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SALARY CAP dept. : which Jets could be gone after this season to create cap space ? ? ?

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@DarrylSlater  With the Jets projected to be at or over the cap to start 2017, what names are you expecting to see let go ?

There are several moves the Jets could make next offseason to create salary cap space. Cornerback Darrelle Revis has a $15.3 million cap number for 2017, so he could be asked to take a pay cut. His base salary next year is $13 million. Just $6 million of that is guaranteed. If the Jets cut Revis and he signs elsewhere, they would receive offset cap credit based on that $6 million, depending on how much Revis gets from his next team.

Another pay-cut candidate: left tackle Ryan Clady, who has a $10.5 million cap hit and $10 million non-guaranteed base salary. The Jets would save $10 million against the cap by cutting him. Some other potential cuts the Jets could make, depending on how the rest of the season unfolds: free safety Marcus Gilchrist ($5.375 million cap savings), middle linebacker David Harris ($6.5 million savings), right tackle Breno Giacomini ($4.5 million savings), and kicker Nick Folk ($3 million savings). 

rest of above article  : 

>     http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2016/10/which_jets_could_be_gone_after_this_season_to_crea.html#incart_river_index

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I think Clady gets restructured since the contract is not guaranteed along with Revis - moving to safety?, since he has fallen off a cliff for whatever reason. Skrine needs to be talked about a paycut since he is not worth 8 million next year. Think they definitely need to get rid of Gilchrist, Harris and Giacomini as for various reasons they are underperforming, overpaid or a combination of both. I think there is no way you get rid of Folk. He has been pretty reliable. It will be interesting to see if sheldon richardson will be used as trade bait for draft picks since 2017 is the last year of his contract.

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Revis, Richardson, Skrine and perhaps Marshall or Decker, to name the obvious. Breno and Clady are also on the list. We simply don't have a replacement for Mangold, thanks past GMs

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Several no brainers, in my opinion:

Gilchrist -- $5.4MM savings

Giacomini -- $4.5MM savings

Jarvis Jenkins -- $3MM savings

Henderson -- $2.75MM savings

If you can get a day 2 pick for Sheldon, that would be another $8MM savings.  After seeing what our run defense looked like without Harris last week, I think I would prefer to restructure him rather than cut him outright.  He would have been on my list before last week.

As for Jarvis Jenkins, I am hoping we just cut him within the next week -- I think we would net a 4th round comp pick for losing Snacks if we release Jenkins before the trade deadline.  As it stands now, we do not appear to be in line for any comp picks. 

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33 minutes ago, Freemanm said:

Revis, Richardson, Skrine and perhaps Marshall or Decker, to name the obvious. Breno and Clady are also on the list. We simply don't have a replacement for Mangold, thanks past GMs

Skrine can't be cut now and save any money. They restructured his deal to make room this year. We're stuck with that terrible player for at least another year. 

It also makes zero sense Breno is even still on the team. They should have cut him this offseason rather than PUP'd him. All of this cap mismanagement does not give me faith in Mac. 

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1 hour ago, Gas2No99 said:

This was covered in the other "Reset" Thread, but the Jets are perfectly fine in regards to the Cap space in 2017 due to the clever and pragmatic contracts that MacCags and J. Davidson drew up. There are no ball&chain contracts that can't be cut without major ramifications anymore. As stated in another $hitmini article, Vets are re-signed to really 2-3 year deals that can be terminated once that player no longer validates the later (and inflated salary) while we keep stocking Depth, and hopefully talent, via the draft. Revis, Harris, Gilchrist, Clady, Marshall, and even WIlk's extension are short term Guaranteed deals that give the Jets an out. Only the ReNegotiated Carpenter & Skrine deals added weight (years to feasibly cut w/lil' Dead $) and that was to create room to squeeze in Fitzy for 2016 - ANOTHER underrated move in that the Jets DID NOT capitulate to a MULTI-YR deal that would have saddle-bagged us ala Tanny. It's part of the "Competitive Rebuild" that is a delicate balance of building a team through the draft and signing complimentary veteran FAs who are "bridges" until the draft picks develop and replace them accordingly. It's having your cake and eating it too and that's BECAUSE we're in the 10 Pro Sports team NYC market competing for fans and media where the  DEMAND is a team be competitive or they become lost and - Woody's BIGGEST FEAR - IRRELEVANT. 

So we'll be FINE Cap-wise in 2017. I believe there is a SOLID plan in place and the REAL HONUS is on Mac to HIT on his picks. 

 

Mac has built young & cheap depth, which has been lacking since 2010, but is YET to show a solid draft "hit" besides the given of Leo Williams. Of the 2015 class: Maulden, Petty, & Simon have given us badly needed depth while WR Smith and OL Harrison have been snake eyes. This year he essentially selected 3 starters in Lee, Jenkins, and Lachlan Edwards with 2 Physical Specimen "Wildcards" in QB Hackenberg & RT Shell. And then there was the JACKPOT with landing 3 talented, yet developing, WR talents in Peake, Marshall, & Anderson.

 

 

I honestly think Burris was still a good pick and that he'll come around

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Notes- I actually still like Skrine, he's better in the slot, he did have the worst game of his career last week

 

i like Mac a lot still- I think most GM's really need 5 years to bear real fruit 

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Unless Revis rebounds - make him take a pay cut or cut him - starting to remind me of cromartie a lil bit and Clady - restructure or gone. (I have a feeling one of these guys will get cut tho to free up space) 

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16 hours ago, BklynJetsFan85 said:

Unless Revis rebounds - make him take a pay cut or cut him - starting to remind me of cromartie a lil bit and Clady - restructure or gone. (I have a feeling one of these guys will get cut tho to free up space) 

Revis is gone. I honestly think another team, like the Cowboys, will be dumb enough to be willing to pay him $7m per year

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20 minutes ago, Freemanm said:

Revis is gone. I honestly think another team, like the Cowboys, will be dumb enough to be willing to pay him $7m per year

The question is whether Revis basically chooses to do nothing for $6mm or play NFL football for $7mm.  If the Jets really have an offset right on the $6mm, that was very good negotiating.

I can see that going either way.

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How Jets GM Mike Maccagnan can create $50 million in cap room

SANTA CLARA, Calif. -- Greetings from the West Coast. Our New York Jetsquestion of the week deals with looming salary-cap cuts -- a hot button issue:

@RichCimini: Right now, the Jets have about $166 million committed toward what is projected as a $166 million cap, according to overthecap.com. That's no breathing room. Ah, but that number is deceiving because general manager Mike Maccagnan can clear serious cap space (your words, John) by dumping some veterans.

If they cut the four players you mention, they'd clear $30.4 million in cap space. Because Brandon Marshall, Nick Mangold and Breno Giacomini are entering the final year of their contracts, the acceleration charge would be minimal -- only $625,000. Darrelle Revis is in a different category because he still has three years left, including a $6 million guarantee in 2017. So they'd get stuck with that on their cap.

Let's take it further. If they cut David Harris and Ryan Clady and trade Sheldon Richardson, there's another $24.6 million in savings. That would bring them up to $55 million in cap room, which would create tremendous flexibility in free agency.

It might sound wonderful, but you'd have a roster with a lot of holes. You just can't cut everybody without having a plan to replace those players. Maccagnan will have to make value judgments, such as: Do they trust Wesley Johnson to replace Mangold? Is Brandon Shell or Brent Qvale ready to succeed Giacomini? Revis isn't having a great year, but where's his heir apparent? Can you squeeze another year out of Harris if he's only a two-down linebacker?

Clady is a goner, so that's a $10 million savings. But you get the point; there has to be a strategy. They can also save money by reworking some of these contracts, which I could see happening with Mangold. I think Richardson will get traded, but his value is so low that might be wishful thinking.

The bottom line is, yes, there will be a lot of bloodshed in the offseason.

>     http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/65512/how-jets-gm-mike-maccagnan-can-create-50-million-in-cap-room

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This is easy. Get rid of everyone! This team has sucked so badly, none of them should be allowed to come back and collect their overinflated paychecks! I would have no aversion to starting over as an expansion team so to speak. We are going to suck regardless for the next 3-5 years so what the hell. Rebuild it the right way for once.

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Mangold, Gilchrist, Breno, Clady -- gone

 

I actually think Revis might not get cut.  It's like a $7 mil in dead cap space hit if he's cut.  Give him one more shot he's been hurt all season

 

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21 minutes ago, kelly said:

How Jets GM Mike Maccagnan can create $50 million in cap room

SANTA CLARA, Calif. -- Greetings from the West Coast. Our New York Jetsquestion of the week deals with looming salary-cap cuts -- a hot button issue:

@RichCimini: Right now, the Jets have about $166 million committed toward what is projected as a $166 million cap, according to overthecap.com. That's no breathing room. Ah, but that number is deceiving because general manager Mike Maccagnan can clear serious cap space (your words, John) by dumping some veterans.

If they cut the four players you mention, they'd clear $30.4 million in cap space. Because Brandon Marshall, Nick Mangold and Breno Giacomini are entering the final year of their contracts, the acceleration charge would be minimal -- only $625,000. Darrelle Revis is in a different category because he still has three years left, including a $6 million guarantee in 2017. So they'd get stuck with that on their cap.

Let's take it further. If they cut David Harris and Ryan Clady and trade Sheldon Richardson, there's another $24.6 million in savings. That would bring them up to $55 million in cap room, which would create tremendous flexibility in free agency.

It might sound wonderful, but you'd have a roster with a lot of holes. You just can't cut everybody without having a plan to replace those players. Maccagnan will have to make value judgments, such as: Do they trust Wesley Johnson to replace Mangold? Is Brandon Shell or Brent Qvale ready to succeed Giacomini? Revis isn't having a great year, but where's his heir apparent? Can you squeeze another year out of Harris if he's only a two-down linebacker?

Clady is a goner, so that's a $10 million savings. But you get the point; there has to be a strategy. They can also save money by reworking some of these contracts, which I could see happening with Mangold. I think Richardson will get traded, but his value is so low that might be wishful thinking.

The bottom line is, yes, there will be a lot of bloodshed in the offseason.

>     http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/65512/how-jets-gm-mike-maccagnan-can-create-50-million-in-cap-room

I thought Qvale/Ijalana at RT (not LT for Ijalana) looked semi decent when the year started

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We're obviously not going to be good next year, none of them are part of our future...why not ditch all of these guys? Marshall has trade value (some is better than none), Decker and Sheldon will as well. They're not part of our future, get what you can for them while you can. Let's do a rebuild the right way. No time to get sentimental about Mangold, this is a business, not a retirement party. I loved him just as much as the next guy, but he's not worth this pay and he's constantly injured now. He's no help to this team at this point, sorry.

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Jets' big-money players have failed, and now it's time to cash out

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Todd Bowles delivered a rather succinct state-of-the-team Sunday. He did it in 15 words :

"Special teams have been disappointing. The defense has been disappointing. The offense has been disappointing."

Yep, that pretty much covers the New York Jets' season.

One of the big reasons why they're 4-10 is because their high-priced veterans have disappointed, setting the stage for what promises to be a bloody offseason. It's time to rebuild, which means parting ways with some household names.

The 10 highest-paid players (based on 2016 earnings) combined for only five touchdowns, four sacks, one interception and 10 touchdown passes. Total bill: $93.4 million. Of the 10, only two are locks to return next year -- Muhammad Wilkerson and Darron Lee.

Here you go :

1. Wilkerson ($22 million): He has gone six straight games without a sack, his longest slump since his rookie year, 2011. His total is only 2.5, one less than run-stuffer Steve McLendon, who hasn't played in four weeks. It's an understatement to say Wilkerson hasn't lived up to his $86 million contract, but they can't cut him because his 2017 salary ($14.75 million) is fully guaranteed and the cap hit would be prohibitive. Plus, he's still only 27; it would be premature to give up on him.

2. CB Darrelle Revis ($17 million): Thanks for the memories. No longer capable of being a shutdown corner, Revis, 31, has to go. The economics aren't great -- they owe him $6 million guaranteed in 2017 -- but football overrules the money in this case. Write the check and move on. His inability to play press-man has had a sweeping impact on the defense. During Saturday night's telecast, NBC analyst Tony Dungy seemed taken aback by how much cushion Revis was giving to receivers. Revis has said he's willing to play safety. Why would they move him to safety if he doesn't tackle as a corner? Look at the bright side: They'd save $9.3 million on the cap by cutting him.

3. QB Ryan Fitzpatrick ($12 million): He has 15 interceptions, the same number as last season. The problem is, he reached 15 with 210 fewer attempts and there are two games to go. His contract automatically voids after the Super Bowl and he will be a free agent. Fitzpatrick, 34, held the organization hostage for six months, finally getting the money he wanted. There's no way to determine whether the contract dispute made an impact on the season, but it certainly set a bad tone. He'll be playing elsewhere next year.

4. WR Brandon Marshall ($9.5 million): His season hit rock bottom Saturday night. He was targeted 11 times and had only one reception, the lowest receiving percentage in the league this season (minimum: 10 targets) and the lowest by a Jets receiver in 10 years, according to ESPN Stats & Information research. Don't forget: The Miami Dolphins played without their top corner, Byron Maxwell, for almost the entire game. Marshall might be able to help a contender next year, but a 33-year-old receiver doesn't fit a rebuilding program, not with a $7.5 million salary. Maybe they can trade him for a late-round pick.

5. LB David Harris ($7.5 million): Like Revis, Harris is a future Ring of Honor member. He's still a factor as a box linebacker, but he doesn't have the pass-coverage skills to be a three-down linebacker anymore. Still, he's worth keeping at a reduced salary because he's the kind of player you want in your locker room.

6. LT Ryan Clady ($6.6 million): He lasted eight games before breaking down, so the final tab was $825,000 per game. There's a $10 million option for next year, money he'll never see from the Jets.

7. CB Buster Skrine ($6.5 million): They took him out of his comfort zone -- slot corner -- and tried to make him an every-down player. The result: A sub-par season. Skrine has two years left on his deal, but his $8.5 million cap charge makes him vulnerable.

8. WR Eric Decker ($6.5 million): The Jets got only three games out of Decker before he went down with shoulder and hip injuries. His cap charge next year is a pricey $8.75 million and he turns 30 before next season. Age, injury and a high cap number usually spell doom, but it wouldn't make sense to cut him and Marshall. Decker stays, assuming his rehab goes well.

9. C Nick Mangold ($6.2 million): This is a tough call. He, too, will have his name in the ROH some day, but his $9.1 million cap charge next year is prohibitive. Mangold, who turns 33 in a few weeks, must take a pay cut or be gone. It wouldn't be a shock if he retires.

10. Lee ($6.1 million): He's had a so-so rookie year, but he's considered part of the solution, not the problem.

>      http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/65753/jets-big-money-players-have-failed-and-now-its-time-to-cash-out

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Obvious cuts - Fitz, Forte, Clady, Mangold

 

Possible Cuts - Decker, Harris, Revis

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Harris is a good run defender but horrible in pass coverage. 

 

Cut him and sign Jamie Collins

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On October 22, 2016 at 1:20 PM, CrazyCarl40 said:

Skrine can't be cut now and save any money. They restructured his deal to make room this year. We're stuck with that terrible player for at least another year. 

It also makes zero sense Breno is even still on the team. They should have cut him this offseason rather than PUP'd him. All of this cap mismanagement does not give me faith in Mac. 

Skrine has had a terrible year but a lot of that I think is the fault of bad coaching, 0 pass rush and overall frustration

 

If we get rid of this God-Awful coaching staff and somehow add a pass rusher in the draft he can bounce back next season

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On December 10, 2016 at 10:28 AM, drdetroit said:

I thought Qvale/Ijalana at RT (not LT for Ijalana) looked semi decent when the year started

They did.  Three way competition with Shell next year 

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Kudos to Mack and his team for getting contracts like this signed... The guys made a lot of guaranteed money but the structures are going to allow the Jets to reset and build around the new young depth they've brought in these last couple of years.

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