flgreen Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Report: Jets hire Robert Nunn to be new DL coach 158SHARES SHARE TWEET EMAIL By: Gary Phillips | 3 hours ago The Jets have added another new coach to Todd Bowles’ staff. New York has hired former Cleveland Browns defensive line coach Robert Nunn to fill the same position, according to Alex Marvez of Sporting News. Follow Alex Marvez ✔@alexmarvez Source tells @sn_nfl that @nyjets have hired former @Browns defensive line coach Robert Nunn for the same position. 3:33 PM - 20 Jan 2017 3535 Retweets 1414 likes Nunn, an NFL coach for 11 years, was just fired by Cleveland. He will replace the recently fired Pepper Johnson in New York. Nunn is an interesting hire for the Jets, as the Browns had the league’s second-worst run defense in 2016. Cleveland let up more than 142 yards rushing per game. Also, Nunn has experience coaching 4-3 setups, while the Jets have typically played with three-man fronts under Bowles. On the other hand, Nunn is familiar with New York football. He coached the Giants D-line between 2010 and 2015 before signing on with the Browns in 2016. The defensive line is an area of strength for Gang Green, but 2016 saw stars like Muhammad Wilkerson and Sheldon Richardson play poorly. The latter likely won’t be back, but Wilkerson will look to recover from injury and rebound under his new coach, Nunn, in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 I think I will wait until the Jets make this announcement . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Let's hope this one sticks...I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 I keep seeing things about SR not being here. SR is in his contract year and will probably play harder than ever to get paid. If not by the Jets, then by someone else. The Jets may as well get the best year out of him and a Comp pick subsequently. That means drafting a speedy DE to go 4/3 for real instead of this pseudo whatever they were playing last season This team really needs a DC than can improvise, innovate and make something out of the situation that Macc causes with his roster mismanagement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 The Jets fired Pepper Johnson just to fire Pepper Johnson. It's not Johnson's fault that Wilkerson is a dog (and it's not Bowles' fault either). It's also not Johnson's fault that Bowles think it's a good idea to play Richardson at linebacker. McLendon and Leonard Williams played well. Nunn is fine, but the DL coach really had nothing to do with Wilkerson and Richardson's poor play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 So we are taking the Browns garbage afterall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 When you have a lame duck coach you are going to have a hard time filling openings with anything but seconds. Top candidates are going to go where there is some consistency. Woody should have probably cut ties with Bowles at the end of the season. Keeping him is only delaying the inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Joejet said: When you have a lame duck coach you are going to have a hard time filling openings with anything but seconds. Top candidates are going to go where there is some consistency. Woody should have probably cut ties with Bowles at the end of the season. Keeping him is only delaying the inevitable. So who were the top DL coaches out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKnight83 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 48 minutes ago, detectivekimble said: The Jets fired Pepper Johnson just to fire Pepper Johnson. It's not Johnson's fault that Wilkerson is a dog (and it's not Bowles' fault either). It's also not Johnson's fault that Bowles think it's a good idea to play Richardson at linebacker. McLendon and Leonard Williams played well. Nunn is fine, but the DL coach really had nothing to do with Wilkerson and Richardson's poor play. I am pretty sure my German Shepherd has a higher IQ than Pepper Johnson has. The man was about as stupid as they come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 21 minutes ago, C Mart said: So who were the top DL coaches out there? My statement was more on being able to fill all openings and not necessarily just the DL coach. I think we signed a good DB coach but lost out on Hurtt who I believe is a good coach. Hurtt coached DL before he took over the LB job under Fox so I guess he could be considered one. My concern with Nunn is that he is more associated with a 4-3 defense and unless we are changing that isn't our base. It's also concerning that the Giants let him go. I understand that Cleveland changed defensive coordinator and he wanted to bring in his own guy so it's not fair to hold that against him. We still haven't filled the OC or QB coaches jobs which are huge based on our young qb's. There have been a number of both positions filled without us even getting a sniff into interviewing the top names associated with the positions. I am not as concerned about the RB coach job but that is also open as well as the OLB job. I hope I'm wrong and there is a plan in place that will come together any day but I doubt it. I think we can all agree that most coaches want some sort of security and they won't get that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSJets Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Joejet said: My statement was more on being able to fill all openings and not necessarily just the DL coach. I think we signed a good DB coach but lost out on Hurtt who I believe is a good coach. Hurtt coached DL before he took over the LB job under Fox so I guess he could be considered one. My concern with Nunn is that he is more associated with a 4-3 defense and unless we are changing that isn't our base. It's also concerning that the Giants let him go. I understand that Cleveland changed defensive coordinator and he wanted to bring in his own guy so it's not fair to hold that against him. We still haven't filled the OC or QB coaches jobs which are huge based on our young qb's. There have been a number of both positions filled without us even getting a sniff into interviewing the top names associated with the positions. I am not as concerned about the RB coach job but that is also open as well as the OLB job. I hope I'm wrong and there is a plan in place that will come together any day but I doubt it. I think we can all agree that most coaches want some sort of security and they won't get that here. Perhaps the coaches they're interested in are still in the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Kind of makes me think the Jets could make a play for JPP in free agency and move to a 4-3. It would be a great 4-3 front if they were to add someone like JPP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 49 minutes ago, RSJ said: Kind of makes me think the Jets could make a play for JPP in free agency and move to a 4-3. It would be a great 4-3 front if they were to add someone like JPP. Two thumbs up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 4 hours ago, Joejet said: When you have a lame duck coach you are going to have a hard time filling openings with anything but seconds. Top candidates are going to go where there is some consistency. Woody should have probably cut ties with Bowles at the end of the season. Keeping him is only delaying the inevitable. Or he should have announced that Bowles was safe and not going anywhere. Which he did. But some still want to think of him as lame duck when hes clearly not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joejet Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 9 hours ago, KSJets said: Perhaps the coaches they're interested in are still in the playoffs I hope you are right. I am a long time fan and want nothing but success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 7 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Or he should have announced that Bowles was safe and not going anywhere. Which he did. But some still want to think of him as lame duck when hes clearly not. We can certainly agree to disagree on this. If Woody wanted to make a real statement that he was safe he could have given him a one year extension which in my opinion would have made it easier for Bowles to fill his staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 12 hours ago, detectivekimble said: The Jets fired Pepper Johnson just to fire Pepper Johnson. It's not Johnson's fault that Wilkerson is a dog (and it's not Bowles' fault either). It's also not Johnson's fault that Bowles think it's a good idea to play Richardson at linebacker. McLendon and Leonard Williams played well. Nunn is fine, but the DL coach really had nothing to do with Wilkerson and Richardson's poor play. ultimately no but the dline coach is supposed to head things off before they get to the head coaches level. no telling what else went on but if pepper let wilk miss team meetings and didn't try as hard as he could to deal with it then he deserved to be launched. as for nunn, he seems like a good hire. he was with the giaints for 5 seasons under coughlin so he must be doing something right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Maybe this means we play more 4-3 lines with Mo and Sheldon as DEs and Simon, Leo, and Mclendon as DTs. That would play more to the strength of our personell. On O if they can't get a decent OC just promote the WR coach to that position and hopefully he also runs more with RBs and would obviously keep the same O. The O system wasn't bad, it's probmlems were Gailey and Fitz's stubborness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 We can still make a statement by being more aggressive on the financial package. That's another way for us to provide longer term security to a coach we want. I just wish Bowles was reporting to Macc, rather than Woody. Then Macc would have oversight on Bowles coaching hire. Instead now he's out of the loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 49 minutes ago, Joejet said: We can certainly agree to disagree on this. If Woody wanted to make a real statement that he was safe he could have given him a one year extension which in my opinion would have made it easier for Bowles to fill his staff. No he wouldn't. Those are two different things. Bowles has what 2 years left on his deal? He doesn't need to be extended and no one was looking for him to get extended. Just the announcement that his job wasn't on the line was enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 44 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: No he wouldn't. Those are two different things. Bowles has what 2 years left on his deal? He doesn't need to be extended and no one was looking for him to get extended. Just the announcement that his job wasn't on the line was enough. Yes he has 2 years left on his contract. Almost no coach goes into the final year of their contract without an extension which would be the end of the 2017 season. All Woody basically said was that Bowles was safe for 2017. Any incoming coach would be looking for more security than that, especially coming into a situation with no definitive qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 42 minutes ago, Joejet said: Yes he has 2 years left on his contract. Almost no coach goes into the final year of their contract without an extension which would be the end of the 2017 season. All Woody basically said was that Bowles was safe for 2017. Any incoming coach would be looking for more security than that, especially coming into a situation with no definitive qb. Exactly, so there is no reason to add another year on his contract at this time. No incoming coach is looking for long term security and will be fooled by an extra year on his deal. What did Rex have 3 years left? How did that help Rob? Only thing they know is they'll be there for one season, nothing beyond that is secured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 SO if I understand the organization chart, this hire was made by the hot dog vendor in section 229, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Wtf is with the format? It took 5 minutes to scroll through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 14 hours ago, KSJets said: Perhaps the coaches they're interested in are still in the playoffs Perhaps, but that would be pretty foolish. 1) What would make the Jets FO think a coach would leave a final 4 team to come play for a lame duck HC? 2) What would make the Jets FO think that any of the remaining teams would give the Jets permission to talk to one of their coaches? Actually the more I think of it, that's probably what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Hopefully this means Bowles will go to 4-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Jets will draft Myles Garret. Best Linebacker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 2 hours ago, flgreen said: Perhaps, but that would be pretty foolish. 1) What would make the Jets FO think a coach would leave a final 4 team to come play for a lame duck HC? 2) What would make the Jets FO think that any of the remaining teams would give the Jets permission to talk to one of their coaches? Actually the more I think of it, that's probably what they are doing. 1) Jets wouldn't be thinking that. only doom & gloom fans and typical ny media would think that. 2) these guys all know people around the league as well as agents. Safe to guess they have an idea at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexJet Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 I once heard money can cause irrational behavior. We have that going for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 40 minutes ago, C Mart said: 1) Jets wouldn't be thinking that. only doom & gloom fans and typical ny media would think that. 2) these guys all know people around the league as well as agents. Safe to guess they have an idea at this point. 1) Call it doom and gloom , but it's a long shot Bowles will be a HC this time next year. 2) Like they did with the Eagles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 44 minutes ago, flgreen said: 1) Call it doom and gloom , but it's a long shot Bowles will be a HC this time next year. 2) Like they did with the Eagles? 1) as I said "The Jets wouldn't be thinking that" 2) as I said 'at this point'. Not 3 weeks ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, C Mart said: 1) as I said "The Jets wouldn't be thinking that" 2) as I said 'at this point'. Not 3 weeks ago You have to admit, the Jets OC job isn't the best opportunity for a prospect who has other options. Bowles is on thin ice. Your right the Jets probably aren't thinking this way. They should have been a few weeks ago. Yes, they'll get some one to fill all their coaching spots, but it won't be with the hot model, it'll be with the chubby pimply girl who no one else is paying attention to. Most teams aren't willing to let a good OC, who they have under contract, move laterally. Or a good QB coach move to a potential rival either. Just not smart business. We'll see how it all plays out, but in all honesty the Jets are not in a good spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 On January 21, 2017 at 9:13 PM, GKnight83 said: I am pretty sure my German Shepherd has a higher IQ than Pepper Johnson has. The man was about as stupid as they come. He was still a scapegoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 19 minutes ago, detectivekimble said: He was still a scapegoat. Overall I thought the DL underachieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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