Joe W. Namath Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 18 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: And what proof do you have that Quinn would have come here? Thats not the point. The point is they made the wrong choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsmanjb Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Lizard King said: To the Super Bowl. They're not going to beat the patsies. I wish it was the cowboys because they could've actually beaten them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 40 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: We had a shot at Quinn. We decided Bowles was our guy. As usual, we made the wrong choice. QB-less, horrendous defense, offensively inept Jets orrrrrr Matt Ryan led, loaded offense, some decent pieces on defense Falcons. Where the f*ck do you think he was going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Thats not the point. The point is they made the wrong choice. Right, just completely ignore the fact that he probably would have chosen another team over us guys. Oh, also ignore the fact that the two guys, as coaching prospects, were neck and neck but waiting on one could have cost us both. Obviously none of that is a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 To those who wanted Dan Quinn - what do you think his record would've been w/ the Jets this year? I'm guessing 5-11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 In a 32 team league, all you need is everything. Owner, GM, coach, QB, line, backs, receivers, TE, run stuffers, pass rushers, tackling machines, cover guys, kickers, luck and health Or just cheat like a Vegas mobster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: To those who wanted Dan Quinn - what do you think his record would've been w/ the Jets this year? I'm guessing 5-11. Depends on the personnel choices he would have made with the GM and who he decided to start and sit what plays he would have called what timeouts and game time decisions he would have made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 16 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: To those who wanted Dan Quinn - what do you think his record would've been w/ the Jets this year? I'm guessing 5-11. Who cares. Dan Quinn wasnt pals w/ Brandon Marshall so he doesnt bring that cancer in. Maybe Dan Quinn tells Mac he dont want washed up revis back. Maybe dan quinn slaps Mo and Sheldon upside the head and they dont treat their job like its a joke. What you guys are missing is that the Jets record doesnt matter right now. It about establishing a culture w/ winning players. And we have neither because the coach is an assclown that none of these players respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 45 minutes ago, Mogglez said: QB-less, horrendous defense, offensively inept Jets orrrrrr Matt Ryan led, loaded offense, some decent pieces on defense Falcons. Where the f*ck do you think he was going? You forgot to mention TRUE businessman owner versus the Trust fund baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, peekskill68 said: I think this thread is more relevant than many are giving credit. It's way too easy to just say that Quinn has a franchise QB and we don't. You don't get to the SB on just a franchise QB. Tomlin and McCarthy know that. And it's not all about the rosters either. It takes preparation and in-game management and pulling the right strings to get the most out of your players. Quinn is doing that. Bowles it seems to me is not... Sure you can. Peyton Manning went to the SB w/ four different coaches. Jim Caldwell went 14-2 and made a SB appearance w/ Peyton . Two years later, he goes 2-14 without Peyton. Matt Ryan was the best QB in the league this year. No surprise that the Falcons are going to the SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, southparkcpa said: You forgot to mention TRUE businessman owner versus the Trust fund baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsmanjb Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 30 minutes ago, Larz said: In a 32 team league, all you need is everything. Owner, GM, coach, QB, line, backs, receivers, TE, run stuffers, pass rushers, tackling machines, cover guys, kickers, luck and health Or just cheat like a Vegas mobster Or just cheat like the patsies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 @Mogglez Maybe if we decided to wait for Quinn then Bowles would have taken the Atlanta job and we'd have Quinn by default? *shrugs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Barry Switzer won a Superbowl. I just read he's available for the Jets to hire as HC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 57 minutes ago, detectivekimble said: Sure you can. Peyton Manning went to the SB w/ four different coaches. Jim Caldwell went 14-2 and made a SB appearance w/ Peyton . Two years later, he goes 2-14 without Peyton. Matt Ryan was the best QB in the league this year. No surprise that the Falcons are going to the SB. So if I'm following your logic, we'd be in the Super Bowl this year if we had Matt Ryan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Lizard King said: To the Super Bowl. He's so money I call him Dank Win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 3 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Your point being? If we had hired Quinn and traded a 7th round pick for Matt Ryan and Julio Jones we'd be in the super bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, thadude said: If we had hired Quinn and traded a 7th round pick for Matt Ryan and Julio Jones we'd be in the super bowl Lol thanks for clearing that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 8 hours ago, King P said: @Mogglez Maybe if we decided to wait for Quinn then Bowles would have taken the Atlanta job and we'd have Quinn by default? *shrugs* Very well might have been the case. My point was more along the lines of Atlanta being a far more desirable job to take. In fact, I think Bowles, whether he ends up being good here or bad, made a personal mistake by letting us keep him here until he signed without visiting Atlanta. Obviously at the time I was excited, but I was still surprised. Quinn is reaping the benefits of having a franchise guy in place. Don't get me wrong, he's done what he's had to do, and definitely deserves some credit for getting the Falcons over the hump that Mike Smith never could, but we're not honestly missing any of Quinn's coaching ability. We're missing "the guy" under center. That's the huge glaring difference with these two franchises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: Who cares. Dan Quinn wasnt pals w/ Brandon Marshall so he doesnt bring that cancer in. Maybe Dan Quinn tells Mac he dont want washed up revis back. Maybe dan quinn slaps Mo and Sheldon upside the head and they dont treat their job like its a joke. What you guys are missing is that the Jets record doesnt matter right now. It about establishing a culture w/ winning players. And we have neither because the coach is an assclown that none of these players respect. Maybe we wait around for Dan Quinn and he still doesn't f*cking come here so none of this sh*t still doesn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 If Quinn had a choice between a team with a good QB and us, he was never coming here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 To those who wanted Dan Quinn - what do you think his record would've been w/ the Jets this year? I'm guessing 5-11. Yes, this is just dumb. They would've been calling for his head with Fitz throwing picks.We chose the wrong QB. Rather have Ryan over Quinn any daySent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 10 hours ago, Lizard King said: Bryan Cox! i liked cox when he played for the jets. not so much when he was a doltfin. the guy always has fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, DetroitRed said: Yes, this is just dumb. They would've been calling for his head with Fitz throwing picks. We chose the wrong QB. Rather have Ryan over Quinn any day Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app For the record I think he means Matt Ryan (not Rex). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Stats aside, they game planned Rodgers pretty well. Kept him in the pocket, got some hits on him, etc. he still made some plays and didn't get help from his receivers at times, but Quinn's squad did pretty well. He's their HC, he seems to interact with players on all sides of the ball. He made the call to hire Shannahan. The falcons have underachieved the entire Matt Ryan era. He's doing something right. I remember Bowles presser after beating the Giants last year. He was asked about Fitz's run on 4th down. He didn't even know the play call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, jmat321 said: Stats aside, they game planned Rodgers pretty well. Kept him in the pocket, got some hits on him, etc. he still made some plays and didn't get help from his receivers at times, but Quinn's squad did pretty well. He's their HC, he seems to interact with players on all sides of the ball. He made the call to hire Shannahan. The falcons have underachieved the entire Matt Ryan era. He's doing something right. I remember Bowles presser after beating the Giants last year. He was asked about Fitz's run on 4th down. He didn't even know the play call. I'm sure Quinn is doing a solid job (just like Mike McCarthy does). But does anyone feel like he's the difference maker? If he had come to the Jets would we have been in the AFC title game this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 24 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I'm sure Quinn is doing a solid job (just like Mike McCarthy does). But does anyone feel like he's the difference maker? If he had come to the Jets would we have been in the AFC title game this year? Only morons think Quinn is the "magic ingredient" because if he was what happened in 2015??? He has a QB who is playing on an MVP level which covers over a TON of flaws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Quinn had a established QB to work with - that is the big difference their defense his speciality not really anything special for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 The Seahawks defense never missed Quinn. He would have never picked us over working with Matt Ryan The Falcons' D was ranked 25th overall this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, KRL said: Only morons think Quinn is the "magic ingredient" because if he was what happened in 2015??? He has a QB who is playing on an MVP level which covers over a TON of flaws 25th ranked defense with Matt Ryan and Julio Jones moving the ball all season long with the #2 ranked offense Put it in perspective our crappy defense was ranked 28th with the #30 ranked offense with a clown carnival of quarterbacks going 3 and out all day or throwing interceptions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Here's a question for the "Quinn boosters", what would our record have been in 2015 & 2016 if we had Matt Ryan instead of that clown Fitzpatrick??? In my opinion we would've been 12-4 in 2015 and 10-6 in 2016 with all the flaws we had as a team if we had Ryan at QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Was anyone watching the improving Falcon defense shut down the hottest QB in the NFL yesterday ? Did any of you watch as the season progressed ? Not only do the Falcons have Matt Ryan but they probably have the best RB tandem in the NFL and an Offensive line that can both run block and pass protect and that's not even mentioning who I feel is the best WR in the NFL in Julio Jones. Also while this Defense has given up some points and yards they clearly got better as the season went on and that was obvious yesterday and if you watched them during the season their Defense did make some plays and was extremely aggressive. After saying all of that the Jets impatience on not waiting to have a shot at Quinn because Seattle was in the playoffs was yet another mistake to chalk up for the NY Jets I mean what were they worried they would lose out on Todd Freakin Bowles ? LOL . Its obvious Dan Quinn has his Atlanta defense on the right path and since the offense needs no help they will be adding even more young players in this years draft to an already young defense who added some nice Vets like Freeny to fill some pass rushing voids as a specialty pass rusher. How many times did they Hit Rodgers yesterday ? A lot Bottom line Dan Quinn is going to the SB in year 2 Todd Bowles and his entire team regressed. When I look at Atlanta's schedule they played Tampa 2 x NO 2 x Carolina 2 x (all tough games) they played Seattle they played the Eagles they played KC they played Arizona they played Denver they played Oakland the only 3 teams you could say that were bad on their schedule were LA, SD, and SF and SD gave a lot of teams fits and lost a lot of close games. Their schedule was tougher than ours. Dan Quinn should have been the choice and a lot of us stated that at the time so this is not hindsight. I tried to be positive about the Bowles Signing but I always wanted Quinn or make a big run at Harbaugh we did neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, KRL said: Here's a question for the "Quinn boosters", what would our record have been in 2015 & 2016 if we had Matt Ryan instead of that clown Fitzpatrick??? In my opinion we would've been 12-4 in 2015 and 10-6 in 2016 with all the flaws we had as a team if we had Ryan at QB In your opinion would the Falcons be in the Super Bowl if their head coach was Todd Bowles? Isn't that the point as opposed to having Matt Ryan vs. Fitz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, peekskill68 said: In your opinion would the Falcons be in the Super Bowl if their head coach was Todd Bowles? Isn't that the point as opposed to having Matt Ryan vs. Fitz? No that isn't the point because the disparity in QB's (the most important position) is too great. You can not dismiss the impact of an MVP QB compared to a journeyman backup. Could Quinn have won 10 games with Fitzpatrick in 2015??? Because he didn't win 10 games with Ryan in 2015 in ATL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, KRL said: No that isn't the point because the disparity in QB's (the most important position) is too great. You can not dismiss the impact of an MVP QB compared to a journeyman backup. Could Quinn have won 10 games with Fitzpatrick in 2015??? Because he didn't win 10 games with Ryan in 2015 in ATL It's totally the point. It's comparing two Jets HC candidates in identical situations. Quinn got better and Bowles got worse. Woody had no control over Matt Ryan. He DID have the option to wait on Quinn vs. hiring Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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