CrazyCarl40 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Well. There's that then. Devin Smith is back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 #ThanksMACCCCCC WTF, what a mess, from executive of the year to Idzik 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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joewilly12 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Clady he never replaced D-Brick sad attempt to do so. Jenkins was a waste of a roster spot and money. Devin Smith hopefully Petty is his QB. Raid New England nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I hope Devin has got that 6 yard slant down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Wow. This is worse than i even thought. Clady was worth the try given his comp and where we were without Brick. But then again, the Jets gave up a draft pick because they thought they were otherwise a playoff win now team. That was the ulimate miscalculation. Paying for Fitz and Clady thinking that they were going to bet you past a murderers row of the NFL's best teams. Its tough to give up on the season and think you should have in hindsight, but in hindsight those moves backfired and used resources that could been used for the future. My guess is that Macc saw this coming, but Woody pushed. Yes-its all Woody's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 8 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Not only that, but I believe his signing cost the Jets a compensatory pick next year. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 turns out a left tackle that never got hurt was worth his contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 And on top of all that this is for a position in which we had quality and enough depth. Just a throw away of money and a compensatory pick. As for Clady who didn't see this coming. As some if us said during all of those anti D'Brick threads, a guy that doesn;t miss a snap for 10 years has great value even if his play falls off a bit. We will be looking for a LT for the next 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Now that was a 5th round pick well spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: And on top of all that this is for a position in which we had quality and enough depth. Just a throw away of money and a compensatory pick. As for Clady who didn't see this coming. As some if us said during all of those anti D'Brick threads, a guy that doesn;t miss a snap for 10 years has great value even if his play falls off a bit. We will be looking for a LT for the next 5 years. Not a comp pick. That has been disproven for the moment, based on player's value. But that was 1 of the two Macc mistakes that can be questioned not in hindsight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: Not a comp pick. That has been disproven for the moment, based on player's value. But that was 1 of the two Macc mistakes that can be questioned not in hindsight You will have to point me to the dis proven bit. The jets will likley get no comp picks next year and we lost some substantial players. People were questioning these moves when it happened and this one, giving 3 mill to a journeyman that had been trashed by previous teams he was with flys in the face of your mantra that we are rebuilding. In the end results are all that matter and if the GM screws up enough he is doing a bad job. no matter what excuses you trot out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: You will have to point me to the dis proven bit. The jets will likley get no comp picks next year and we lost some substantial players. People were questioning these moves when it happened and this one, giving 3 mill to a journeyman that had been trashed by previous teams he was with flys in the face of your mantra that we are rebuilding. In the end results are all that matter and if the GM screws up enough he is doing a bad job. no matter what excuses you trot out. Likely, being the key word. I said that the Jenkins move was a mistake. 1 of 2 that could be questioned at the time. Signing Fitz: Media and Fans wanted that Signing Mo: Media and Fans wanted that. It's like this election. If you voted for Trump and complain afterwards, why didn;t you vote for someone else. All I know is that if Macc fails, then Woody is going to go back to the old way of doing things which means bean counter. And I dont think you want a bean counter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Mike Maccagnan not the answer here wake up Woody Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Hopefully Mike McGlinchey from ND comes out, and falls in the Jets lap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, bitonti said: turns out a left tackle that never got hurt was worth his contract It's truly scary how this organization has let the most important unit on any team turn to sh*t. Maybe we finally get to see Dozier play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 22 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Not only that, but Jenkins signing cost us a nice Comp pick that we would have had for Snacks. By far... signing Jenkins one of Mac's WORST moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Signing Jenkins was just an absolutely abysmal move. This isn't hindsight, this was said the day he was signed and we lost out on the comp pick. Just mind-boggling decision-making The Clady deal, I'm okay with that one, but the Jenkins' deal was just dreadful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Dcat said: Not only that, but Jenkins signing cost us a nice Comp pick that we would have had for Snacks. By far... signing Jenkins one of Mac's WORST moves. #2 Re signig Fitzpatrick is the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Just now, BroadwayJoe12 said: Signing Jenkins was just an absolutely abysmal move. This isn't hindsight, this was said the day he was signed and we lost out on the comp pick. Just mind-boggling decision-making The Clady deal, I'm okay with that one, but the Jenkins' deal was just dreadful. I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 10 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Not a comp pick. That has been disproven for the moment, based on player's value. But that was 1 of the two Macc mistakes that can be questioned not in hindsight incorrect. Value was enough. But we had equal number of qualified FAacquisitions and FA losses so no comp pick. Take Jenkins out of the equation and we ne a loss of one Qulified FA and thus get a comp pick for Snacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I was deeply concerned about Bowles, now I'm getting deeply concerned about Maccagnan. Were any of his offseason moves good? Lost Brick, lost Ivory, lost Snacks. Free agent replacements hurt or not cutting it. None of the young WRs stepping up to fill Decker's shoes. Lee/Pryor not working. Petty and Hackenberg [apparently] not qualified to improve the QB position. Bowles looking like he's lost the locker room. Someone talk me off the ledge please. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsamuel84 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Welp with no Mangold or Clady this week we may get our wish to see Petty by default. O-Line and secondary need to be our top focuses in the offseason we've held off on the O-Line rebuild too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, SAR I said: I was deeply concerned about Bowles, now I'm getting deeply concerned about Maccagnan. Were any of his offseason moves good? Lost Brick, lost Ivory, lost Snacks. Free agent replacements hurt or not cutting it. None of the young WRs stepping up to fill Decker's shoes. Lee/Pryor not working. Petty and Hackenberg [apparently] not qualified to improve the QB position. Bowles looking like he's lost the locker room. Someone talk me off the ledge please. SAR I Forte to replace Ivory was a great move. The others... well not so much. That should back you up to the wall at least a few more inches from the ledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Left Tackle isn't as important now as it was 10 years ago when Brick was drafted. Everyone quick passes now from a three step drop and now that everything is defensive pass interference and holding they do it more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Dcat said: Forte to replace Ivory was a great move. The others... well not so much. That should back you up to the wall at least a few more inches from the ledge. Keyshawn to Cimini 15 minutes ago: "They need to blow that thing up," Johnson said Tuesday on ESPN New York radio. "It's not plug and play. Everybody thinks, 'Oh, we just need a quarterback because we've got Brandon Marshall.' Man, Brandon Marshall is as old as me. His time is coming where he has to leave. [Eric] Decker's time is coming. "They've got to get young all the way around again and start from the ground up. People gotta have patience." Johnson said he doesn't advocate firing Maccagnan, but he believes the Jets "have to find" a personnel czar who can overhaul the roster and "turn over every single rock." He's a fan of coach Todd Bowles, but he claimed their inability to develop a quarterback can be blamed on having defensive-minded head coaches like Bowles and Rex Ryan. "They don't value the other side of the ball," Johnson said. http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/64692/keyshawn-johnson-says-jets-need-to-blow-that-thing-up-start-over SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 25 minutes ago, section314 said: I hope Devin has got that 6 yard slant down. I'd settle for the putz just to not run into the goal post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, Dcat said: Forte to replace Ivory was a great move. The others... well not so much. That should back you up to the wall at least a few more inches from the ledge. "Great"? Forte has been ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 7 minutes ago, SAR I said: I was deeply concerned about Bowles, now I'm getting deeply concerned about Maccagnan. Were any of his offseason moves good? Lost Brick, lost Ivory, lost Snacks. Free agent replacements hurt or not cutting it. None of the young WRs stepping up to fill Decker's shoes. Lee/Pryor not working. Petty and Hackenberg [apparently] not qualified to improve the QB position. Bowles looking like he's lost the locker room. Someone talk me off the ledge please. SAR I The saga continues............this team is a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 13 minutes ago, drsamuel84 said: Welp with no Mangold or Clady this week we may get our wish to see Petty by default. O-Line and secondary need to be our top focuses in the offseason we've held off on the O-Line rebuild too long. Yes and no. We have to resign Winters now., Ijalana and Qvale are serviceable and cheap. Mangold has one more season. Left Tackle is not a premium position anymore. The Seahawks have the worst OL in the NFL they might be going to the Super Bowl. All the premier pass rushers Rush from the right side today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 9 minutes ago, SAR I said: Keyshawn to Cimini 15 minutes ago: "They need to blow that thing up," Johnson said Tuesday on ESPN New York radio. "It's not plug and play. Everybody thinks, 'Oh, we just need a quarterback because we've got Brandon Marshall.' Man, Brandon Marshall is as old as me. His time is coming where he has to leave. [Eric] Decker's time is coming. "They've got to get young all the way around again and start from the ground up. People gotta have patience." Johnson said he doesn't advocate firing Maccagnan, but he believes the Jets "have to find" a personnel czar who can overhaul the roster and "turn over every single rock." He's a fan of coach Todd Bowles, but he claimed their inability to develop a quarterback can be blamed on having defensive-minded head coaches like Bowles and Rex Ryan. "They don't value the other side of the ball," Johnson said. http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/64692/keyshawn-johnson-says-jets-need-to-blow-that-thing-up-start-over SAR I Blow it up starting with your boy $hitzpatrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Good news here is it did not look like Ben did to bad last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 20 minutes ago, SAR I said: Keyshawn to Cimini 15 minutes ago: "They need to blow that thing up," Johnson said Tuesday on ESPN New York radio. "It's not plug and play. Everybody thinks, 'Oh, we just need a quarterback because we've got Brandon Marshall.' Man, Brandon Marshall is as old as me. His time is coming where he has to leave. [Eric] Decker's time is coming. "They've got to get young all the way around again and start from the ground up. People gotta have patience." Johnson said he doesn't advocate firing Maccagnan, but he believes the Jets "have to find" a personnel czar who can overhaul the roster and "turn over every single rock." He's a fan of coach Todd Bowles, but he claimed their inability to develop a quarterback can be blamed on having defensive-minded head coaches like Bowles and Rex Ryan. "They don't value the other side of the ball," Johnson said. http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/64692/keyshawn-johnson-says-jets-need-to-blow-that-thing-up-start-over SAR I He's right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 52 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: But he did cost us a supplemental draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 21 minutes ago, SAR I said: "They don't value the other side of the ball," Johnson said. seems ironic coming from a former #1 overall NYJ pick who played offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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