AFJF Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Contract was up and Raiders let him go. Lots of OC experience but never ran a top-10 offense before this season. 2016 also his only top-10 passing offense.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, AFJF said: Lots of OC experience but never ran a top-10 offense before this season. All about the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Why change after such a good season? Doesn't really make sense if he isn't getting a HC job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Musgrave had Carr we have no one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 By far the most thankless task in all of pro football, the OC Defensive centric head coaches seem to last forever but OCs are sacrificial lambs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Did not like him AT ALL in his time with Minnesota. Would be cautious about picking him up. A good QB can mask a ton of flaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I'm worried now that McCoy is going to gun for that job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I think they probably will promote the QB coach. When you have a coach that is a "rising star" you let the next guy up the rung walk so that you can promote from within. I wouldn't worry much about McCoy. I don't know what to make of his time in Minnesota. The Ponder era doesn't make it easy to judge a guy, but their Josh Freeman experiment was a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 27 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I'm worried now that McCoy is going to gun for that job. McCoy could be the reason he was let go. We'll know more when he gets hired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 hour ago, docdhc said: Why change after such a good season? Doesn't really make sense if he isn't getting a HC job. Personally I think it's a mistake to get rid of Musgrave , Ken Norton Jr the Raiders DC should have been shown the door.( supposedly staying) . The Raiders want to promote Qb coach Todd Downing to OC .( supposedly in high demand , but risky as he never called plays in his life. Never hurts to be friends with the franchise Qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 49 minutes ago, Pcola said: McCoy could be the reason he was let go. We'll know more when he gets hired. McCoy is said to be going with McDermott where ever he ends up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 1 hour ago, AFJF said: Contract was up and Raiders let him go. Lots of OC experience but never ran a top-10 offense before this season. 2016 also his only top-10 passing offense.. helps to have carr, amari cooper and a decent oline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Also Bill Musgrave fate might have been sealed when Derek Carr broke his leg. Mark Davis was over heard yelling why are we throwing the football up 19 points in the fourth quarter. Right there might have cost him his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said: McCoy is said to be going with McDermott where ever he ends up. That might just be a heck of a team. Kind of like Quinn and Shanny Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Raideraholic said: Personally I think it's a mistake to get rid of Musgrave , Ken Norton Jr the Raiders DC should have been shown the door.( supposedly staying) . The Raiders want to promote Qb coach Todd Downing to OC .( supposedly in high demand , but risky as he never called plays in his life. Never hurts to be friends with the franchise Qb. Definitely doesnt. Don't know much about Downing but if it keeps McCoy away from you guys I'm all for him being your next OC, lol. 1 hour ago, Raideraholic said: Also Bill Musgrave fate might have been sealed when Derek Carr broke his leg. Mark Davis was over heard yelling why are we throwing the football up 19 points in the fourth quarter. Right there might have cost him his job. That would be silly seeing as the HC would be the one that should be answering for that. Would honestly feel bad for Musgrave if that's the case. Del Rio should have pulled Carr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said: McCoy is said to be going with McDermott where ever he ends up. We'll there's a chance he goes to San Diego...whiiiiiich would kinda blow that one up, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Interesting... I don't know a ton about his play calling... What kind of offense does he like to run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbt Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 12 hours ago, Pcola said: That might just be a heck of a team. Kind of like Quinn and Shanny Jr. WGR 550 Buffalo's Sal Capaccio reports if Panthers DC Sean McDermott is named the Bills' new coach, Capaccio "keeps hearing" ex-Chargers coach Mike McCoy "could join him" as offensive coordinator. There are obviously moving parts here, but it sure sounds like the Bills have "zeroed in" on McDermott as their next coach. McCoy is viewed by many as the top offensive coordinator on the market. The two have never coached together. McCoy's presence could be a reason Buffalo is leaning toward McDermott. McCoy has done well with numerous different quarterbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Ironic that they drove him out of town once he lost his Carr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I'm hearing Vance Joseph to Denver and he also has McCoy as his lead for OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 52 minutes ago, Maxman said: Ironic that they drove him out of town once he lost his Carr. YES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 50 minutes ago, Joejet said: I'm hearing Vance Joseph to Denver and he also has McCoy as his lead for OC. So as we stand McCoy will go to either Denver or Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Clouds Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Maxman said: Ironic that they drove him out of town once he lost his Carr. Well done, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Right now I think we will end up with Anthony Lynn, which would be useful in getting Tyrod Taylor here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Raiders expected to make offensive coordinator change by season's end Todd Downing's unit isn't meeting expectations and he's coaching for his job Raiders offensive coordinator Todd Downing is under increasing pressure with his unit struggling and is coaching for his job down the stretch. He is unlikely to be back with the team in 2018 at this point and the situation could come to a head before then, with Oakland already firing its defensive coordinator, Ken Norton, last week. Downing has had a difficult first season on the job, with quarterback Derek Carr and receiver Amari Cooper failing to play at the level they have in the past, and with players growing frustrated with the coordinator, sources said. There are significant concerns with the state of the offense and Downing has not endeared himself to many in the building, sources said. Downing 37, has flourished in a quarterback coach role in the past, and spent the previous two seasons in that capacity in Oakland, with Carr thriving and getting rewarded with a massive contract extension. But the offense has failed to find an identity this season, the big plays that punctuated the attack in past seasons have not materialized and Carr's play has suffered as well. The overall experience of the Raiders' offensive and defensive coordinator have been something of an issue there, and with head coach Jack Del Rio getting a lucrative contract extension prior to the season, it's very unlikely ownership would make a move there. However, the construction of the staff is expected to look much different in 2018, with Del Rio likely to look for more proven coaches on both sides of the ball. One possibility on offense is Mike McCoy, who Denver just let go as its offensive coordinator, With a defense that has been among the league's worst in recent years, and most of the team's big money sunk into the offense (quarterback and offensive line, specifically), there is an onus on that group will be prolific. But the Raiders go into Week 12 ranked just 18th in offensive points scored, they rank just 21st in yards per game, 22nd in plays of 10 yards or more. They are 27th in rushing yards and rank 21st in overall passing. The Raiders have been one of the NFL's bigger disappointments, with a 4-6 record to this point, and fading playoff hopes in the AFC. Getting back to the postseason would likely require them catching the Chiefs for the AFC West title, and there has been rancor among the players this week over Norton being let go, with some believing the offense is under-performing and changes should have begun on that side of the ball. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/raiders-expected-to-make-offensive-coordinator-change-by-seasons-end/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 It is unbelievable how many times there were two or more receivers occupying the same space on incompletions from Carr. This was an every game occurrence and not "cleverly conceived" routes or picks by design -- guys were just standing around in the wrong places. He should have been $hitcanned for those recurring gaffs alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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