chirorob Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Only have 30 carries so far this year? I mean, he's barely averaging 7 yards a pop. He does have 25 catches, but come on. Why even extend him for decent money if you won't give him the ball. This isn't hating on Powell, I like him. It isn't hating on Forte, I like him too. But Forte is 30, why can't you split the carries better than 157 to 30? For that matter, why are you giving Forte 20 carries a game, trying to wear him out before we even play NE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I heard Greg Buttle the homer say something so stupid last night on the post game to the effect that the CS is saving Powell for later on in the season. I almost crashed my car when I heard that! If this is even remotely true, I would love to know the rationale behind this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 5 minutes ago, ASH1962 said: I heard Greg Buttle the homer say something so stupid last night on the post game to the effect that the CS is saving Powell for later on in the season. I almost crashed my car when I heard that! If this is even remotely true, I would love to know the rationale behind this. Dude, when Powell rushes for 300 yards in our last 3 games to lock up an 8-8 season you are going to feel really stupid.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 13 minutes ago, chirorob said: Only have 30 carries so far this year? I mean, he's barely averaging 7 yards a pop. He does have 25 catches, but come on. Why even extend him for decent money if you won't give him the ball. This isn't hating on Powell, I like him. It isn't hating on Forte, I like him too. But Forte is 30, why can't you split the carries better than 157 to 30? For that matter, why are you giving Forte 20 carries a game, trying to wear him out before we even play NE? Matt Forte is averaging 3.3 ypc on the season and has 157 attempts already. Which would put him at 314 for the year if it keeps up. The most carries he's had in his career at 30 years old. Meanwhile, Powell is just straight balling. The dude makes something out of nothing and picks up long 1st on 3rd like it's easy. There is no reason to be running Forte and his 3.3 ypc into the ground at this rate. No reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 it's the same reason mauldin barely played when they were losing. misuse of personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 It seems like they spent the money on Forte so they feel like they have to keep playing him although Powell plays so much better. Same was true with Ivory. When Ivory's performance started to drop off and Powell was the better of the two they kept going to Ivory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 46 minutes ago, JiF said: Matt Forte is averaging 3.3 ypc on the season and has 157 attempts already. Which would put him at 314 for the year if it keeps up. The most carries he's had in his career at 30 years old. Meanwhile, Powell is just straight balling. The dude makes something out of nothing and picks up long 1st on 3rd like it's easy. There is no reason to be running Forte and his 3.3 ypc into the ground at this rate. No reason. He's my fantasy running back and my team couldn't handle him splitting touches evenly with Powell. That's a reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 The only way Forte's usage makes sense is if Powell were a rookie and struggled in pass-pro and blitz pickup, which he doesn't and really never has, so by my calculations, the usage, in fact, does not make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 1 hour ago, ASH1962 said: I heard Greg Buttle the homer say something so stupid last night on the post game to the effect that the CS is saving Powell for later on in the season. I almost crashed my car when I heard that! If this is even remotely true, I would love to know the rationale behind this. So dumb. Play them both so neither crashes at the end of the season. This reminds me of injured C-Mart getting 320 carries, and LaMont Jordan getting 63. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 42 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said: He's my fantasy running back and my team couldn't handle him splitting touches evenly with Powell. That's a reason... If your fantasy team is dependent on Jets play makers, you are screwed anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 3 minutes ago, chirorob said: If your fantasy team is dependent on Jets play makers, you are screwed anyway. Hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I wasn't in love with the Forte signing when it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 8 hours ago, chirorob said: Only have 30 carries so far this year? I mean, he's barely averaging 7 yards a pop. He does have 25 catches, but come on. Why even extend him for decent money if you won't give him the ball. This isn't hating on Powell, I like him. It isn't hating on Forte, I like him too. But Forte is 30, why can't you split the carries better than 157 to 30? For that matter, why are you giving Forte 20 carries a game, trying to wear him out before we even play NE? Shhh. I have Forte in my fantasy league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 6 hours ago, chirorob said: If your fantasy team is dependent on Jets play makers, you are screwed anyway. Enunwa is good in fantasy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 8 hours ago, chirorob said: Only have 30 carries so far this year? I mean, he's barely averaging 7 yards a pop. He does have 25 catches, but come on. Why even extend him for decent money if you won't give him the ball. This isn't hating on Powell, I like him. It isn't hating on Forte, I like him too. But Forte is 30, why can't you split the carries better than 157 to 30? For that matter, why are you giving Forte 20 carries a game, trying to wear him out before we even play NE? They probably agreed that Forte will get the bulk of the carries. My problem is that I dont think there's a game this season that it took less than 30 carries in the game for Forte to break 100 yards. Thats alot of carries just to get to 100. I dont mind giving Forte 20 carries, but you can certainly give Powell the other 10-15 per game. Matter of fact how about split the carries but put Forte on the field on 3rd down? How do we have one of the best pass catching RB's this generation and he's not even on the field on 3rd down? Or, how about doing split backs? We all know that Fitz isnt the best at throwing down the field, how about setting up mismatches with our RB's and picking up YAC? Instead of holding on to all these TE's that dont ever play actual football games, how about cutting one in order to sign a FB and get Forte some assistance, especially if we're going to use him that much? Granted, im not worried about wearing out Forte because its not like we're making the playoffs. We're at the midway point and Forte looks like the same RB from week 1, though we could use his services as well as Powell's much more efficiently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Shhh. I have Forte in my fantasy league. So does BowlesSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phill1c Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 8 hours ago, rex-n-effect said: It seems like they spent the money on Forte so they feel like they have to keep playing him although Powell plays so much better. Same was true with Ivory. When Ivory's performance started to drop off and Powell was the better of the two they kept going to Ivory. No, I just think they don't believe they have the OL to run wide and Forte is the best to run between the tackles. You start increasing Powell's workload and he'll get injured. It's happened before. The Jets like Forte's sure-handedness and he is the perfect complement to Ryan Fitzpatrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Powell is underused, but you have to be careful about how many carries you give him because he gets nicked up. You want him to be effective the entire season. He looked slow during the first part of last year because he was injured. Then he got healthy and looked great and then got injured again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionCA Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 most of the of the time the simple answer is the correct one. in this case it is the coaching staff is awful and the head coach has no idea what he is doing there is no other logical explanation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Why aren't they both in the backfield together? It would drive defenses batty. They both can run and catch. There's so much they can game plan with them. SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 4 hours ago, drdetroit said: Enunwa is good in fantasy Yep. Picked him up this week and he was great for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I find it puzzling that Powell is not at least sharing the workload with Forte. Agree with PowPow to go to a 2 back set. This can open up more options. It adds another dimension to the offense. Also Powell is more of a power back/slasher where Forte is more fitness and seam runner. Why Powell doesn't come in on short yardage situations is again confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 On 11/1/2016 at 1:36 AM, Jet9 said: Yep. Picked him up this week and he was great for me. He's been very good last couple weeks and helped me win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 On 11/1/2016 at 7:25 AM, MaxAF said: I find it puzzling that Powell is not at least sharing the workload with Forte. Agree with PowPow to go to a 2 back set. This can open up more options. It adds another dimension to the offense. Also Powell is more of a power back/slasher where Forte is more fitness and seam runner. Why Powell doesn't come in on short yardage situations is again confusing. I think Bowles doesn't have a clue. Forte has been ok this year but not good enough to be a full-time running back. It's not like Powell is Barry Sanders reincarnate, Jets fans do overrate him a bit, but there is 0.0 reason to not have a 50/50 share in reps between him and Forte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 On October 31, 2016 at 3:07 PM, chirorob said: So dumb. Play them both so neither crashes at the end of the season. This reminds me of injured C-Mart getting 320 carries, and LaMont Jordan getting 63. Where's the + 999999999 likes button? i'm a fan of Forte ... Def need more of his touches going to Powell though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 On October 31, 2016 at 2:07 PM, chirorob said: So dumb. Play them both so neither crashes at the end of the season. This reminds me of injured C-Mart getting 320 carries, and LaMont Jordan getting 63. Bowles is Herm minus charisma Crazy thing is Bowles is actually worse at clock management which is almost impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 1 hour ago, drdetroit said: Bowles is Herm minus charisma Crazy thing is Bowles is actually worse at clock management which is almost impossible bowles - " hey chan, the bighand is seconds and the little hand is minutes right" chan - "uh idk, we need to get forte some more carries though" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH THE PAIN Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 On 10/31/2016 at 1:23 PM, ASH1962 said: I heard Greg Buttle the homer say something so stupid last night on the post game to the effect that the CS is saving Powell for later on in the season. I almost crashed my car when I heard that! If this is even remotely true, I would love to know the rationale behind this. That's not the first stupid thing that Buttle has said . Buttle is the ultimate HOMER . He has chapped lips from kissing Woody's ass . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 On October 31, 2016 at 8:42 PM, drdetroit said: Enunwa is good in fantasy Thinking about picking him up. I have Dion Lewis, Steve Smith, Doug Martin and Spencer Ware on my bench and the bench size is 4! Yay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted November 4, 2016 Author Share Posted November 4, 2016 9 hours ago, drdetroit said: I think Bowles doesn't have a clue. Forte has been ok this year but not good enough to be a full-time running back. It's not like Powell is Barry Sanders reincarnate, Jets fans do overrate him a bit, but there is 0.0 reason to not have a 50/50 share in reps between him and Forte. I think he's a solid, contributing back. Not elite, but a very decent player. Forte isn't so much better that he should be getting 5 times the carries Powell is. I think both would be better sharing the load. Powell, so he can get into the flow of the game, Forte so he isn't done by week 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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