JetsFanatic Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18455802/chargers-expected-announce-move-san-diego-los-angeles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin L Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Sources: Chargers plan to announce move from San Diego to Los Angeles Facebook Twitter Facebook Messenger Pinterest Email comment 10:19 PM ET Adam SchefterESPN Senior Writer Almost one year to the day that the Ramsmoved to Los Angeles, the San Diego Chargers now likely are planning to do the same. The Chargers plan to announce as early as Thursday that they are moving to Los Angeles, ending a 55-year stint with San Diego and returning to their birthplace, league sources said. The Chargers played their inaugural season in Los Angeles in 1960 before moving to San Diego in 1961. The Chargers have notified NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, and other league owners, of their intent to move to Los Angeles for the 2017 season, sources said. But as one league source cautioned Wednesday night, Chargers chairman Dean Spanos had yet to send a formal relocation letter to the NFL, yet to notify public officials in Los Angeles or San Diego of the team's move, or even tell the members of the San Diego organization about his plans. The source insisted nothing is final. But unless Spanos unexpectedly changes his mind at the last moment -- and there certainly have been enough plot twists in this San Diego stadium saga -- the Chargers will be moving to Los Angeles. This is said to have been an extremely difficult decision for Spanos to reach, sources said. While the economics of the decision have been clear, Spanos' loyalty and connection to San Diego have countered it. But in the end, Spanos' efforts to find a new stadium are now in their 16th year, with no solution in sight. This stalemate is occurring at a time when the Rams are becoming more established in the Los Angeles market. Spanos is said to believe he needs to start fighting for the Los Angeles market as soon as possible. As of Wednesday night, the Chargers' intent was to become the second team in less than a year to move to Los Angeles, giving the city two NFL teams after it went more than two decades without having one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Another NFL team in town...the first one sucks, hopefully this product will be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 No teams to two. Then everyone gets bored and eventually back to no teams again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecitylimits Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I live in LA. Don't think either will do well here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew007b Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 least charger fans do not have to travel that far but still....sad to see a franchise move like that. Wondering what the Raiders will do next..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Kinda sucks. Never been there, but figured San Diego would've been one of the better places to visit for an away game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I'm assuming the Chargers will be sharing the Coliseum with the Rams until the Rams new stadium is finished. Then they'll share that, too. Funny, the new joint will be called City of Champions Stadium. I guess they took their cue from The New Dump, a/k/a MetLife in more delusional quarters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I really feel badly for the fans. FF fans don't care as much but to the folks who have attachment to a team and their locations with them this really hurts those folks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Maxman said: No teams to two. Then everyone gets bored and eventually back to no teams again. This is what I was gonna say. The locals are well used to never attending an NFL game, they're not gonna be so quick to start going every week. The Raiders will be the big winners in this game of musical stadiums. They may struggle to develop a home field advantage, but they'll be sold out every week with their opponents' fans making Vegas their #1 road trip priority. Hell, I don't gamble, but I'd use the Jets as an excuse to see the city and an Elvis impersonator or two. And I could probably put together a party of 6-8 without even trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Maxman said: No teams to two. Then everyone gets bored and eventually back to no teams again. But it's gonna' be one hell of s good time before ownership starts looking for a new location in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 As a San Diegan this move is all about greed on the Spanos family. They essentially want the city of San Diego to give them a stadium so they can make millions of extra money, and increase their valuation by maybe a billion all while giving nothing back to the city and never ever really negotiating in good faith. There have been a number of very strong proposals from Chula Vista and even Escondido which are really part of the extended San Diego but the Spanos' always refused to really add anything to the costs and instead consistently asking for additional perks such as free land that they could develop and take all that money too. They felt that San Diego being a small market would link and ultimately cave to their game of chicken but they didn't. Hard reality is that unless the city can make additional revenue from the stadium, a new stadium and keeping the Chargers has very little economic impact on the city. It's only really 8 events a year, not like the Padres that create significant revenue from 80+ events at Petco. The Spanos family is in for a very rude awakening. Not many San Diegans wlll follow them to the new Stadium in my opinion, and LA will not embrace them either. Plus all they are doing is renting the use of the LA stadium not building an asset for themselves. Plus they have to pay like a $500 million relocation fee. They could have taken that money, found an angel willing to invest a few hundred million for partial ownership and built their own stadium outright, but they are just too greedy. Would not shock me if this report is yet another chickensh*t attempt at a power move both those losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 The NFL, winning hearts and minds...... I've lived in San Diego and the town loves that team. A real tragedy, truly. But as a baseball fan, part of me laughs at the NFL being driven mad by greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Fast forward five years and the NFL is debating on where to move two teams from LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 What a horrible decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 LA can not support one team much less two- another blunder by the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 56 minutes ago, New York Mick said: Fast forward five years and the NFL is debating on where to move two teams from LA. Agreed. And it's a 2 hour plus drive each way, not like many San Diego season ticket holders are going to follow the team north. Just awful. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Here is the thing: The Los Angeles Stadium and Entertainment District at Hollywood Park is where the Rams and the Chargers are going to play. Knowing this, how has Dodge NOT bought all the rights to the name of this? Is it just me, or is this a marketing opportunity lost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 10 hours ago, Kevin L said: Sources: Chargers plan to announce move from San Diego to Los Angeles Facebook Twitter Facebook Messenger Pinterest Email comment 10:19 PM ET Adam SchefterESPN Senior Writer Almost one year to the day that the Ramsmoved to Los Angeles, the San Diego Chargers now likely are planning to do the same. The Chargers plan to announce as early as Thursday that they are moving to Los Angeles, ending a 55-year stint with San Diego and returning to their birthplace, league sources said. The Chargers played their inaugural season in Los Angeles in 1960 before moving to San Diego in 1961. The Chargers have notified NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, and other league owners, of their intent to move to Los Angeles for the 2017 season, sources said. But as one league source cautioned Wednesday night, Chargers chairman Dean Spanos had yet to send a formal relocation letter to the NFL, yet to notify public officials in Los Angeles or San Diego of the team's move, or even tell the members of the San Diego organization about his plans. The source insisted nothing is final. This sounds like a ploy on Spanos part. He is trying to bring San Diego to the table on his terms. By announcing this but not filing any paperwork He can always go back and get a better deal by threatening to follow through with the move. Spanos knows LA can barely support one team and supporting two will be a challenge. He is using the move to try and force San Diego to sweeten the deal. Spanos is playing a dangerous game here. If San Diego sticks to their guns they lose their team and Spanos will be forced to move to LA which could be a disaster for him and the Chargers. Spanos played his card. Your move San Diego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, JetFaninMI said: This sounds like a ploy on Spanos part. He is trying to bring San Diego to the table on his terms. By announcing this but not filing any paperwork He can always go back and get a better deal by threatening to follow through with the move. Spanos knows LA can barely support one team and supporting two will be a challenge. He is using the move to try and force San Diego to sweeten the deal. Spanos is playing a dangerous game here. If San Diego sticks to their guns they lose their team and Spanos will be forced to move to LA which could be a disaster for him and the Chargers. Spanos played his card. Your move San Diego. Cool lets make the rich richer and screw the taxpayers How long before Woody threatens to move the jets to London? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 this is a sad day in the NFL. LA doesn't care about having a team and now they will have 2 while the Chargers were beloved in SD and they will lose their team. 2 of our greatest wins ever happened in SD('04 WC, '09 div) so I will miss them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, thadude said: Cool lets make the rich richer and screw the taxpayers How long before Woody threatens to move the jets to London? Way of the world pal. No matter who is at the helm that's what it always comes too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-chargers-to-la-plaschke-20170111-story.html Not a Bill Plaschke fan but this is a good article. This won't end well for the Chargers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 34 minutes ago, Jet Life said: http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-chargers-to-la-plaschke-20170111-story.html Not a Bill Plaschke fan but this is a good article. This won't end well for the Chargers Seriously. This will be an epic mistake for them. And, it makes no sense. Take the relocation money they have to spend, and that's half of buying a new stadium. As it is, they won't even own a stadium, they'll just rent it. What kind of NFL team just wants to rent another team's stadium? (hahaha) No one will go see them play. No one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 10 hours ago, thecitylimits said: I live in LA. Don't think either will do well here. Personally, I don't think the Las Vegas Raiders will do very well either. All so dumb, these moves. Not "New Jersey Jets" levels of dumb, but still..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/chargers-plan-to-play-in-30000-seat-stubhub-center/ar-AAlMrqT?OCID=ansmsnnews11 Chargers will temporarily play at the Stub Hub Center, a 30,000 seat stadium until 2019 when they will join the Rams at in a new stadium. This is ridiculous. They have to be bluffing SD. I didn't think the NFL would even allow a team to play in this small a facility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I believe that an owner has a right to move the team but the naming rights and so on of that existing organization should have to remain within a geographic area. Franchise owner in many other areas has similar restrictions Like the Ravens, move the team but name remains and another owner who can make a tremendous profit can pick up that name in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Feel bad for San diego fans but good for the city for telling the NFL to stick it regarding building a stadium if that was the main reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Just now, Charlie Brown said: I believe that an owner has a right to move the team but the naming rights and so on of that existing organization should have to remain within a geographic area. Franchise owner in many other areas has similar restrictions Like the Ravens, move the team but name remains and another owner who can make a tremendous profit can pick up that name in that area. Why? When Barron Hilton started that team they were the Los Angeles Chargers. Did San Diego pay anything for the move? The owners own the team and the name. It's part of the asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 10 hours ago, Matthew007b said: least charger fans do not have to travel that far but still....sad to see a franchise move like that. Wondering what the Raiders will do next..? That is the ride from hell. SD to LA on the 405 sucks! I have done it and it took 4 hours during rush hour. Weekends are equally as congested and crowded. I just cannot understand the rationale of moving 2 teams into a dead market. The Rams moved out of LA because they had no support. They had no support last season upon return - I read somewhere that they were dying with failed ticket sales, and now they are bringing another team in, one that is really alien to that city. Who is going to go to those games I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 SD is right to not bleed its residents for a new football stadium. All cities get out of the stadium is bragging rights which is not good value. Cities have to stop racing to the bottom to keep pro teams. Eventually these moves are going to seriously hurt the NFL. Few people will want to commit financially to becoming fans of a team who might up and leave in five or ten years when they decide they want a new stadium or new city parking or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 If the Jets left NY/NJ...would you still follow them as a fan? oh helllll no. and how many loser LA residents are gonna actually switch their allegiance? So who actually roots for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 56 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: ..... the naming rights and so on of that existing organization should have to remain within a geographic area. Damn right it should. But somehow it seems like those rules have been totally shelved, otherwise we'd have new names for the Chargers, Rams and Raiders soon, and I've heard not a peep of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 48 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Why? When Barron Hilton started that team they were the Los Angeles Chargers. Did San Diego pay anything for the move? The owners own the team and the name. It's part of the asset. I understand the free alienation of capital and so on but I think that these teams have a bond with the communities in which they reside. Even Adam Smith recognized that capital divorced from the people or the area is destructive and corrosive. In effect I believe that such moves which disregard the fans who have supported the team and the league are harmful to the league but of course they, the NFL, are free to do as the choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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