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I've noticed that after this 2-5 start, even after a win the reaction is like, meh. Jet fans really don't care anymore & it's completely understandable and I truly hope that Woody is seeing the same thing & lets Macc do what he needs to do and that's getting looks at as many young players as we can. Even players on the practice squad.

The Fitz Geno debates are really just frustration that we have no other choice until Petty is ready. Any Jet fan under any illusion that we're seeing any type of progression at QB, Oline, or secondary are fooling themselves.

We have zero young studs at CB, Oline, Safety, RB, TE. That's an awful lot of holes. Jet fans might be passionate & sometimes unruly but I think most fans are realists and have just come to the obvious realization that the only way this team is going to get better is to cut the overpriced fat, continue using the draft & show some patience. 

I could care less about Geno because he's just not our future so winning a few games against teams just slightly less sh*tty than us means nothing to me. I really like our young WR core & it would be great if we could draft a stud RB to help them out. So far we have 2 young QBs going forward, maybe we should try to add another like Mike Glennon. But our future means nothing without finding a QB to move forward with. I'll continue to watch but like most of us today, I'm really just interested in individual growth of guys like, Leo, Lee, Burris, Jenkins, Enunwa, Anderson, Peake, J. Marshall, and especially waiting to see if Petty can play. I doubt we'll see Hack unless he's mopping up for a 5-9 season the last 2 games.

Even though I wanted them to win today, I understand it's just practice for our younger players to get better & learn what it takes to win in this league. The Jets are just a complete afterthought by most NFL fans, and why not, we're no threat to compete, we have no star power, and we might be one of the most boring teams to watch in the league. So with all that said, if we can see that how is it possible that Macc doesn't see that & communicate it to the owner of the team? Can Woody really be that stupid? 

So Woody, most of us Jet fans are just asking you to please stop with the band aids, you can't fool us anymore. Signing the Leonard Marshalls & Ronnie Lotts of the world didn't help us years ago and doesn't help now. And stop overpaying our own aging veterans & do what the teams that are successful do, let them walk & let some other stupid franchise overpay them. 

So put a plan together. Amass more draft picks. Keep taking stabs at QBs until we find one, play the youngsters, get Petty in there as soon as possible so he can be evaluated and I'll continue to watch looking for improvement as these young players try to mesh a team. I've waited 48 years, what's a few more? What you've done in the past doesn't work. It's time to rebuild with Macc & his scouts. Let's find some football players to keep adding to what you've started. I'm indifferent right now, let's be bold & give Jet fans something to look forward to at least.

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2 minutes ago, ASH1962 said:

Can we just enjoy a victory for one night before we dissect every single aspect of what is or isn't wrong with the team? After all, victorious Sundays have been a rarity around here lately.

Dissect every aspect? Lol. Dissect what? 2 crappy teams going nowhere fast. I like to win, I'm only dissecting the play of our young guys, it's really the only thing that matters going forward. The only other thing I'm watching is Bowles coaching decisions. He doesn't have a great team or a decent QB so I want to see how hard these young guys play for him & if they can continue to get better. Shame Lee got hurt last week.

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too much losing my souls' worn thin.....

I hear this.  I took my daughter for driving lessons after the lol punt fumble TD thing, and when I came back and fitz was in I was like, lol

I didn't even bother with a game ball thread for the first time in like, years. 

I'm numb.  It's my only defense.  I can't imagine what it's like to be around 21 and totally into this team. Back then it took me days to get over a loss.

Now I'm like, here we go, half way through the cycle, wonder what the next coach and QB will be like

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Great post OP!

We are just burnt out - textbook burnt out.  We can't get off this hamster wheel of mediocrity.  We keep making changes but the final result is always the same.

 

I agree, the ONLY thing I care about in 2016 is trying to develop our young guys to find some hope to cling to.

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It really just comes down to the fact that I've seen this movie a billion times already. The coach is garbage, we need a quarterback, the GM probably doesn't know how to find one, and the owner seems like he's scheming behind the scenes. Again and again and again and again. 30 years of this already. It doesn't even affect me anymore. It's not saddening or maddening, just par for the course. It would be nice to just have a period of time for more than a year or two where we didn't have the same problems popping back up and it doesn't look like that's ever going to happen.

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4 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

It really just comes down to the fact that I've seen this movie a billion times already. The coach is garbage, we need a quarterback, the GM probably doesn't know how to find one, and the owner seems like he's scheming behind the scenes. Again and again and again and again. 30 years of this already. It doesn't even affect me anymore. It's not saddening or maddening, just par for the course. It would be nice to just have a period of time for more than a year or two where we didn't have the same problems popping back up and it doesn't look like that's ever going to happen.

Exactly. I realized in the midst of the win today we'll probably again finish right around 7-9, which is the worst thing a franchise can do (especially one that doesn't have the future at QB yet), and I didn't care. I just can't muster any energy to feel good OR bad. Not sure I will again until we can acquire at least a serviceable QB.

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10 minutes ago, JetPotato said:

Exactly. I realized in the midst of the win today we'll probably again finish right around 7-9, which is the worst thing a franchise can do (especially one that doesn't have the future at QB yet), and I didn't care. I just can't muster any energy to feel good OR bad. Not sure I will again until we can acquire at least a serviceable QB.

Right where I am too, man. Winning today sucked.  Meaningless and will contribute to robbing the Jets of yet another chance to draft a franchise QB.  I have been drained of all emotion to support this franchise. 

Find a QB. Find a QB. Find a QB.  And stop wasting our f*#¤ing time.

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18 minutes ago, SickJetFan said:

Hmmm good therapy. ..can I open up too?

Was thinking of buying a convertible, large amount of viagra and pulling an Al pacing scent of a woman kinda finality

Whose coming with me.....

I think your in the wrong forums

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Had we lost today the season would most definitely be over.  However, we are no at 2-5 with the very soft part of the schedule coming up.  If we are coached correctly we have the talent to beat any of our upcoming opponents.  Coached correctly means playing a 3-4 defence and playing the right man at QB.  

So, I'm hoping Bowles has learned a little something with today's win, and I'm not throwing in to towel on this season as long as we keep winning.  Winning=momentum=winning. There is an outside shot at 10-6.  It's up to Bowles to coach.....both personnel and scheme.  If Bowles continues to sh!t the bed be may not be back next year.  Today he finally looked like the 2015 version of himself.  Now it's up to him to maintain it.        

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12 hours ago, Jetster said:

I've noticed that after this 2-5 start, even after a win the reaction is like, meh. Jet fans really don't care anymore & it's completely understandable and I truly hope that Woody is seeing the same thing & lets Macc do what he needs to do and that's getting looks at as many young players as we can. Even players on the practice squad.

The Fitz Geno debates are really just frustration that we have no other choice until Petty is ready. Any Jet fan under any illusion that we're seeing any type of progression at QB, Oline, or secondary are fooling themselves.

We have zero young studs at CB, Oline, Safety, RB, TE. That's an awful lot of holes. Jet fans might be passionate & sometimes unruly but I think most fans are realists and have just come to the obvious realization that the only way this team is going to get better is to cut the overpriced fat, continue using the draft & show some patience. 

I could care less about Geno because he's just not our future so winning a few games against teams just slightly less sh*tty than us means nothing to me. I really like our young WR core & it would be great if we could draft a stud RB to help them out. So far we have 2 young QBs going forward, maybe we should try to add another like Mike Glennon. But our future means nothing without finding a QB to move forward with. I'll continue to watch but like most of us today, I'm really just interested in individual growth of guys like, Leo, Lee, Burris, Jenkins, Enunwa, Anderson, Peake, J. Marshall, and especially waiting to see if Petty can play. I doubt we'll see Hack unless he's mopping up for a 5-9 season the last 2 games.

Even though I wanted them to win today, I understand it's just practice for our younger players to get better & learn what it takes to win in this league. The Jets are just a complete afterthought by most NFL fans, and why not, we're no threat to compete, we have no star power, and we might be one of the most boring teams to watch in the league. So with all that said, if we can see that how is it possible that Macc doesn't see that & communicate it to the owner of the team? Can Woody really be that stupid? 

So Woody, most of us Jet fans are just asking you to please stop with the band aids, you can't fool us anymore. Signing the Leonard Marshalls & Ronnie Lotts of the world didn't help us years ago and doesn't help now. And stop overpaying our own aging veterans & do what the teams that are successful do, let them walk & let some other stupid franchise overpay them. 

So put a plan together. Amass more draft picks. Keep taking stabs at QBs until we find one, play the youngsters, get Petty in there as soon as possible so he can be evaluated and I'll continue to watch looking for improvement as these young players try to mesh a team. I've waited 48 years, what's a few more? What you've done in the past doesn't work. It's time to rebuild with Macc & his scouts. Let's find some football players to keep adding to what you've started. I'm indifferent right now, let's be bold & give Jet fans something to look forward to at least.

I think Jets fans should not think about the Super Bowl or the playoffs and just enjoy each individual victory for what it is. 

This should be a happy forum right now. We just beat a team we haven't beaten since 1997.

Instead we have Fitz and Geno factions mud slinging each other. 

It happened last year. 10 wins devalued by 1 loss. That doesn't seem equal to me.

Jets fans need to enjoy the individual wins instead of acting like they are just pit stops on the way.

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Totally agree on the sentiment.  I go to the games and just enjoy the tailgating/spending time w/ friends.  Not wasting time staying home and watching them on TV anymore, just doesn't bring me any joy.  Right now I'd say I'm relegated to the simple pleasures in life like butter in my ass, lollipops in my mouth.  That's just me though.

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12 hours ago, Jetster said:

I've noticed that after this 2-5 start, even after a win the reaction is like, meh. Jet fans really don't care anymore & it's completely understandable and I truly hope that Woody is seeing the same thing & lets Macc do what he needs to do and that's getting looks at as many young players as we can. Even players on the practice squad.

The Fitz Geno debates are really just frustration that we have no other choice until Petty is ready. Any Jet fan under any illusion that we're seeing any type of progression at QB, Oline, or secondary are fooling themselves.

We have zero young studs at CB, Oline, Safety, RB, TE. That's an awful lot of holes. Jet fans might be passionate & sometimes unruly but I think most fans are realists and have just come to the obvious realization that the only way this team is going to get better is to cut the overpriced fat, continue using the draft & show some patience. 

I could care less about Geno because he's just not our future so winning a few games against teams just slightly less sh*tty than us means nothing to me. I really like our young WR core & it would be great if we could draft a stud RB to help them out. So far we have 2 young QBs going forward, maybe we should try to add another like Mike Glennon. But our future means nothing without finding a QB to move forward with. I'll continue to watch but like most of us today, I'm really just interested in individual growth of guys like, Leo, Lee, Burris, Jenkins, Enunwa, Anderson, Peake, J. Marshall, and especially waiting to see if Petty can play. I doubt we'll see Hack unless he's mopping up for a 5-9 season the last 2 games.

Even though I wanted them to win today, I understand it's just practice for our younger players to get better & learn what it takes to win in this league. The Jets are just a complete afterthought by most NFL fans, and why not, we're no threat to compete, we have no star power, and we might be one of the most boring teams to watch in the league. So with all that said, if we can see that how is it possible that Macc doesn't see that & communicate it to the owner of the team? Can Woody really be that stupid? 

So Woody, most of us Jet fans are just asking you to please stop with the band aids, you can't fool us anymore. Signing the Leonard Marshalls & Ronnie Lotts of the world didn't help us years ago and doesn't help now. And stop overpaying our own aging veterans & do what the teams that are successful do, let them walk & let some other stupid franchise overpay them. 

So put a plan together. Amass more draft picks. Keep taking stabs at QBs until we find one, play the youngsters, get Petty in there as soon as possible so he can be evaluated and I'll continue to watch looking for improvement as these young players try to mesh a team. I've waited 48 years, what's a few more? What you've done in the past doesn't work. It's time to rebuild with Macc & his scouts. Let's find some football players to keep adding to what you've started. I'm indifferent right now, let's be bold & give Jet fans something to look forward to at least.

RB and TE don't matter... They have a decent option at RB, not a stud but who cares...

The problem is CBs and LBs as it has been. They are consistantly getting beat on corner and flat routes. The deep balls are also a concern, they are in position but can't make a play. Sure Oline is an issue too.. but Ryan is just missing open WRs or Marshall drops another ball

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55 minutes ago, jmat321 said:

Totally agree on the sentiment.  I go to the games and just enjoy the tailgating/spending time w/ friends.  Not wasting time staying home and watching them on TV anymore, just doesn't bring me any joy.  Right now I'd say I'm relegated to the simple pleasures in life like butter in my ass, lollipops in my mouth.  That's just me though.

Butter in the ass....mmmm....I miss those carefree days with dad....

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52 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said:

I mean Beningo and Roberts started with this game and the least talked about part about this game?

The fact that they won the game.

If that's the attitude, then just skip the regular season 

You must be quite young.  The Jets haven't had time to turn you over to the dark side yet.

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15 hours ago, Larz said:

too much losing my souls' worn thin.....

I hear this.  I took my daughter for driving lessons after the lol punt fumble TD thing, and when I came back and fitz was in I was like, lol

I didn't even bother with a game ball thread for the first time in like, years. 

I'm numb.  It's my only defense.  I can't imagine what it's like to be around 21 and totally into this team. Back then it took me days to get over a loss.

Now I'm like, here we go, half way through the cycle, wonder what the next coach and QB will be like

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I'm 21 and I still cry at night over the week 17 loss at Buffalo.

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I've never cared less then I do this season. I went back to sleep after the botched punt 5 minutes in and didn't give a crap at all I missed the big comeback. I'm sure they'll finish 8-8 to screw up draft position but I just really don't care. Maybe I'll pay attention if one of the young QB's get in but until then it's a waste of my time and I've given them enough over the years.

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I don't want to come across like a rose colored glasses wearing optimist, butt those rooting for a lose out season and a high pick need to remember some of the crappy picks this team has made with even first rounders the last few years.

And what if the Jets win with Petty at the helm?  That would be sweet.

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It's funny because now that I'm 40 I've spent most of my adult fandom on message boards like this one. In my early 20's I was ravenous. Losses were brutal. Just brutal. I would rant and rave on sites at the older folks who were in the position I am now. I had season tickets for 5 years, never missed a game.

Now, honestly, it's not that I love them any less. It's just that I see the signs a mile away. Going into this season we were presented with 2 possibilities-Fitz reverting back to the sh*tty player he's always been, or Fitz potentially becoming the first late career bloomer since Gannon. My 20 year old self would be all over the site with posts on how Fitz would take us to the promised land. Even in today's situation I'd be harping about how we still have a chance. My 40 year old self knows better. My 40 year old self knows that until we have a true franchise QB everything is just a effort in futility. I knew Fitz would bomb. We've seen this story before. Petty will bomb, and Hack will bomb next. We don't get lucky with projects and 4th round picks. And further to that point I can assure you we will likely pass on a potential franchise QB because the FO will believe they have their guy. Then they'll be fired, a new regime will come in wanting to make their mark and win right away to appease and angry fan base and we'll end up with some other retread half ass FA QB that'll win just enough with us to recycle the same thing again.


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10 hours ago, peebag said:

Can you imagine how bad Ravens fans are feeling today?

 

"Dude, we just got beat by, by........THE JETS!!!!"

The mother Fukk in, gosh darn JETS is what they are saying.   BUT they have 2 Super Bowls in their recent history.

i would kill for one. 

I haven't been this dejected in a long time......   in 95, 96  I was pretty down, this feels like that. 

 

 

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