SMC Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 49 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: I'm a Kristaps fan but if he can swing him straight up for Jackson you have to take that deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, SMC said: Well, clearly Chad Ford isn't familiar with WRA&&%PTVCREDY advanced replacement variable retroregressed numbers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOJOTOWNSELL Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 kristaps took a step back this year......I you could parlay him into Fox, Monk (with our pick), and a future first rounder you would have to consider it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 hour ago, JOJOTOWNSELL said: kristaps took a step back this year......I you could parlay him into Fox, Monk (with our pick), and a future first rounder you would have to consider it No he didn't. Trading KP for 2 guys who couldn't even get Kentucky into the NCAA final? Monk is a midget for his position and Fox can't shoot. They're projects as much as anyone. You don't trade KP for prospects who are only 1 or 2 yrs younger than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Why is everyone so outraged? Phil should be exploring what he could get for KP there are teams out there with a lot of assets. If we can get a treasure trove go for it If the Celtics give us the #3 pick overall plus the Nets first round pick next year and the Lakers first round pick next year that's a great trade for the knicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 hour ago, SMC said: No he didn't. Trading KP for 2 guys who couldn't even get Kentucky into the NCAA final? Monk is a midget for his position and Fox can't shoot. They're projects as much as anyone. You don't trade KP for prospects who are only 1 or 2 yrs younger than him. If we get the 3 pick Phil is drafting Josh Jackson. Jackson has the potential to be a great wing player in the NBA like a Kawhi Leonard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 3 hours ago, JOJOTOWNSELL said: kristaps took a step back this year......I you could parlay him into Fox, Monk (with our pick), and a future first rounder you would have to consider it If we get a combination of Josh Jackson, Ntikilina or Monk or Smith, plus the Net and Laker first round picks next year sign me the f up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Tweets saying Knicks are asking an insanely high price which includes taking on Noah's deal. I'm starting to get the feeling this was just Phil ******* with people to see if they'd take some bait; which would be kind of ****ed up considering how strained the relationship with KP was starting to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 29 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Tweets saying Knicks are asking an insanely high price which includes taking on Noah's deal. I'm starting to get the feeling this was just Phil ******* with people to see if they'd take some bait; which would be kind of ****ed up considering how strained the relationship with KP was starting to get. KP needs to know his place though. Skipping team meetings and tweeting out Clippers. He's not above getting traded especially if the Celts offer us their treasure trove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 31 minutes ago, thadude said: KP needs to know his place though. Skipping team meetings and tweeting out Clippers. He's not above getting traded especially if the Celts offer us their treasure trove All of this sh*t is getting leaked by Melo and Porzingis' agents. They both want Phil fired. Phil isnt leaking this. Meeting with Markannen is just due diligence anyways- he's a good prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 hour ago, thadude said: KP needs to know his place though. Skipping team meetings and tweeting out Clippers. He's not above getting traded especially if the Celts offer us their treasure trove Yeah. Phil sure showed him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 hour ago, thadude said: KP needs to know his place though. Skipping team meetings and tweeting out Clippers. He's not above getting traded especially if the Celts offer us their treasure trove Also, how pumped are you for the E60 from Latvia this Sunday? Hopefully get some sweet boxing promo's from Mr. Unicorn too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 hour ago, thadude said: KP needs to know his place though. Skipping team meetings and tweeting out Clippers. He's not above getting traded especially if the Celts offer us their treasure trove Place? KP got what he wanted and brought harsh light on Phil's clueless ass. This doesn't hurt KP one bit. Janis already said KP is testing the market in 2 yrs. He'll get a mega deal from someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 2 hours ago, thadude said: If we get the 3 pick Phil is drafting Josh Jackson. Jackson has the potential to be a great wing player in the NBA like a Kawhi Leonard Jackson is a 6'8" prospect who disappeared in the NCAA tournament. He couldn't even do what Winslow did. You'd have to have your head examined if you'd give up KP for any pick in this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, SMC said: Place? KP got what he wanted and brought harsh light on Phil's clueless ass. This doesn't hurt KP one bit. Janis already said KP is testing the market in 2 yrs. He'll get a mega deal from someone. KP needs to worry about playing better. All of this other noise is irrelevant to his game. His perception of himself vs reality is all out of whack. Play a full season first at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 19 minutes ago, SMC said: You'd have to have your head examined if you'd give up KP for any pick in this draft. Well slice me up with some shallots and call me Ray Liotta in Hannibal, because I'd trade him for Fultz or Jackson most def. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SMC Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 25 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Well slice me up with some shallots and call me Ray Liotta in Hannibal, because I'd trade him for Fultz or Jackson most def. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 1 hour ago, SMC said: Place? KP got what he wanted and brought harsh light on Phil's clueless ass. This doesn't hurt KP one bit. Janis already said KP is testing the market in 2 yrs. He'll get a mega deal from someone. Knicks will be able to pay him $30 million more than any other team. The megadeal you refer to is us getting a bunch of picks and that's if he becomes a great player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 1 hour ago, SMC said: Jackson is a 6'8" prospect who disappeared in the NCAA tournament. He couldn't even do what Winslow did. You'd have to have your head examined if you'd give up KP for any pick in this draft. It's not 1995 anymore traditional big men are irrelevant. It's a PG and Wing league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 49 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Well slice me up with some shallots and call me Ray Liotta in Hannibal, because I'd trade him for Fultz or Jackson most def. Quick who's more valuable in today's nba a guard like Curry or Harden or a 25 and 10 Center like Cousins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, thadude said: Quick who's more valuable in today's nba a guard like Curry or Harden or a 25 and 10 Center like Cousins? Curry and Harden are because they're superstars and Cousins is no where near one. If Shaq or Duncan were 25 right now they'd be just as valuable. Towns, AD and Gobert are all highly valuable players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 33 minutes ago, SMC said: The monster offer is three first round picks from Boston. Phil was and still is fishing for it which is what he should do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Curry and Harden are because they're superstars and Cousins is no where near one. If Shaq or Duncan were 25 right now they'd be just as valuable. Towns, AD and Gobert are all highly valuable players. Cousins would be a top 5 player in the 90's. Today's rules favor Point Guards and perimeter players which is why ok players like Kyle Lowry and Derozen in Tornontto can win almost 60 games but Cousins and Anthony Davis can't make the 8th seed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, thadude said: Quick who's more valuable in today's nba a guard like Curry or Harden or a 25 and 10 Center like Cousins? Is this a serious question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Just now, Miss Lonelyhearts said: Is this a serious question? No it's rhetorical because the rule changes have made it a PG and Wing league I want KP on my team and I would only trade him for a monster offer but this is not the 90's there are 3-4 players in this draft who are better and more valuable going forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, thadude said: Cousins would be a top 5 player in the 90's. Today's rules favor Point Guards and perimeter players which is why ok players like Kyle Lowry and Derozen in Tornontto can win almost 60 games but Cousins and Anthony Davis can't make the 8th seed Cousins, besides being a total headcase, is an inefficient chucker plus turnover machine. He gets hyped because he puts up a high PPG and his moves look good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Cousins, besides being a total headcase, is an inefficient chucker plus turnover machine. He gets hyped because he puts up a high PPG and his moves look good. How many times has Anthony Davis made the playoffs? He's the best Center in the NBA Andre Drummond in Detroit is a wonderful Center yet the Pistons don't even have a shot in the weak East Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, thadude said: How many times has Anthony Davis made the playoffs? He's the best Center in the NBA Andre Drummond in Detroit is a wonderful Center yet the Pistons don't even have a shot in the weak East Davis has had issues staying healthy and his supporting cast is awful. Him and Towns are both on brutal rosters. Look at Utah as a team though, Gobert has made a massive impact there. Jokic in Denver too if you want to consider him a C. Marc Gasol too. sh*t, a prime Pau would still be awesome now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 43 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Davis has had issues staying healthy and his supporting cast is awful. Him and Towns are both on brutal rosters. Look at Utah as a team though, Gobert has made a massive impact there. Jokic in Denver too if you want to consider him a C. Marc Gasol too. sh*t, a prime Pau would still be awesome now. And in addition to all those already listed DeAndre Jordan has been in the top two in the league in wins produced for four straight years which is literally unheard of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 40 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Davis has had issues staying healthy and his supporting cast is awful. Him and Towns are both on brutal rosters. Look at Utah as a team though, Gobert has made a massive impact there. Jokic in Denver too if you want to consider him a C. Marc Gasol too. sh*t, a prime Pau would still be awesome now. Not only does Towns have Wiggins he has the best head coach in the NBA. Andre Drummond would have the Pistons in the eastern conference finals every in the 90's with an identical supporting cast he can't even win a playoff series now. Your next point is dreaming up hypotheticals I'm going to get pegged as a KP hater but I'm not I like him a lot. But Phil can't be blamed for chasing a treasure trove in draft picks from Boston especially when the 3 pick in this year's draft could easily be a more valuable player by himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Just now, Miss Lonelyhearts said: And in addition to all those already listed DeAndre Jordan has been in the top two in the league in wins Playing with Chris Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, thadude said: Not only does Towns have Wiggins he has the best head coach in the NBA. Andre Drummond would have the Pistons in the eastern conference finals every in the 90's with an identical supporting cast he can't even win a playoff series now. Your next point is dreaming up hypotheticals I'm going to get pegged as a KP hater but I'm not I like him a lot. But Phil can't be blamed for chasing a treasure trove in draft picks from Boston especially when the 3 pick in this year's draft could easily be a more valuable player by himself I dont dislike Porzingis, it's just the hype that's gotten insane. People in meltdown mode over potentially moving a guy who cant stay healthy or rebound for his size. His shooting numbers have been average. His potential is based off of his size, which is risky anyways. Not to mention his brother is his agent, ran off to Europe when the team told him not to etc. It's just been trending in a weird direction. Wiggins isnt good man. He takes a lot of shots and really cant shoot. Not to mention he doesnt give you much else. He fits into that big name, little value tier. sh*t look what Deangelo Russell was just moved for- nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: And in addition to all those already listed DeAndre Jordan has been in the top two in the league in wins produced for four straight years which is literally unheard of. Him too for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, thadude said: Playing with Chris Paul Right. It takes multiple good players to win 50+ games every year. Pair Paul with a healthy Davis or Towns you're going to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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