TuscanyTile2 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Was watching some Superbowl highlights and noticed that games used to start early (though keep in mind the time zones). Looks like that was the case through Superbowl 11 (1977). Starting in 1978 it was moved to 6:17PM EST. Pretty sure it has stayed at that start time since. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_X (Steelers 21 Cowboys 17) Date: January 18, 1976 Game time: 2:14 p.m. EST https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XI (Raiders 32 Vikings 14) Date: January 9, 1977 Game time: 12:47 p.m. PST https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XII (Cowboys 27 Broncos 10) Date: January 15, 1978 Game time: 5:17 p.m. CST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 They should really do it on a Saturday Teams are coming off a 2 week break, so it's not like it's a short week. Make it easier for people to travel, makes it easier to have a SB party or whatever else as you don't have work/ kids don't have school the next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, chirorob said: They should really do it on a Saturday Teams are coming off a 2 week break, so it's not like it's a short week. Make it easier for people to travel, makes it easier to have a SB party or whatever else as you don't have work/ kids don't have school the next day. FULLY agree. Either that or have the next day be a national holiday - lol. Or maybe they can move up President's Day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 "Screw all of you, we have to make the advertisers happy" Love, the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 1 hour ago, chirorob said: They should really do it on a Saturday Teams are coming off a 2 week break, so it's not like it's a short week. Make it easier for people to travel, makes it easier to have a SB party or whatever else as you don't have work/ kids don't have school the next day. TV ratings will not be as good on a Saturday evening/night. That is all they care about. The NFL doesn't give two sh*ts about the convenience of the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 53 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: TV ratings will not be as good on a Saturday evening/night. That is all they care about. The NFL doesn't give two sh*ts about the convenience of the fans. Bingo. Precisely the reason the league goes to those damnable Saturday games once the college games are over. And why they start Saturday playoff games at 4 instead of at 1 as in the past. It's all about the ratings, the fans be damned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 I wonder why they think Saturday Superbowls will draw lesser ratings. Doesn't make sense. I know a lot of people that didn't watch second half this year and years past. They should at least experiment it for the next 2 Superbowls to see if there is really rating drop. For a regular season game, I can understand the low ratings on Saturday nights but this is freaking Superbowl. I am ready to bet on the fact that Saturday Superbowls will draw higher ratings than Sunday Superbowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Fibonacci said: I wonder why they think Saturday Superbowls will draw lesser ratings. Doesn't make sense. I know a lot of people that didn't watch second half this year and years past. They should at least experiment it for the next 2 Superbowls to see if there is really rating drop. For a regular season game, I can understand the low ratings on Saturday nights but this is freaking Superbowl. I am ready to bet on the fact that Saturday Superbowls will draw higher ratings than Sunday Superbowls. They claim that less people watch TV on Fridays and Saturdays than any other nights. But you would think the Super Bowl would change that equation. Nielsen numbers did not or may still not account for people watching in bars, clubs and restaurants, but someone with a decent calculator and some data could tell them otherwise. Bigger question is why the NCAA championship is an afterthought on a Monday night starting at 915 Eastern; makes no sense at all. Should be some way to accommodate that game and NFL playoffs. That really should be on a Friday or Saturday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 4 hours ago, Fibonacci said: I wonder why they think Saturday Superbowls will draw lesser ratings. Doesn't make sense. I know a lot of people that didn't watch second half this year and years past. They should at least experiment it for the next 2 Superbowls to see if there is really rating drop. For a regular season game, I can understand the low ratings on Saturday nights but this is freaking Superbowl. I am ready to bet on the fact that Saturday Superbowls will draw higher ratings than Sunday Superbowls. because it would encourage huge house parties and big bar scenes. they want everyone at home watching it on their own TV so the nielsen numbers show more "households" were viewing, which is what the ad rates are based on, and to do that you need to start in late sunday night its like why video games are becoming more and more no spit-screen multiplayer, they want each kid at home playing his own copy online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 7 hours ago, chirorob said: They should really do it on a Saturday Teams are coming off a 2 week break, so it's not like it's a short week. Make it easier for people to travel, makes it easier to have a SB party or whatever else as you don't have work/ kids don't have school the next day. 4 hours ago, Fibonacci said: I wonder why they think Saturday Superbowls will draw lesser ratings. Doesn't make sense. I know a lot of people that didn't watch second half this year and years past. They should at least experiment it for the next 2 Superbowls to see if there is really rating drop. For a regular season game, I can understand the low ratings on Saturday nights but this is freaking Superbowl. I am ready to bet on the fact that Saturday Superbowls will draw higher ratings than Sunday Superbowls. Main reason this wouldn't happen is it would decrease revenue substantially for the host city. Part of the benefit of hosting a SB is the host city gets, on average, over 3 days per person visiting, as they come in on Friday and leave Monday morning. The league also throws a lot of events on that Saturday and one of the reasons they can make that work is people have the day off. In other words, the league isn't really interested in making things easier for people throwing parties in their homes, those people are going to watch regardless of when it is. The Super Bowl is an ATM for both the league and the host city and so long as the tourism model works with respect to it, it's not changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 35 minutes ago, Bugg said: Bigger question is why the NCAA championship is an afterthought on a Monday night starting at 915 Eastern; makes no sense at all. Should be some way to accommodate that game and NFL playoffs. That really should be on a Friday or Saturday night. With respect to Saturday, that's never happening. NCAA is never going to put its premier game of the year anywhere near a NFL game, so a weekday is the only option. Within that frame, having the game on a Monday allows for students to be back on Tuesday for classes. Some schools have actually moved back their start dates for Spring to accommodate the game in the past, but to my knowledge that's not the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 18 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: FULLY agree. Either that or have the next day be a national holiday - lol. Or maybe they can move up President's Day? I believe this is part of the plan when they talk about extending the regular season to 18 games. It makes a lot of sense in that respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 1 hour ago, slats said: I believe this is part of the plan when they talk about extending the regular season to 18 games. It makes a lot of sense in that respect. I would be 100% for this. Cut the pre-season down 2 games. Add 2 to the regular season and have the Superbowl on a night where people can enjoy it without worrying about work in the morning. A win on all counts! One thing I'd like to see though is more late season Saturday afternoon games. I think they brought them back recently but I'd love to see them for the extra 2 games they're talking about adding. Get rid of Thursday and add Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 13 hours ago, Larz said: because it would encourage huge house parties and big bar scenes. they want everyone at home watching it on their own TV so the nielsen numbers show more "households" were viewing, which is what the ad rates are based on, and to do that you need to start in late sunday night its like why video games are becoming more and more no spit-screen multiplayer, they want each kid at home playing his own copy online Very insightful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 20 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: FULLY agree. Either that or have the next day be a national holiday - lol. Or maybe they can move up President's Day? Good idea. There used to be a "Washington's Birthday" holiday. Then I think there was a move to also have a "Lincoln's Birthday" holiday. But I think the "President's Day" holiday was a compromise to prevent the proliferation of federal holidays, and I think it was originally intended to celebrate all Presidents' birthdays. So, since the date is no longer coupled to either Washington's or Lincoln's actual birthdays, what difference does it make what specific date is used for it? Day after Super Bowl is as good as any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 The NFL is all about money there is no doubt in my mind they are planning something to increase revenue they wont allow tradition to stand in the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 I think Kraft and Brady should decide since they play in the SUPERBOWL each year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 On 2/18/2017 at 0:49 PM, JetsFanatic said: TV ratings will not be as good on a Saturday evening/night. That is all they care about. The NFL doesn't give two sh*ts about the convenience of the fans. I figure, it's the Super Bowl. People are going to watch. It's the 2nd biggest food consumption day of the year after Thanksgiving. It's not just a game, it's an event. You could argue, THE sporting event of the year in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 On 2/18/2017 at 6:26 PM, RutgersJetFan said: Main reason this wouldn't happen is it would decrease revenue substantially for the host city. Part of the benefit of hosting a SB is the host city gets, on average, over 3 days per person visiting, as they come in on Friday and leave Monday morning. The league also throws a lot of events on that Saturday and one of the reasons they can make that work is people have the day off. In other words, the league isn't really interested in making things easier for people throwing parties in their homes, those people are going to watch regardless of when it is. The Super Bowl is an ATM for both the league and the host city and so long as the tourism model works with respect to it, it's not changing. That is a good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 20, 2017 Author Share Posted February 20, 2017 39 minutes ago, chirorob said: I figure, it's the Super Bowl. People are going to watch. It's the 2nd biggest food consumption day of the year after Thanksgiving. It's not just a game, it's an event. You could argue, THE sporting event of the year in the US. Is it even an argument? What other US sporting event is anywhere close to being as big as the Superbowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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