Jetster Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I've noticed that after this 2-5 start, even after a win the reaction is like, meh. Jet fans really don't care anymore & it's completely understandable and I truly hope that Woody is seeing the same thing & lets Macc do what he needs to do and that's getting looks at as many young players as we can. Even players on the practice squad. The Fitz Geno debates are really just frustration that we have no other choice until Petty is ready. Any Jet fan under any illusion that we're seeing any type of progression at QB, Oline, or secondary are fooling themselves. We have zero young studs at CB, Oline, Safety, RB, TE. That's an awful lot of holes. Jet fans might be passionate & sometimes unruly but I think most fans are realists and have just come to the obvious realization that the only way this team is going to get better is to cut the overpriced fat, continue using the draft & show some patience. I could care less about Geno because he's just not our future so winning a few games against teams just slightly less sh*tty than us means nothing to me. I really like our young WR core & it would be great if we could draft a stud RB to help them out. So far we have 2 young QBs going forward, maybe we should try to add another like Mike Glennon. But our future means nothing without finding a QB to move forward with. I'll continue to watch but like most of us today, I'm really just interested in individual growth of guys like, Leo, Lee, Burris, Jenkins, Enunwa, Anderson, Peake, J. Marshall, and especially waiting to see if Petty can play. I doubt we'll see Hack unless he's mopping up for a 5-9 season the last 2 games. Even though I wanted them to win today, I understand it's just practice for our younger players to get better & learn what it takes to win in this league. The Jets are just a complete afterthought by most NFL fans, and why not, we're no threat to compete, we have no star power, and we might be one of the most boring teams to watch in the league. So with all that said, if we can see that how is it possible that Macc doesn't see that & communicate it to the owner of the team? Can Woody really be that stupid? So Woody, most of us Jet fans are just asking you to please stop with the band aids, you can't fool us anymore. Signing the Leonard Marshalls & Ronnie Lotts of the world didn't help us years ago and doesn't help now. And stop overpaying our own aging veterans & do what the teams that are successful do, let them walk & let some other stupid franchise overpay them. So put a plan together. Amass more draft picks. Keep taking stabs at QBs until we find one, play the youngsters, get Petty in there as soon as possible so he can be evaluated and I'll continue to watch looking for improvement as these young players try to mesh a team. I've waited 48 years, what's a few more? What you've done in the past doesn't work. It's time to rebuild with Macc & his scouts. Let's find some football players to keep adding to what you've started. I'm indifferent right now, let's be bold & give Jet fans something to look forward to at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Disagree. The dumb ones seem to be reinvigorated by what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Can we just enjoy a victory for one night before we dissect every single aspect of what is or isn't wrong with the team? After all, victorious Sundays have been a rarity around here lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Try to walk a mile in my sh*t! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, ASH1962 said: Can we just enjoy a victory for one night before we dissect every single aspect of what is or isn't wrong with the team? After all, victorious Sundays have been a rarity around here lately. Dissect every aspect? Lol. Dissect what? 2 crappy teams going nowhere fast. I like to win, I'm only dissecting the play of our young guys, it's really the only thing that matters going forward. The only other thing I'm watching is Bowles coaching decisions. He doesn't have a great team or a decent QB so I want to see how hard these young guys play for him & if they can continue to get better. Shame Lee got hurt last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 too much losing my souls' worn thin..... I hear this. I took my daughter for driving lessons after the lol punt fumble TD thing, and when I came back and fitz was in I was like, lol I didn't even bother with a game ball thread for the first time in like, years. I'm numb. It's my only defense. I can't imagine what it's like to be around 21 and totally into this team. Back then it took me days to get over a loss. Now I'm like, here we go, half way through the cycle, wonder what the next coach and QB will be like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Great post OP! We are just burnt out - textbook burnt out. We can't get off this hamster wheel of mediocrity. We keep making changes but the final result is always the same. I agree, the ONLY thing I care about in 2016 is trying to develop our young guys to find some hope to cling to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 It really just comes down to the fact that I've seen this movie a billion times already. The coach is garbage, we need a quarterback, the GM probably doesn't know how to find one, and the owner seems like he's scheming behind the scenes. Again and again and again and again. 30 years of this already. It doesn't even affect me anymore. It's not saddening or maddening, just par for the course. It would be nice to just have a period of time for more than a year or two where we didn't have the same problems popping back up and it doesn't look like that's ever going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Oh come on. That's just crazy! Next your going to tell me that stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: It really just comes down to the fact that I've seen this movie a billion times already. The coach is garbage, we need a quarterback, the GM probably doesn't know how to find one, and the owner seems like he's scheming behind the scenes. Again and again and again and again. 30 years of this already. It doesn't even affect me anymore. It's not saddening or maddening, just par for the course. It would be nice to just have a period of time for more than a year or two where we didn't have the same problems popping back up and it doesn't look like that's ever going to happen. Exactly. I realized in the midst of the win today we'll probably again finish right around 7-9, which is the worst thing a franchise can do (especially one that doesn't have the future at QB yet), and I didn't care. I just can't muster any energy to feel good OR bad. Not sure I will again until we can acquire at least a serviceable QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Hmmm good therapy. ..can I open up too? Was thinking of buying a convertible, large amount of viagra and pulling an Al pacing scent of a woman kinda finality Whose coming with me..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 10 minutes ago, JetPotato said: Exactly. I realized in the midst of the win today we'll probably again finish right around 7-9, which is the worst thing a franchise can do (especially one that doesn't have the future at QB yet), and I didn't care. I just can't muster any energy to feel good OR bad. Not sure I will again until we can acquire at least a serviceable QB. Right where I am too, man. Winning today sucked. Meaningless and will contribute to robbing the Jets of yet another chance to draft a franchise QB. I have been drained of all emotion to support this franchise. Find a QB. Find a QB. Find a QB. And stop wasting our f*#¤ing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 18 minutes ago, SickJetFan said: Hmmm good therapy. ..can I open up too? Was thinking of buying a convertible, large amount of viagra and pulling an Al pacing scent of a woman kinda finality Whose coming with me..... I think your in the wrong forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Just when you realize the season is over and losing iout is the best thing for the team..,.....BAM!!!! Jets win. SOJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Had we lost today the season would most definitely be over. However, we are no at 2-5 with the very soft part of the schedule coming up. If we are coached correctly we have the talent to beat any of our upcoming opponents. Coached correctly means playing a 3-4 defence and playing the right man at QB. So, I'm hoping Bowles has learned a little something with today's win, and I'm not throwing in to towel on this season as long as we keep winning. Winning=momentum=winning. There is an outside shot at 10-6. It's up to Bowles to coach.....both personnel and scheme. If Bowles continues to sh!t the bed be may not be back next year. Today he finally looked like the 2015 version of himself. Now it's up to him to maintain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Can you imagine how bad Ravens fans are feeling today? "Dude, we just got beat by, by........THE JETS!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, peebag said: Can you imagine how bad Ravens fans are feeling today? "Dude, we just got beat by, by........THE JETS!!!!" I'd trade places with them in a heartbeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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munchmemory Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 munchmemory: Worn out since the days of Richard Todd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 12 hours ago, Jetster said: I've noticed that after this 2-5 start, even after a win the reaction is like, meh. Jet fans really don't care anymore & it's completely understandable and I truly hope that Woody is seeing the same thing & lets Macc do what he needs to do and that's getting looks at as many young players as we can. Even players on the practice squad. The Fitz Geno debates are really just frustration that we have no other choice until Petty is ready. Any Jet fan under any illusion that we're seeing any type of progression at QB, Oline, or secondary are fooling themselves. We have zero young studs at CB, Oline, Safety, RB, TE. That's an awful lot of holes. Jet fans might be passionate & sometimes unruly but I think most fans are realists and have just come to the obvious realization that the only way this team is going to get better is to cut the overpriced fat, continue using the draft & show some patience. I could care less about Geno because he's just not our future so winning a few games against teams just slightly less sh*tty than us means nothing to me. I really like our young WR core & it would be great if we could draft a stud RB to help them out. So far we have 2 young QBs going forward, maybe we should try to add another like Mike Glennon. But our future means nothing without finding a QB to move forward with. I'll continue to watch but like most of us today, I'm really just interested in individual growth of guys like, Leo, Lee, Burris, Jenkins, Enunwa, Anderson, Peake, J. Marshall, and especially waiting to see if Petty can play. I doubt we'll see Hack unless he's mopping up for a 5-9 season the last 2 games. Even though I wanted them to win today, I understand it's just practice for our younger players to get better & learn what it takes to win in this league. The Jets are just a complete afterthought by most NFL fans, and why not, we're no threat to compete, we have no star power, and we might be one of the most boring teams to watch in the league. So with all that said, if we can see that how is it possible that Macc doesn't see that & communicate it to the owner of the team? Can Woody really be that stupid? So Woody, most of us Jet fans are just asking you to please stop with the band aids, you can't fool us anymore. Signing the Leonard Marshalls & Ronnie Lotts of the world didn't help us years ago and doesn't help now. And stop overpaying our own aging veterans & do what the teams that are successful do, let them walk & let some other stupid franchise overpay them. So put a plan together. Amass more draft picks. Keep taking stabs at QBs until we find one, play the youngsters, get Petty in there as soon as possible so he can be evaluated and I'll continue to watch looking for improvement as these young players try to mesh a team. I've waited 48 years, what's a few more? What you've done in the past doesn't work. It's time to rebuild with Macc & his scouts. Let's find some football players to keep adding to what you've started. I'm indifferent right now, let's be bold & give Jet fans something to look forward to at least. I think Jets fans should not think about the Super Bowl or the playoffs and just enjoy each individual victory for what it is. This should be a happy forum right now. We just beat a team we haven't beaten since 1997. Instead we have Fitz and Geno factions mud slinging each other. It happened last year. 10 wins devalued by 1 loss. That doesn't seem equal to me. Jets fans need to enjoy the individual wins instead of acting like they are just pit stops on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 1 hour ago, JetPotato said: I'd trade places with them in a heartbeat Why? They've been bad since they won the Super Bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Totally agree on the sentiment. I go to the games and just enjoy the tailgating/spending time w/ friends. Not wasting time staying home and watching them on TV anymore, just doesn't bring me any joy. Right now I'd say I'm relegated to the simple pleasures in life like butter in my ass, lollipops in my mouth. That's just me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I mean Beningo and Roberts started with this game and the least talked about part about this game? The fact that they won the game. If that's the attitude, then just skip the regular season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 12 hours ago, Jetster said: I've noticed that after this 2-5 start, even after a win the reaction is like, meh. Jet fans really don't care anymore & it's completely understandable and I truly hope that Woody is seeing the same thing & lets Macc do what he needs to do and that's getting looks at as many young players as we can. Even players on the practice squad. The Fitz Geno debates are really just frustration that we have no other choice until Petty is ready. Any Jet fan under any illusion that we're seeing any type of progression at QB, Oline, or secondary are fooling themselves. We have zero young studs at CB, Oline, Safety, RB, TE. That's an awful lot of holes. Jet fans might be passionate & sometimes unruly but I think most fans are realists and have just come to the obvious realization that the only way this team is going to get better is to cut the overpriced fat, continue using the draft & show some patience. I could care less about Geno because he's just not our future so winning a few games against teams just slightly less sh*tty than us means nothing to me. I really like our young WR core & it would be great if we could draft a stud RB to help them out. So far we have 2 young QBs going forward, maybe we should try to add another like Mike Glennon. But our future means nothing without finding a QB to move forward with. I'll continue to watch but like most of us today, I'm really just interested in individual growth of guys like, Leo, Lee, Burris, Jenkins, Enunwa, Anderson, Peake, J. Marshall, and especially waiting to see if Petty can play. I doubt we'll see Hack unless he's mopping up for a 5-9 season the last 2 games. Even though I wanted them to win today, I understand it's just practice for our younger players to get better & learn what it takes to win in this league. The Jets are just a complete afterthought by most NFL fans, and why not, we're no threat to compete, we have no star power, and we might be one of the most boring teams to watch in the league. So with all that said, if we can see that how is it possible that Macc doesn't see that & communicate it to the owner of the team? Can Woody really be that stupid? So Woody, most of us Jet fans are just asking you to please stop with the band aids, you can't fool us anymore. Signing the Leonard Marshalls & Ronnie Lotts of the world didn't help us years ago and doesn't help now. And stop overpaying our own aging veterans & do what the teams that are successful do, let them walk & let some other stupid franchise overpay them. So put a plan together. Amass more draft picks. Keep taking stabs at QBs until we find one, play the youngsters, get Petty in there as soon as possible so he can be evaluated and I'll continue to watch looking for improvement as these young players try to mesh a team. I've waited 48 years, what's a few more? What you've done in the past doesn't work. It's time to rebuild with Macc & his scouts. Let's find some football players to keep adding to what you've started. I'm indifferent right now, let's be bold & give Jet fans something to look forward to at least. RB and TE don't matter... They have a decent option at RB, not a stud but who cares... The problem is CBs and LBs as it has been. They are consistantly getting beat on corner and flat routes. The deep balls are also a concern, they are in position but can't make a play. Sure Oline is an issue too.. but Ryan is just missing open WRs or Marshall drops another ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 " . The Jets are just a complete afterthought by most NFL fans" I would rather be that than a laughingstock with Rex. Seattle was like that before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 55 minutes ago, jmat321 said: Totally agree on the sentiment. I go to the games and just enjoy the tailgating/spending time w/ friends. Not wasting time staying home and watching them on TV anymore, just doesn't bring me any joy. Right now I'd say I'm relegated to the simple pleasures in life like butter in my ass, lollipops in my mouth. That's just me though. Butter in the ass....mmmm....I miss those carefree days with dad.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 52 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: I mean Beningo and Roberts started with this game and the least talked about part about this game? The fact that they won the game. If that's the attitude, then just skip the regular season You must be quite young. The Jets haven't had time to turn you over to the dark side yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, peebag said: You must be quite young. The Jets haven't had time to turn you over to the dark side yet. The only reason I am not is that I dont expect when it comes to sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 3 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: Why? They've been bad since they won the Super Bowl What a bizarre claim. They've had one losing season under Harbaugh/Flacco. And they've won 2 Super Bowls that I can remember to the Jets 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayBen Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 15 hours ago, Larz said: too much losing my souls' worn thin..... I hear this. I took my daughter for driving lessons after the lol punt fumble TD thing, and when I came back and fitz was in I was like, lol I didn't even bother with a game ball thread for the first time in like, years. I'm numb. It's my only defense. I can't imagine what it's like to be around 21 and totally into this team. Back then it took me days to get over a loss. Now I'm like, here we go, half way through the cycle, wonder what the next coach and QB will be like I'm 21 and I still cry at night over the week 17 loss at Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I've never cared less then I do this season. I went back to sleep after the botched punt 5 minutes in and didn't give a crap at all I missed the big comeback. I'm sure they'll finish 8-8 to screw up draft position but I just really don't care. Maybe I'll pay attention if one of the young QB's get in but until then it's a waste of my time and I've given them enough over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blocker Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I don't want to come across like a rose colored glasses wearing optimist, butt those rooting for a lose out season and a high pick need to remember some of the crappy picks this team has made with even first rounders the last few years. And what if the Jets win with Petty at the helm? That would be sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I just think enough bad seasons beats the passion out of you. I used to be a green-tinted glasses homer always optimistic. Last year when they lost on the last game in Buffalo all I could do was shrug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 It's funny because now that I'm 40 I've spent most of my adult fandom on message boards like this one. In my early 20's I was ravenous. Losses were brutal. Just brutal. I would rant and rave on sites at the older folks who were in the position I am now. I had season tickets for 5 years, never missed a game. Now, honestly, it's not that I love them any less. It's just that I see the signs a mile away. Going into this season we were presented with 2 possibilities-Fitz reverting back to the sh*tty player he's always been, or Fitz potentially becoming the first late career bloomer since Gannon. My 20 year old self would be all over the site with posts on how Fitz would take us to the promised land. Even in today's situation I'd be harping about how we still have a chance. My 40 year old self knows better. My 40 year old self knows that until we have a true franchise QB everything is just a effort in futility. I knew Fitz would bomb. We've seen this story before. Petty will bomb, and Hack will bomb next. We don't get lucky with projects and 4th round picks. And further to that point I can assure you we will likely pass on a potential franchise QB because the FO will believe they have their guy. Then they'll be fired, a new regime will come in wanting to make their mark and win right away to appease and angry fan base and we'll end up with some other retread half ass FA QB that'll win just enough with us to recycle the same thing again. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 10 hours ago, peebag said: Can you imagine how bad Ravens fans are feeling today? "Dude, we just got beat by, by........THE JETS!!!!" The mother Fukk in, gosh darn JETS is what they are saying. BUT they have 2 Super Bowls in their recent history. i would kill for one. I haven't been this dejected in a long time...... in 95, 96 I was pretty down, this feels like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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