ZachEY Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: Two years for BM beyond this one. The plain truth is the Jets talent has been awful for over a decade. The idea that you just give up talented players who also don't crumble playing in this market is also very important. BM likes playing here and can take the pressure of NY. He has been a beast since he has been here. He gave the offense a real identity and he backs down from no one. You dont give that up for a maybe unless you get a second. Next year depending on circumstances a third. And the year after that whatever you can. So maybe next year I would do if the team were still in the same situation as now. But if it is we are looking for then just trading BM but perhaps a new HC as well. Well, you have to franchise him to get another year past next, or give him a big new contract. And, what is going to change our QB situation for the better next year? Unfortunately, there's really no scenario in which the Jets are contenders and Brandon Marshall is still on the team/in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 For a 4th or worst, I wouldn't consider it. For a 2nd at Marshall's age, I'd be all over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 1 minute ago, flgreen said: For a 4th or worst, I wouldn't consider it. For a 2nd at Marshall's age, I'd be all over it The only reason not to for a 2nd round pick is that we literally have not made a good 2nd round pick in a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 If the Jets beat the Browns, they would be nuts to trade him. If the Jets lose to the Browns, it may be a consideration but I would want heavy compensation probably too much for a deal to be consummated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 11 hours ago, Jetster said: I'd be pissed if the Jets got offered a 2nd for B. Marsh & didn't take that deal. He's going into his 12 year, has a lot of mileage, loses his concentration a lot now & he's another guy that won't be here for our transformation. If they could trade Sheldon for a 2nd they should do that too. You go into a draft with 3 second round picks you could be in position to trade back for additional future picks. We ain't paying Mo, Sheldon & Leo who's better than Mo & Sheldon. Macc needs to be a bold mofo building the NY Jets to kick 40 year old Tom Brady to the curb in 2018. He'd have a chance to build this team right. Sign Glennon and keep on keeping on. Guy is a good receiver. No question. I would say great if he did not drop so many. He is great no more. But I cannot help but wonder how a guy moves around the league for 12 years and never once sniffs the playoffs? Fitz is self explanatory: bad QBing will always leep you out. It is hard to ever blame a receiver for not making it. I just assume that he did his small part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 We might have gotten a fourth if we'd traded him in the offseason. Now there's no chance we get anything that's even worth the headaches from fans who like big names more than winning so he stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 9 minutes ago, jack48 said: Guy is a good receiver. No question. I would say great if he did not drop so many. He is great no more. But I cannot help but wonder how a guy moves around the league for 12 years and never once sniffs the playoffs? Fitz is self explanatory: bad QBing will always leep you out. It is hard to ever blame a receiver for not making it. I just assume that he did his small part. Have to remember that before he came to the Jets he was considered a "locker room cancer". Always having some kind of drama. He has also had like 12 police contacts over domestic abuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 1 minute ago, flgreen said: Have to remember that before Fitz came to the Jets he was considered a "locker room cancer". Always having some kind of drama. He has also had like 12 police contacts with the police over domestic abuse Right. And even having said what I said, I think it would be nuts to trade him. We could not even finish a bad season with what is left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 11 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Everybody has a price. We got him for a 5th rounder, he's well on the wrong side of 30, and we're not contending this year. Anyone here really going to say that if Philly came along and offered a 1st rounder for him.....you'd turn it down? Why stop at a 1st rounder, maybe they'll give us 10 first rounders! Can we please try and be realistic for a change? Marshall would net us a 5th, same as what we paid, or lower. Talk of 1st's and 2nd's for him is pure fan-service fantasy. He's the best WR (drops aside) on our roster by a wide margin (especially now with Decker on IR), and an invaluable weapon for our young QB's when they get their test-drive later this season. The gain does not eclipse the loss, so no, I don't trade Marshall to the Eagles. Contention or not, drops or not, we need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 7 minutes ago, Warfish said: Why stop at a 1st rounder, maybe they'll give us 10 first rounders! It's not that unrealistic. The Eagles got a 1st rounder out of Bradford, and now they need to surround Wentz with weapons. Marshall fits the bill there. My point was not that the Eagles would give us a 1st rounder. My point was that people who are saying "NEVER TRADE MARSHALL EVER" would also happily take a 1st rounder for him. It reminds me of this old tale, or whatever you want to call it: A man asks another man if he would lick his shoe for a dollar. The man says "No, that's disgusting!" He then asks if the man would do it for a million dollars. "Well, ok, sure, for a million I'd do it", he says. "Well how about $2?" "No, I told you, that's disgusting. I won't do it." "Well, it seems we've established you would do it. Now we're just negotiating on price." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 28 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: It's not that unrealistic. It's not just unrealistic, it's laughably unrealistic. Ffs the level of myopic homerism required to think B.Marsh is worth a 1st round pick.....it's simply unworthy of serious consideration. It's literally the "I'll trade you my 1982 Hyundai for your 2016 Ferrari. I'll never understand why fans buy into these things. 28 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: My point was not that the Eagles would give us a 1st rounder. My point was that people who are saying "NEVER TRADE MARSHALL EVER" would also happily take a 1st rounder for him. I'd happily take a 1st rounder for Fitz too, doesn't mean it's worthy of discussion does it? B.Marsh might net us a 5th. Maybe. This isn't a negotiation, it's market value for a player of Marshall's age, skill, drops and baggage. Marshall does more for us (in giving our young QB's a semi-reliable talent to throw to) than he does for the Eagles. Why on gods green earth would we, after complaining for years about "Young Geno no weapons!!!!", would we roll out Petty or Hack with a WR group of nobodies and undrafted free agents? /facepalm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 13 hours ago, sourceworx said: What would the Jets get in compensation? A cheesesteak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 1 hour ago, JetsFanatic said: If the Jets beat the Browns, they would be nuts to trade him. If the Jets lose to the Browns, it may be a consideration but I would want heavy compensation probably too much for a deal to be consummated. If we go 2-14 it would still be nuts to trade him. 0.0% shot at us getting remotely fair compensation This roster has 1 more year left in its window before it needs to be blown up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 1 minute ago, drdetroit said: If we go 2-14 it would still be nuts to trade him. 0.0% shot at us getting remotely fair compensation This roster has 1 more year left in its window before it needs to be blown up Can always start early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Brandon is the best receiver we have. To ship him off would be a bad sign of us not being too confident in our near future. He comes relatively cheap, and has been a good team player. Although I feel like he often stone hands passes, he is still not worth shipping off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Ask for a first and be willing, reluctantly to settle for a 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 1 hour ago, drdetroit said: If we go 2-14 it would still be nuts to trade him. 0.0% shot at us getting remotely fair compensation This roster has 1 more year left in its window before it needs to be blown up I agree with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 So we really want a 2nd round pick for Marshall? Hackenburg Devin Smith Amaro Geno Smith Stephen Hill Ducasse David Harris <-----------Outlier Clemens Nugent Justin Miller Hobson Jon McGraw Lamont Jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 46 minutes ago, Beerfish said: So we really want a 2nd round pick for Marshall? Hackenburg Devin Smith Amaro Geno Smith Stephen Hill Ducasse David Harris <-----------Outlier Clemens Nugent Justin Miller Hobson Jon McGraw Lamont Jordan Well we don't have to take a player in round 2. We could use it to trade up in round 1, or trade it for a #1 pick the following year. Other than that, I've got nothing lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 The Eagles need a RT to replace Lane Johnson more than they need a WR. after this week they are probably going to stop pretending Wentz is going to the playoffs his rookie season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Best chance of a Jets trade that (a) nets us reasonable value and (b) doesn't leave us with a hole to fill, is Sheldon. Trading Marshall, having just lost Decker for this year (and, possibly, part of next year) would drop our WR talent no end. Then our new starting QB next year would have NO WEAPNZ!!! And so it continues ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 9 minutes ago, bitonti said: The Eagles need a RT to replace Lane Johnson more than they need a WR. after this week they are probably going to stop pretending Wentz is going to the playoffs his rookie season. What are you saying, that you think we could get something for Breno? What do you think we have to give up to get them to eat the rest of this year's game checks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 17 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: What are you saying, that you think we could get something for Breno? What do you think we have to give up to get them to eat the rest of this year's game checks? if Breno was playing and healthy, maybe. What I'm really saying is the Eagles aren't buyers, or really contenders. Their team has gone to sh*t without Lane Johnson. They are keeping in TE and RB to help this rookie Vaitai. He's a disaster If you ever think Breno is bad, check out these "belly flop" cut blocks from the Eagles' current RT. #72) http://www.phillyvoice.com/halapoulivaati-vaitai-game-review-gifs-and-stuff/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blocker Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 4 hours ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: We might have gotten a fourth if we'd traded him in the offseason. Now there's no chance we get anything that's even worth the headaches from fans who like big names more than winning so he stays. Fans give you headaches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blocker Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 40 minutes ago, bitonti said: The Eagles need a RT to replace Lane Johnson more than they need a WR. after this week they are probably going to stop pretending Wentz is going to the playoffs his rookie season. The Eagles with their fast start are exceeding most pre-season expectations. Does that mean they are going to make the playoffs? Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Just now, Big Blocker said: The Eagles with their fast start are exceeding most pre-season expectations. Does that mean they are going to make the playoffs? Probably not. this week will tell the tale. Big game vs Cowboys. I tend to agree by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blocker Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Just now, bitonti said: this week will tell the tale. Big game vs Cowboys. I tend to agree by the way You're right, big game, but since I think the cowgirls will win... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Say what? Stat of the week: Fitzpatrick has a passer rating of 46.9 when targeting Brandon Marshallthis season -- 2 TD, 5 INT. Only Case Keenum when targeting Tavon Austin (46.3) has a worse rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 What would Fitz do with no Marshall and no Decker? Who would he stare intently at for three seconds before throwing the ball to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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