. All the media and pundits were telling us how the Jets had to resign Fitz and we couldn't win w/o him. Some of us felt going with the 3 younger QB's was the right way to go, obviously someone in the Jets organization felt differently.

LOL.

Ok, GenoPleco.
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1 hour ago, PFSIKH said:

You answered your own question.

If Bowles thought either Geno or Petty were ready, then there would not have been a need to bring back Fitz to start or draft Hackenberg to be compete or be a back-up next year.

 

I know. I was, in fact, answering the question. And yes, Petty isn't close to being ready, unless it's Madden. He can read coverages. 

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1 hour ago, shuler82 said:

I think there's also something to be said about Petty being Mac's draft pick. They throw him in there after missing the last 5 weeks of practice and he looks bad, that's a hit on them. They'd rather play it safe and let him get up to speed. Meanwhile, throw Geno out there - he's an Idzik pick and has already under performed.. so there's really not much to lose.

Yeah, I doubt they're thinking like that. If they did, Petty would be starting. 

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8 minutes ago, j4jets said:

Bowles also said Fitz is the starter. Petty has been throwing. 

Wow, He has been throwing for a week... seriously,.... Come on, your better then that. He had a semi-serious shoulder injury... Its gonna take a couple weeks to get back in the groove.

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26 minutes ago, Skeptable said:

Wow, He has been throwing for a week... seriously,.... Come on, your better then that. He had a semi-serious shoulder injury... Its gonna take a couple weeks to get back in the groove.

lol @ get back in the groove. 

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37 minutes ago, j4jets said:

Yeah, I doubt they're thinking like that. If they did, Petty would be starting. 

how so?

If they put Petty in a bad situation after missing 5 weeks and he looks bad, people will be screaming about how he's a wasted draft pick - a pick  that this front office made. If Geno goes out and sh*ts the bed, so what? He's a leftover from the previous regime who wont be here in 2017. They had to replace Fitz now and didn't want to rush Petty into action. They'll play Petty when he's up to speed and not a minute before. It's not that hard to grasp

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3 minutes ago, shuler82 said:

how so?

If they put Petty in a bad situation after missing 5 weeks and he looks bad, people will be screaming about how he's a wasted draft pick - a pick  that this front office made. If Geno goes out and sh*ts the bed, so what? He's a leftover from the previous regime who wont be here in 2017. They had to replace Fitz now and didn't want to rush Petty into action. They'll play Petty when he's up to speed and not a minute before. It's not that hard to grasp

As if no one is screaming as is. 

And how Geno plays is absolutely on this regime. Its not like they couldn't release him. They opted to keep him, so him sucking is totally on the current regime.

And I agree, they'll play Petty when he's up to speed. NFL speed, that is. 

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