Joe W. Namath Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Mike Williams is the guy. Now we have a stud wr for the qb we pick number 1 overall next year. Too bad we will have to trade up to get him as the Titans will grab him at 5. Typical jet late seaon win robbing up of a star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 On 1/11/2017 at 11:04 AM, #27TheDominator said: Really? I didn't pay that much attention, but in the brief bit I watched, I saw him false start and cost his team 4 points. Well if you weren't paying attention, then what are you talking about. They ran behind him in dominant fashion. He shut down whoever was rushing the passer on his side. He looked dominant. He looked like he didn't even break a sweat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, PepPep said: Well if you weren't paying attention, then what are you talking about. They ran behind him in dominant fashion. He shut down whoever was rushing the passer on his side. He looked dominant. He looked like he didn't even break a sweat. I am talking about him false starting. How many did he have? It was more than one and it cost his team at least 4 points - the margin of victory. You can comment on that or not, but the fact I didn't watch the entire game or concentrate on his performance does not change his multiple false start penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said: I am talking about him false starting. How many did he have? It was more than one and it cost his team at least 4 points - the margin of victory. You can comment on that or not, but the fact I didn't watch the entire game or concentrate on his performance does not change his multiple false start penalties. Sure, but you don't pass on a blue chip OT prospect b/c he has a tendency to false start. But thats just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I'm actually pretty intrigued by Jamal Adams and Malik Hooker. I want an Eric Berry, Landon Collins type of player on this team. I'd also be interested in one of the two top pass rushers but I think they'll both be gone by the time we pick. In years past I've been wanting the Jets to go offense in the first round but this year I'm actually leaning more towards defense. Even though we always go defense in the 1st round. Obviously you want the BPA but who knows who that will be at this time when the Jets pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, PepPep said: Sure, but you don't pass on a blue chip OT prospect b/c he has a tendency to false start. But thats just me. Maybe. I haven't seen him ranked that highly yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 18 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Maybe. I haven't seen him ranked that highly yet. Well, he's the top OT prospect. That's pretty clear. I actually really like OT- Ryan Ramzcyk out of Wisconsin but with his hip surgery, only in the second round. Although it would never happen, the Jets could take BOTH and both could start somewhere on the O-line next year and possibly be the Jet 2 OTs for the next 10 years. The Jets could feasibly also trade down in the first and still get a shot at Robinson in the 1st Ramzcyk in the 2nd and still have an additional 2nd and 3rd or 4th rounder to address other positions of need. I realize that's not going to happen and the most likely scenario, whether fans like it of not, is that Macc stays put at #6 and takes BPA, who will probably be L. Fournette. And I would not be surprised, with his philosophy of finding quality O-linemen deeper in the draft, if Macc took a CB in the second round and did not address OT/O-line until as late as the 4th round (the assumption also being that he would sign vet O-linemen to fill starting roles and we would have a comp pick). Although not my preference, our draft could end up looking something like this: Rd. 1: Fournette- RB Rd. 2: Sidney Jones- CB Rd. 3: Kai Nacua- S Rd. 4 (comp pick): Forrest Lamp- OT Rd. 5: Carroll Phillips- OLB Rd. 6: Brendan Langley- CB Rd. 7: J.J. Dielman- C/OT *Note the emphasis on adding talent to the secondary. i think tat will be a theme of the draft. Multiple CBs and/or Safeties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 22 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said: I'm actually pretty intrigued by Jamal Adams and Malik Hooker. I want an Eric Berry, Landon Collins type of player on this team. I'd also be interested in one of the two top pass rushers but I think they'll both be gone by the time we pick. In years past I've been wanting the Jets to go offense in the first round but this year I'm actually leaning more towards defense. Even though we always go defense in the 1st round. Obviously you want the BPA but who knows who that will be at this time when the Jets pick. Its very likely L.Fournette will be BPA at #6. Not only Jet fans, but a lot of football fans in general are skeptical of taking Fournette so high. Due to his ankle injury and the fact that he is a RB. But the talent is hard to argue against. If he is there at 6, he will easily be one of the BPA. In year's past, in a draft like this, he would be the #1 overall pick. But the game has changed significantly. With emphasis on the pass game- i.e. Pass Rushers, OTs, QBs being taken #1 overall. The last #1 overall draft pick that was not either a QB, OT or Pass Rusher was K.Johnson-WR in 1996. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Just now, PepPep said: Its very likely L.Fournette will be BPA at #6. Not only Jet fans, but a lot of football fans in general are skeptical of taking Fournette so high. Due to his ankle injury and the fact that he is a RB. But the talent is hard to argue against. If he is there at 6, he will easily be one of the BPA. In year's past, in a draft like this, he would be the #1 overall pick. But the game has changed significantly. With emphasis on the pass game- i.e. Pass Rushers, OTs, QBs being taken #1 overall. The last #1 overall draft pick that was not either a QB, OT or Pass Rusher was K.Johnson-WR in 1996. Yeah, I know Fournette is a strong possibility as well. I was initially against going with him at 6 because I don't think you should value the RB position that high anymore. But over the last few weeks I've been more and more open to it. Elite talents are elite talents. A top tier RB who can create shouldn't be devalued because of the position. There are plenty of touches to go around for both him and Powell if both are used properly. I would have no problem with that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 1 minute ago, ScarletKnight89 said: Yeah, I know Fournette is a strong possibility as well. I was initially against going with him at 6 because I don't think you should value the RB position that high anymore. But over the last few weeks I've been more and more open to it. Elite talents are elite talents. A top tier RB who can create shouldn't be devalued because of the position. There are plenty of touches to go around for both him and Powell if both are used properly. I would have no problem with that pick. Fournette is not my preference. I love him as a prospect. But I love the prospect of trading down more. Specifically, I want a trade with the Browns. Browns take Garrett #1 overall and move up to #6 for a QB (Watson, Trubinsky, Kizer). Jets get Browns #12 pick, 2nd round pick (1st overall in the 2nd round) and a 3rd or 4th (both high picks in their respective rounds). This trade makes sense b/c the Browns may be worried the Jets take their QB, they need a QB desperately, and they have 2 second rounders as ammo. At 12 the Jets could go a number of ways. If C.Robinson is still there I may want to take him. But a top tier CB or S (Jamal Adams? Hooker?) may also be an option. They could go for a pass rusher (Tim Williams?). Or go in a completely different direction and take Cook-RB or M.Williams-WR. Maybe even Cunningham flies up draft boards. At 12, with 2 second rounders and an extra 3rd or 4th, the Jets will have a TON of options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 16 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: Mike Williams is the guy. Now we have a stud wr for the qb we pick number 1 overall next year. Too bad we will have to trade up to get him as the Titans will grab him at 5. Typical jet late seaon win robbing up of a star. Mike Williams will have to burn a 4.3 to even be worth that 6th pick, let alone go higher. He's nice but it seems unlikely. He's not a Julio Jones or AJ Green type of prospect. He seems more likely to go in the teens, but he could shut me up by running super fast. *** Who should they draft, a QB, but who will they draft an edge, DB or Leonard Fournette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, bitonti said: Mike Williams will have to burn a 4.3 to even be worth that 6th pick, let alone go higher. He's nice but it seems unlikely. He's not a Julio Jones or AJ Green type of prospect. He seems more likely to go in the teens, but he could shut me up by running super fast. *** Who should they draft, a QB, but who will they draft an edge, DB or Leonard Fournette. Yeah, I agree. I would consider Williams in the teens if we were to trade down and had at least an additional 2nd rounder. And yes, he would have to run a great 40, that's just the way it works in the draft- whether its right or wrong, WRs drop if they run slow 40 times. And I am not at all confident he will run a great 40. They should only draft a QB if they really, really like the guy. You don't just take a QB b/c he's one of the top 3 prospects. Especially with Hack waiting in the wings as the developmental future QB and this draft being considered 'weak' at the QB position. Odds are they go Fournette simply based off BPA reasoning, or they take one of the top CBs/S's (of which there should be plenty to choose from). I don't see them taking a pass rusher b/c I think its a bot early to take a guy like Tim Williams, Garrett and possibly Barnette will be off the board. Should be interesting to see what they do if Fournette, Watson and Barnett are ALL on the board at 6. A scenarios where on top of having this tough choice between the 3 players, they will most likely have teams offering them trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 If they take a back (which they won't) I surely hope they take Dalvin Cook over Fournette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 It will be mike or tim Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 On 1/11/2017 at 11:49 AM, kelly said: It is early, but who should we draft ?.. cheers ~ ~ soooo.. Mel Kiper's first mock draft: Jets pass on QB Deshaun Watson play 0:43 / 2:08 1:13 12:15 PM ET Rich CiminiESPN Staff Writer Facebook Twitter Facebook Messenger Pinterest Email print comment The mock draft season is upon us, with ESPN's Mel Kiper, Jr. releasing his first version on Thursday. First, let's say this: Any mock draft before the scouting combine, pro days and free agency is strictly guesswork. At this point, no one knows what teams are thinking. Things will crystallize (hopefully) once we get into late March and early April. Enough of the disclaimers; Let's get to Kiper's mock. Kiper has the New York Jets selecting Ohio State cornerback Marshon Lattimore with the sixth pick. Well, the Jets need a cornerback -- a new Darrelle Revis, if you will -- and Lattimore is generally regarded as the top cornerback prospect in the draft. He's described as a more talented version of former Ohio State teammate Eli Apple, who went 10th last year to the Giants. I'm not going to critique Lattimore this early in the process, although it should be noted he started only one season. It's hard to evaluate a corner off TV, but he certainly didn't stand out to me against Clemson in the College Football Playoff semifinals. What's intriguing about Kiper's mock is the player the Jets don't pick -- quarterback Deshaun Watson, who goes 10th to the Bills. If he's still on the board for the quarterback-needy Jets ... well, that would be a dramatic moment. Could they afford to pass on one of the most accomplished college quarterbacks in recent memory? It'll be a talking point over the next three months. How they address the position in free agency will impact that debate. > http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/66443/mel-kipers-first-mock-draft-jets-pass-on-qb-deshaun-watson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jets rooter Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 On 1/11/2017 at 0:22 PM, Stonehands said: Based on the makeup of our roster and where our holes are the greatest, in my opinion, the best choice for us would be Cam Robinson LT Alabama. I think once the combine happens and all of the film work is done, he is a legitimate choice at number 6 and would help us for the next 10 years at that position. Also, the drop off in this draft at that position is steep after him. Build an offensive line and your quarterback play is improved immediately. Look at the Cowboys for that model. without a doubt number 1 fournette,number 2 garette boles number 3quincy Wilson.these are all winning picks.the jets cannot afford mistakes this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetHammer Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 1st time poster - UK based so not as easy to see all college players - if anyone can recommend online places to watch tape that would be appreciated. This won't be popular because it is another 1st rounder on D, but I really like the look of Malik Hooker - wouldn't that allow Pryor to get pushed up nearer the box...if he is compared to an Ed Reed then surely we take him. Would he be available in a trade down because of his position? I know our tackle position sucks but if the draft class is not strong at the position, I wouldn't take one, I would address that in free agency - too many needs elsewhere for the Jets to take a punt in draft - not to mention other teams needing one - get D sorted at all levels as the draft is strong in that area. If CB class is deep we can also take one later in the draft and another in free agency. If Taylor does come loose from Bills take him and then a running back in draft (like Alvin Kamara). New OC can scheme around shaky o-line play - works for Seahawks with a mobile QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lray Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 1st time poster - UK based so not as easy to see all college players - if anyone can recommend online places to watch tape that would be appreciated. This won't be popular because it is another 1st rounder on D, but I really like the look of Malik Hooker - wouldn't that allow Pryor to get pushed up nearer the box...if he is compared to an Ed Reed then surely we take him. Would he be available in a trade down because of his position? I know our tackle position sucks but if the draft class is not strong at the position, I wouldn't take one, I would address that in free agency - too many needs elsewhere for the Jets to take a punt in draft - not to mention other teams needing one - get D sorted at all levels as the draft is strong in that area. If CB class is deep we can also take one later in the draft and another in free agency. If Taylor does come loose from Bills take him and then a running back in draft (like Alvin Kamara). New OC can scheme around shaky o-line play - works for Seahawks with a mobile QB. Hey fella. Also living in London myself. I'm a Hooker fan too but would prefer like most people on here to trade back. I use draft breakdown.com for college tape. It's a pretty awesome site.LSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetHammer Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Cheers, thanks Lray...will he be there later on - probably not - I just hope we find another hit like Williams - they are players with the right attitude you can get behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lray Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 He'll be long gone but there'll be plenty of value for one of our many needs around the 15-25 mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYDreamer Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 I'll tell you what: If the first 3 teams who are all QB needy goes something like this: Clevenland Mitch Trabisky (NC), SF Deshawn Watson, and Chicago goes with Deshon Kisier. there is a possibility Myles Garrett could fall to the Jets at 6. Hey why not, Leonard Williams fell to us at 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 16 hours ago, NYDreamer said: I'll tell you what: If the first 3 teams who are all QB needy goes something like this: Clevenland Mitch Trabisky (NC), SF Deshawn Watson, and Chicago goes with Deshon Kisier. there is a possibility Myles Garrett could fall to the Jets at 6. Hey why not, Leonard Williams fell to us at 6 That absolutely is possible. Leonard Williams was supposed to be a top 3 pick in 2015 Only thing stopping it is none of the qb's are rated as highly as Winston or Mariota but that could change if they have strong combine workouts and interviews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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