BrickTamland Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 What do I do to become enamored with this guy? Are there people here who love him? Has he earned it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 %crickets% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Go get 'em, Carl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Good arm, wheels and strength. For a kid with a big arm, he also has nice touch. If you were building a QB, he would be fit the build. But he is very raw in my opinion to take early in the first round. That's pretty much my evaluation for 3 or 4 QBs at the top of this draft class. Watson/Trubinsky/Kizer are all capable of becoming NFL QBs. Watson is the only one that has played enough in college to warrant taking early in the 1st and even that would be a gamble imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Even though Notre Dame has stunk, the thing that's going for Kizer is they ran a pro style offense: - They huddled - He took snaps from center - He's familiar with taking 3, 5 and 7 step drops - It appeared that he wasn't a "one read" QB, it seemed like he went through progressions - Good frame and arm strength With Kizer the scouts can eliminate whether he can do the routine QB "stuff" and concentrate on his intangibles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 50 minutes ago, KRL said: intangibles Sexiest word in sports. Next to moxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Can't, he has an extremely high ceiling, but also an extremely low floor . He's got a chance to be Geno Smith ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Stay away from him in the first or second round. If he's there after that, sure, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Prototype Has everything u want in a QB ..from a physical stand point Good Athlete, Big Arm , he makes NFL type throws, he is very young still learning the game but he is smart went through progressions and played from under center .. played much better last year before his weapons where stripped this year .. very boom or bust but wouldn't surprise me if he turnt out good somewhere ..there is some talent there how it develops remains to be seen .. He makes NFL Throws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I didn't see him as much as some of our college football gurus but the games I did see there was no in between play, he either looked like a good pro prospect with some really good features or he looked like total junk. Can't remember which game I watched in which he took a massive beating all game long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 2 hours ago, BrickTamland said: What do I do to become enamored with this guy? Are there people here who love him? Has he earned it? Bryce Petty. Christian Hackenberg. No different than the guy getting sold the pen in wolf of wall street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smaxor5 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 He's not a current Jets Quarterback. What do I win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I'm a huge ND fan and watched almost every game since they've been on every week and want nothing to do with a QB this year at 6. If for some reason they do take a QB there Kizer is probably the most NFL ready and will be a solid backup during his NFL career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 The fact that we don't have an NFL caliber QB on the roster is that enough of a selling point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Funny how everybody here clamors for a pro style QB who is a pocket passer, goes through his progressions, and reads defenses. And Kizer is all of that but yet he's still not good enough lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 He doesn't play well in hurricanes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 So we draft a QB in the first or second round a still don't have a starter for 2017. Then what? Jets need to focus on the O-LINE, secondary and RB in the first 2 rounds. Then pick up a QB in later rounds. They need a starter (Vet) for 2017 that's young enough to rebuild. Unless the plan is to go 3-13 next year. Then pick up Kizer, Watson, Trubisky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20andOut Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Can't do it. Watched alot of ND games and he made bad decisions, threw bad picks in every one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 His name is sure to be pronounced in weird and wondrous ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 4 hours ago, KRL said: Even though Notre Dame has stunk, the thing that's going for Kizer is they ran a pro style offense: - They huddled - He took snaps from center - He's familiar with taking 3, 5 and 7 step drops - It appeared that he wasn't a "one read" QB, it seemed like he went through progressions - Good frame and arm strength With Kizer the scouts can eliminate whether he can do the routine QB "stuff" and concentrate on his intangibles I hope we draft him so our coaching staff can scold him for ever thinking he had the requisite ability to play QB in the NFL. We can then say he'll be redshirted for the year because he needs to work on his mechanical flaws but will refuse to begin work on his flaws until the off-season, because doing such work mid-year is just too much of a task for the coaching staff. When we're then eliminated from the playoffs by week 10, people will start asking if we'll play the kid despite the fact that it's supposed to a redshirt year for him, and we'll make vague references about how he can only get better by playing but then will refuse to play him. This is how this plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 4 hours ago, 20andOut said: Can't do it. Watched alot of ND games and he made bad decisions, threw bad picks in every one. His best Reciever this year went on to play Baseball.. and he still threw 26 tds and 9ints .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Similar to Hack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Not experienced or accurate enough, draft Watson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 11 hours ago, BrickTamland said: What do I do to become enamored with this guy? Are there people here who love him? Has he earned it? No. just no to Kizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Dcat said: No. just no to Kizer At least you thoroughly explained your position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYDreamer Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 And our offensive line can be called "The Usual Suspects" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20andOut Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 7 hours ago, Scoop24 said: 12 hours ago, 20andOut said: Can't do it. Watched alot of ND games and he made bad decisions, threw bad picks in every one. His best Reciever this year went on to play Baseball.. and he still threw 26 tds and 9ints .. I saw that 9 int stat someplace else, but I would have sworn that number was higher. Not doubting the number, just saying that is the impression I got. I watched the majority of ND games this year and it seemed like Kizer always threw a bad pick at a critical moment. As for the receiver, his name is Tori Hunter, and being a good baseball player doesn't make you a bad wide receiver, as any ND fan knows (Samardja) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 17 hours ago, BrickTamland said: What do I do to become enamored with this guy? Are there people here who love him? Has he earned it? Can't. I have seen about ten minutes worth of Kizer---and they were all bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I am a huge ND fan and have watched every game Kizer has played. I wanted him to be the starter going into 2015. Never understood Kelly's fascination with Malik Zaire. He's got the prototype size, speed and strength of an NFL QB. He's run a pro-style offense. His accuracy is above average and his arm strength is about as good as can be and he can put touch on the ball. That being said, he needs to work on his decision making. He tends to rush throws from time to time and tries too hard to make plays when the best move is throwing the ball away. This worked out fine in 2015 when he had Will Fuller, who seemingly caught everything, to bail him out but with Fuller gone last year, it showed. His problems can be fixed. They are really nothing more than the typical rookie coming into the NFL type of issues. He is more than just a project. I would love the Jets to draft him. But I am also high on Trubiskly and Watson. I think all three are gonna be good. I think these three can be another Eli/Big Ben/Rivers type of group. Obviously, you would want the Roethlisberger. I think that is Trubisky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmarr Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 dont draft him...build oline,pass rusher,and DB.Resign Geno to 1 yr deal and let Geno Hack and Petty battle it out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 4 hours ago, 20andOut said: I saw that 9 int stat someplace else, but I would have sworn that number was higher. Not doubting the number, just saying that is the impression I got. I watched the majority of ND games this year and it seemed like Kizer always threw a bad pick at a critical moment. As for the receiver, his name is Tori Hunter, and being a good baseball player doesn't make you a bad wide receiver, as any ND fan knows (Samardja) Hunter isn't the player Samardja was .. he was legit 1st to 2nd round prospect .. while hunter would have lucky to be drafted at all.. as for his stats there right here http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/deshone-kizer-1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 15 hours ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said: Similar to Hack SOLD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 16 hours ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said: Similar to Hack In no way is that true at all. I would love to hear a defense of this position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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