Sperm Edwards Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 I don't know what "negativity" the OP is talking about, frankly. I have never been more positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mphtrilogy Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Even though the superbowl sucked, if I was a SF Fan, I'd be upset and my coach didn't even start yet! The NYJets don't look quite as horrible as they did 6 weeks ago.. decent coaching hires so far, now they need to ace the offseason for me to get excited about 2017, otherwise it's gonna be a long year again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 10 hours ago, Smashmouth said: the hills have eyes And after watching the 2016 Jets, they wish they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesumtenor Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 15 hours ago, SAR I said: And there is a good reason that you feel this way, as do I and many others: You have to go back to 1975 to find another season where the Jets either weren't coming off of an optimistic season or a change in head coach or a change at quarterback. If you go back through our history and think about the off-season mindset for every season since then there has always been something to be excited or interested about either because of playoff optimism or because change was coming. Just about the only benefit of the constant revolving door at head coach and quarterback is that it would peak fan interest every February. This year, we have neither. It feels like we are just going to pick up where January left off because, essentially, we are. SAR I Actually you don't have to go that far back...there was nothing to be excited about after Kotite's first season in 1995 where he turned Pete Carroll's 6-10 to 3-13... and which he followed up with 1-15... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 34 minutes ago, Awesumtenor said: Actually you don't have to go that far back...there was nothing to be excited about after Kotite's first season in 1995 where he turned Pete Carroll's 6-10 to 3-13... and which he followed up with 1-15... actually there was a lot of optimism going into 1996. we drafted keyshawn, signed O'Donnell, Jumbo, David williams, etc... no one expected us to be 1-15, we were expected to be competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Hoping for the best in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 16 hours ago, SAR I said: And there is a good reason that you feel this way, as do I and many others: You have to go back to 1975 to find another season where the Jets either weren't coming off of an optimistic season or a change in head coach or a change at quarterback. If you go back through our history and think about the off-season mindset for every season since then there has always been something to be excited or interested about either because of playoff optimism or because change was coming. Just about the only benefit of the constant revolving door at head coach and quarterback is that it would peak fan interest every February. This year, we have neither. It feels like we are just going to pick up where January left off because, essentially, we are. SAR I good grief. i get your point. every football fan feels that way about their teams. we should all be greatful for not being chiefs/browns/jags/titans/rams fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 If we can't field a good team next year, we at least need to field a likeable team. I think that, maybe as much as the 5-11 record, is why a large portion of the fanbase is so pissed off. Unlikeable team full of many unlikeable players. This process needs to start with letting Geno walk, trading Richardson, and cutting/restructuring Revis. And if we want to go full rebuild, cutting Marshall (not really in favor of this as we will likely have a young QB that could benefit his development) and Mangold (this one will really hurt). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 I will withhold judgement until I see some roster moves to comment on. and which way Mac is going with QB situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 I'm totally disinterested in this team, I just like hanging out here. There is literally nothing about this team to get excited about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 2017 will be the year we win 3 games but feel good about young players progressing. We will then enter a QB loaded draft in good position. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 What if we draft watson at 1 and mcaffery in round 2. Would you be excited then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 mcaffery will go bottom of the 1stSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 23 hours ago, SAR I said: I told you all you would rue the day Mark Sanchez was run out of town. Welcome to rue. SAR I Sanchez wasn't great, or even good, but who's been better since? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 4 hours ago, Dunnie said: mcaffery will go bottom of the 1st Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Pats book it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flushing Roots Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 On February 7, 2017 at 1:23 AM, SAR I said: It feels like we are just going to pick up where January left off because, essentially, we are. SAR I I'll take that. We are undefeated since January 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 16 hours ago, long suffering jets fan said: Sanchez wasn't great, or even good, but who's been better since? As one can see by the likes of Brett Favre, Steve Young, Matt Ryan, or even Troy Aikman or Aaron Rodgers, one can't jump to judge a rookie too quickly. What you have to ask yourself is what might have happened to Mark Sanchez if he were given proper support, what trajectory might have been taking place after '09 and '10 that was never allowed to develop. LaDanian Tomlinson, Plaxicco Burress, Braylon Edwards, Santonio Holmes, in 2009 and 2010 they were elite players, by 2012 they were replaced by scrubs, all under the guidance of Tony Sparano. Just tragic. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego My Lageman Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Bring Back Lito Shepard. ::Death moan:: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, Lego My Lageman said: Bring Back Lito Shepard. ::Death moan:: our D was never better(in my lifetime, was better when the '68 D led us to a SB) than the year Lito was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 On 2/8/2017 at 2:33 PM, SAR I said: As one can see by the likes of Brett Favre, Steve Young, Matt Ryan, or even Troy Aikman or Aaron Rodgers, one can't jump to judge a rookie too quickly. What you have to ask yourself is what might have happened to Mark Sanchez if he were given proper support, what trajectory might have been taking place after '09 and '10 that was never allowed to develop. LaDanian Tomlinson, Plaxicco Burress, Braylon Edwards, Santonio Holmes, in 2009 and 2010 they were elite players, by 2012 they were replaced by scrubs, all under the guidance of Tony Sparano. Just tragic. SAR I Agreed! After the second AFCCG season the Jets got rid of anyone who could block and protect Sanchez. Woody, LT, Tony Richardson, Hartsock (who was a great blocking tight end). Brandon Moore went the following year. Not sure when Slauson left. Regardless his protection went right down the tubes and as a result Sanchez was always under attack. Can't blame him for being a bit gun shy after that massacre, yet everyone expected better results with a declining team around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 27 minutes ago, long suffering jets fan said: Agreed! After the second AFCCG season the Jets got rid of anyone who could block and protect Sanchez. Woody, LT, Tony Richardson, Hartsock (who was a great blocking tight end). Brandon Moore went the following year. Not sure when Slauson left. Regardless his protection went right down the tubes and as a result Sanchez was always under attack. Can't blame him for being a bit gun shy after that massacre, yet everyone expected better results with a declining team around him. And it would be very Jets-like, wouldn't it? To finally find the franchise quarterback and then blow it. Self-inflicted wounds are our specialty. Namath blowing both hamstrings water skiing. Todd in the Mud Bowl. Gastineau roughing the passer. Martin fumbling Testaverde's achilles. Disrespecting Belichick. Ryan not getting the team off the bus at Pittsburgh. Sanchez makes total sense from that perspective. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 15 hours ago, SAR I said: And it would be very Jets-like, wouldn't it? To finally find the franchise quarterback and then blow it. Self-inflicted wounds are our specialty. Namath blowing both hamstrings water skiing. Todd in the Mud Bowl. Gastineau roughing the passer. Martin fumbling Testaverde's achilles. Disrespecting Belichick. Ryan not getting the team off the bus at Pittsburgh. Sanchez makes total sense from that perspective. SAR I Definitly get your line of thinking. But I also think that every team has these same pieces of bad history, right up until they finally get it right... Just takes one player or event or outcome for that bad history to be (mostly) outweighed by the good... It can still happen for the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 On February 8, 2017 at 2:33 PM, SAR I said: As one can see by the likes of Brett Favre, Steve Young, Matt Ryan, or even Troy Aikman or Aaron Rodgers, one can't jump to judge a rookie too quickly. What you have to ask yourself is what might have happened to Mark Sanchez if he were given proper support, what trajectory might have been taking place after '09 and '10 that was never allowed to develop. LaDanian Tomlinson, Plaxicco Burress, Braylon Edwards, Santonio Holmes, in 2009 and 2010 they were elite players, by 2012 they were replaced by scrubs, all under the guidance of Tony Sparano. Just tragic. SAR I That's why it's so funny Jet fans are losing their sh*t that Hack didn't play. Look at it this way, take Dak Presott & put him behind the Jets Oline last year. Sanchez WAS Dak Prescott in 2009/2010. Very similar teams, great Oline, except Prescott even had a better younger RB, a much better TE (who's an excellent blocker too), Dez Bryant, a good slot WR, Boys are pretty complete except on defense. Throwing Hackenberg to the wolves last year would have been SO Jet like, so I'm actually feeling optimistic about Macc & Bowles fortitude, sticking to the plan of bringing him along slowly. It's the right thing to do until they can increase the talent around him in these next 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 This season took a lot out of me Then out of nowhere my 11 year old son who didn't know what a 1st down was asks for Madden 17 for Christmas and today adjusted to my HB slipscreen the 3rd time I ran it just by recognizing the formation So we will be going to a game this year, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Larz said: This season took a lot out of me Then out of nowhere my 11 year old son who didn't know what a 1st down was asks for Madden 17 for Christmas and today adjusted to my HB slipscreen the 3rd time I ran it just by recognizing the formation So we will be going to a game this year, lol Welcome back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 On 2/6/2017 at 9:32 PM, Maxman said: I will get flamed for this but: 1. Keeping Bowles was the right thing to do. He didn't have a good year but he is a good coach that will get better. 2. The new assistant coaching staff hires are impressive. 3. The success of next season depends a lot on what veterans they let go. B Marsh vs Sheldon? What to do with Revis? Does Mangold get another year? Those questions will form the locker room and if Bowles wants to be back in 2018, he has to get control of that locker room. You are a smart guy, but I cannot see how you say Bowles is a smart coach. Based on what? He even showed signs of incompetence when he went 10-6, and only got worse last season. So if it is just a hunch-- fine. It may even turn out to be true. But the evidence is not there now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 8 hours ago, Maxman said: Welcome back. it gets worse, now you have to deal with me at a JN tailgate, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 You are a smart guy, but I cannot see how you say Bowles is a smart coach. Based on what? He even showed signs of incompetence when he went 10-6, and only got worse last season. So if it is just a hunch-- fine. It may even turn out to be true. But the evidence is not there now. I guess you think Quinn is not very smart either as is evidenced by his SB guffaws ... fact of the matter is that both guys are learning and both will be good coaches ... and are probably pretty damn smart when it comes to football. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 11 hours ago, jack48 said: You are a smart guy, but I cannot see how you say Bowles is a smart coach. Based on what? He even showed signs of incompetence when he went 10-6, and only got worse last season. So if it is just a hunch-- fine. It may even turn out to be true. But the evidence is not there now. In fairness, I really am not smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Bowles has to tighten up the locker room but I agree with keeping him. I don't know if he is a good HC but he deserves at least another year. Not sure about Marshall and his breach with teammates. I'd keep Mangold. Cut Revis. Keep David Harris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 10 hours ago, Larz said: it gets worse, now you have to deal with me at a JN tailgate, lol Oh great. Time to sell the RV lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocajetfan Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, Maxman said: Oh great. Time to sell the RV lol. Just lock the door to the toilet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 12 minutes ago, Bocajetfan said: Just lock the door to the toilet Always, that was one of the first projects. Putting a lock on the bathroom door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 22 minutes ago, Maxman said: Oh great. Time to sell the RV lol. So the whole family wants to go now, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 15 hours ago, Maxman said: In fairness, I really am not smart. Don't be modest. It is just a case of whether you like him and whether i don't. Projections are porjections. I actually see another Rex, minus the personality. Same stubborn defensive-dumb I don't care about offense approach. And an equally terrible game manager. Could he progress? Sure. And Hack could be the next Brady, by the same line of "reasoning." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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