SMC Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: What's Isaac's wingspan? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Just now, SMC said: KP is not a traditional big. He's a stretch 5 perfectly made for the modern NBA. He's a 7'3" small ball 5. But besides that, KP is literally better than every player the Knicks could trade for in the top 4 picks. Only an idiot would trade a 21 yr old star. But hey, might as well wave the pompom for Phil. There are players in this draft who are going to have better careers than Porzingis. The same people acting like Porzingis is untradeable like Stephen A Smith bashed him two years ago when Phil drafted him. My pom poms are right here baby I'm secure in my manhood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: I'm baffled that people refer to him as a star already. There's nothing he's done that even remotely signals star yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Just now, SMC said: I would probably take Isaac over Jackson given the choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 minute ago, SMC said: Fairly arbitrary comparisons there. PPG- who cares. We need him to shoot efficiently and rebound....and most importantly play 75+ games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 Just now, thadude said: There are players in this draft who are going to have better careers than Porzingis. The same people acting like Porzingis is untradeable like Stephen A Smith bashed him two years ago when Phil drafted him. My pom poms are right here baby I'm secure in my manhood Every player in this draft is a prospect. KP is a productive 21 yr old. Huge difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: I'm baffled that people refer to him as a star already. There's nothing he's done that even remotely signals a star yet. The health, efficiency, rebounding and fouls are all trending in the wrong direction. SMC is right about KP having star potential. I agree on that. I just think in today's PG and Wing NBA a very good PG or Wing gets you more wins than a very good Center. Throw in a couple good players or picks and getting a package like that is a no brainer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Just now, thadude said: SMC is right about KP having star potential. I agree on that. I just think in today's PG and Wing NBA a very good PG or Wing gets you more wins than a very good Center. Throw in a couple good players or picks and getting a package like that is a no brainer He'll always have potential because of his height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 minute ago, SMC said: Every player in this draft is a prospect. KP is a productive 21 yr old. Huge difference. Okay and by that logic Jahlil Okafor > any player in this draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Just now, Matt39 said: He'll always have potential because of his height. No KP can absolutely play and I am a fan of his. But If the Celts offered 3 first round picks or Phoenix offered the 4 pick plus other first round picks and Devin Booker I'm sorry it's not out of the realm of logic to at least have that conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, thadude said: Okay and by that logic Jahlil Okafor > any player in this draft LOL. Okafor isn't productive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, thadude said: No KP can absolutely play and I am a fan of his. But If the Celts offered 3 first round picks or Phoenix offered the 4 pick plus other first round picks and Devin Booker I'm sorry it's not out of the realm of logic to at least have that conversation. Phoenix isn't offering multiple 1st rounders AND Booker. Let's talk real trade scenarios. There's no one worth trading for in a REALISTIC trade scenario. The NBA thinks Phil is an idiot as an exec. He's lost every trade he's made. They'll try to fleece him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 minute ago, SMC said: Phoenix isn't offering multiple 1st rounders AND Booker. Let's talk real trade scenarios. There's no one worth trading for in a REALISTIC trade scenario. The NBA thinks Phil is an idiot as an exec. He's lost every trade he's made. They'll try to fleece him. Yeah I know you're in the room an/or have the phones tapped. Booker and the 4 pick would be a very solid trade btw if it makes you feel better he has that coveted 7'0 wingspan and averaged 22 ppg last season (more than KP) and is only 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Ofcourse if Boston or Phoenix don't offer us fair value for Porzingis Phil could do something crazy and simply not make the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 minute ago, thadude said: Yeah I know you're in the room an/or have the phones tapped. Booker and the 4 pick would be a very solid trade btw if it makes you feel better he has that coveted 7'0 wingspan and averaged 22 ppg last season (more than KP) and is only 20. It was already reported that Phil spoke to Suns and asked for Booker, but Suns said no. Again, I'm saying realistic trade offers. Suns aren't offering booker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Just now, SMC said: It was already reported that Phil spoke to Suns and asked for Booker, but Suns said no. Again, I'm saying realistic trade offers. Suns aren't offering booker. If they don't then don't make the deal. You're outraged that Phil is even asking the question to them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, thadude said: If they don't then don't make the deal. You're outraged that Phil is even asking the question to them No, I'm not outraged Phil is asking. I'm outraged that the hypocritical old fool who is an utter failure as an executive is considering the only good move he's made. BTW, Shaq skipped an exit interview with Phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 minute ago, SMC said: No, I'm not outraged Phil is asking. I'm outraged that the hypocritical old fool who is an utter failure as an executive is considering the only good move he's made. BTW, Shaq skipped an exit interview with Phil. Yeah I know because Phil had assets up the ass when he took over as GM. It's not like the Knicks didn't trade a decade's worth of first round picks for Anthony. Phil is a good evaluator of young talent (KP, Hernangomez, Kuzminskas) give him all the first round picks he can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, thadude said: Yeah I know because Phil had assets up the ass when he took over as GM. It's not like the Knicks didn't trade a decade's worth of first round picks for Anthony. Phil is a good evaluator of young talent (KP, Hernangomez, Kuzminskas) give him all the first round picks he can get. Well, he's had 2 1st round picks and he traded one and now is trying to trade the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Are we are seriously going to trade this kid? Holy ****. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 My daughter is going to graduate from Kindergarten tomorrow, so nothing is going to ruin that. **** Phil. **** Dolan. **** the Knicks. It's just a game. Gives me more freedom in the fall anyway if I'm not interested in watching their games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, SMC said: My daughter is going to graduate from Kindergarten tomorrow, so nothing is going to ruin that. **** Phil. **** Dolan. **** the Knicks. It's just a game. Gives me more freedom in the fall anyway if I'm not interested in watching their games. I like Jackson a lot, but it's starting to sink in that the Knicks might move the one thing they have actually gotten right in like 20 years because of nothing more than the fact that he skipped an interview. That is just nuts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Btw Jayson Tatum has Lebron or Pippen-like potential. He's going to be better than KP and will be available at 3 or 4 so yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 38 minutes ago, thadude said: Btw Jayson Tatum has Lebron or Pippen-like potential. He's going to be better than KP and will be available at 3 or 4 so yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 49 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: I like Jackson a lot, but it's starting to sink in that the Knicks might move the one thing they have actually gotten right in like 20 years because of nothing more than the fact that he skipped an interview. That is just nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 9 hours ago, SMC said: Keep googling memes. Tatum is the best player in the draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 If I understand the parameters of what Jackson wants via trade, we'd be giving up Porzingas and getting a top 4 pick, and a good player, plus keeping our 7th pick? Right? I mean, given the nature of this draft class, that's not really terrible. If you want a young nucleus to grow together, then something like Josh Jackson, Frank Ntilinka and an established player could really give us a jolt towards roster overhaul. How the eff do we get rid of Melo, though...? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Spurs are shopping Lamarcus Aldridge trying to get a top 10 pick. How is that even possible Lamarcus Aldridge is a Center Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 20 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: If I understand the parameters of what Jackson wants via trade, we'd be giving up Porzingas and getting a top 4 pick, and a good player, plus keeping our 7th pick? Right? I mean, given the nature of this draft class, that's not really terrible. If you want a young nucleus to grow together, then something like Josh Jackson, Frank Ntilinka and an established player could really give us a jolt towards roster overhaul. How the eff do we get rid of Melo, though...? And if we don't get a package like what you're talking about all we have to do is nothing and keep Porzingis This is a great draft. Poppovich is offering Aldridge to try to get a top 10 pick that speaks volumes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Integrity28 said: If I understand the parameters of what Jackson wants via trade, we'd be giving up Porzingas and getting a top 4 pick, and a good player, plus keeping our 7th pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 So the Knicks dont own their 2nd round pick this year because of the Bargnani trade. Good grief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOJOTOWNSELL Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I'm hearing kp to suns for Bledsoe, chriss, and number 4 pick....would literally jump for joy if phil was able to pull this off....the best player in the deal could end up being Chriss down the road 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RutgersJetFan Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 CBS is reporting that Boston is trying to swing a trade with Minny for the #7 overall, which would replace the request for next year's Brooklyn pick. Original demand from Phil was insane. #3 overall, next year's BK pick, Crowder, and Jaylen Brown. Basically the entire Nets trade AND Crowder. Woof. this year’s No. 3 overall pick, next year’s Brooklyn pick (owned by Boston), Jaylen Brown and Jae Crowder in exchange for Porzingis. Read more at: http://nesn.com/2017/06/nba-rumors-heres-what-knicks-want-from-celtics-in-kristaps-porzingis-trade/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 This is encouraging. But that teams are surprised that Phil's asking price for KP is ridiculous is telling. It means that teams think that they can fleece Phil. Ainge is crazy if he thinks he can get KP for only 1 draft pick. That's is how you appropriately value such a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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