TuscanyTile2 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I knew he won a Superbowl as HC of the 49ers in 1994 but I had forgotten he also won in 1989. When you think "2 time Superbowl winning HC's", you think of the all-time greats. I don't think George Seifert would jump into the minds of most football fans though. Yet look at his records year in and year out w/ the 49ers. In his 8 years there, in addition to 2 Superbowl titles, he finished 1st 6 times. He won 13 or more games 4 times (half his tenure!). In his worst season he won 10 games. Also check out his amazing coaching tree. Yet does anyone think of the guy as an all-time great? Maybe because he had Joe Montana, Steve Young, Jerry Rice, etc. Now remind me again why Dan Quinn is so amazing? http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/SeifGe0.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 The only reason why Seifert did not win more titles was because of the Cowboys and Jimmie Johnson. Of course a lot of folks will say whoever had Deion Sanders was the one who was going to the Super Bowl that year. I guess it was true as well. When the Cowboys had him they won the right to go to the Super Bowl. The one time the Niners had him they went to the big game. Seifert was a great coach that carried on Bill Walsh's legacy. Walsh was the inventor of the West Coast Offense and Seifert was a great student of it. An underrated coach who does not get his due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 minute ago, JetFaninMI said: Walsh was the inventor of the West Coast Offense and Seifert was a great student of it. Seifert was the Niners defensive coordinator under Walsh. That is why he had Holmgren, Walsh's best student, as his OC. What people never gave Seifert enough credit for was his defenses. The 89 Niners were ridiculous on D. They are the best defense no one ever talks about, featuring two future Hall of Famers in Charles Haley and Ronnie Lott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, JetFaninMI said: The only reason why Seifert did not win more titles was because of the Cowboys and Jimmie Johnson. Of course a lot of folks will say whoever had Deion Sanders was the one who was going to the Super Bowl that year. I guess it was true as well. When the Cowboys had him they won the right to go to the Super Bowl. The one time the Niners had him they went to the big game. Seifert was a great coach that carried on Bill Walsh's legacy. Walsh was the inventor of the West Coast Offense and Seifert was a great student of it. An underrated coach who does not get his due. How did he do in Carolina? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said: How did he do in Carolina? No HOF QB.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 So Dan Quinn is George Seifert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 No love for Barry Switzer???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Seifert ruined his legacy in Carolina. Made people look back and say that he just rode Walsh's coattails and didn't beat the cowboys enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 4 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I knew he won a Superbowl as HC of the 49ers in 1994 but I had forgotten he also won in 1989. When you think "2 time Superbowl winning HC's", you think of the all-time greats. I don't think George Seifert would jump into the minds of most football fans though. Yet look at his records year in and year out w/ the 49ers. In his 8 years there, in addition to 2 Superbowl titles, he finished 1st 6 times. He won 13 or more games 4 times (half his tenure!). In his worst season he won 10 games. Also check out his amazing coaching tree. Yet does anyone think of the guy as an all-time great? Maybe because he had Joe Montana, Steve Young, Jerry Rice, etc. Now remind me again why Dan Quinn is so amazing? http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/SeifGe0.htm Only useful info I got from this post was maybe the Jets should look into hiring Trestman as OC, and Greg Knapp as QB coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 41 minutes ago, jmat321 said: Seifert ruined his legacy in Carolina. Made people look back and say that he just rode Walsh's coattails and didn't beat the cowboys enough. agree with that one. a lot of coaches make their names with one team and fail when move or had failed from where they came from. the other thing about seiffert is he coached before the new salary cap kicked in. right after he left the 49ers the rules changed and bartolo could no longer stockpile and sign players to ridiculous salaries. they were put in a seriously bad cap hell with took them ove 10 years to get out of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Only useful info I got from this post was maybe the Jets should look into hiring Trestman as OC, and Greg Knapp as QB coach. Also bring Aaron Kromer on as the RB coach while also working directly with the OL coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 9 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: How did he do in Carolina? Went 8-8 with an expansion team then 7-9 and so forth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 9 hours ago, Klecko73isGod said: Seifert was the Niners defensive coordinator under Walsh. That is why he had Holmgren, Walsh's best student, as his OC. What people never gave Seifert enough credit for was his defenses. The 89 Niners were ridiculous on D. They are the best defense no one ever talks about, featuring two future Hall of Famers in Charles Haley and Ronnie Lott. True enough. My mistake. Seifert was still a great coach who did not get his due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn31 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 George Seifert was a damn good football coach who remains criminally underrated and should have already had his bust in Canton. The fact that Tony Dungy got inducted before him, Jimmy Johnson, and Tom Flores is absolutely mind-boggling and just plain stupid IMHO. and stupid IMHO. As for the idiots that like to argue that he simply rode Walsh's coat-tails and thus his success is tainted, go ask Islanders fans just how difficult it is to find someone even halfway competent as the late great Al Arbour since he retired... both times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 That coaching staff is ridiculous. He had 9 future HCs (5 who later won SBs) in 10 positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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