#27TheDominator Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, thadude said: I really don't know who is worse Geno or Hoyer Then you have no ******* idea what you are talking about. Geno: 12-18 57.9% 6.9 ypa 28/36 Hoyer: 16-15 59.5% 7.2 ypa 44/26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 minute ago, thadude said: Yeah Mac and Bowles was so impressed with Hack in practice they had him dress in pajamas on the sidelines while Geno/Fitz/Petty stunk up the joint and/or got hurt that was decided before the season even began and they stuck to it. We'll know much better this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Klecko73isGod said: YES!!!! MAKE IT HAPPEN TANNY! I want this soooooo bad. 2017 will be amazing. OMG. I just cant wait. Someone needs to have a 24/7 cam on BMarsh because when this becomes official, his reaction is going to be priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, section314 said: You would have an easier time explaining advanced calculus to these guys than this. Don't bother. Oh right the "redshirt" plan So when are we allowed to say Hack sucks? The year 2075? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Dcat said: He wasn't ready yet. Just like Hack. Yet Wentz and Prescott were next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Dcat said: that was decided before the season even began and they stuck to it. We'll know much better this summer. Tasty kool-aid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, section314 said: No, because he can't pass. ^ WINNER! /endthread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Then you have no ******* idea what you are talking about. Geno: 12-18 57.9% 6.9 ypa 28/36 Hoyer: 16-15 59.5% 7.2 ypa 44/26 Post hoyers stat line from his playoff game two years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 minute ago, thadude said: Tasty kool-aid but true. (Whether we fans like it or not) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: Post hoyers stat line from his playoff game two years ago. He wont We can't discuss abortions this is not a political site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Just now, Beerfish said: Post hoyers stat line from his playoff game two years ago. Why? How would I compare Geno's playoff performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, thadude said: Yet Wentz and Prescott were next Yup. Precott had one of the best OL protection in the NFL and an incredible run game, not to mention he would never had seen the field but for Romo's injury. Wentz was a high first round pick. How about Goff? They played him and he didn't look too good (just like Lynch). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Also just a heads up, I'm all for doing sh*t that's funny, but getting Cutler assures that the Jets will be just good enough to not get a top 2 pick and just bad enough to get Bowles fired whilst putting Macaggnan on a hot seat to such a degree that he sells the future of the team to go 8-8 in 2018. Stone cold lock. That is not the Jets way. The Jets way is to sign him for 1/$7M. Start off slow and then finish 10-6 missing the playoffs on tiebreakers. Sign him for 4/$80M with $40M guaranteed and then have him go 4-12 while 5 times go 3-13 or worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, thadude said: Oh right the "redshirt" plan So when are we allowed to say Hack sucks? The year 2075? You can say it anytime you want, but to be reasonable, you should probably give it 2-3 years from now, until he's started for about 50 games. My guess is you'll be saying lots of things about him, but "sucks" won't be one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, Mike135 said: Finally it all makes sense. Couldn't, for the life of me, figure why they'd pay Fitz 12mil last year. And this explains it. They knew they might bring Cutler here for 2017. Now normally that'd be f-in retarded, but we're not normal. We're coming from 2016 when we paid Ryan Fitzpatrick 12 million dollars. As long as we don't pay Cutler over $35 million in 2017... it's an upgrade from 2016 and worth it. Macc is a genius. Maccagnan is like an IRA for sheety QBS on the way out of the NFL. Jeff Garcia, Jeff George and Donovan McNabb are gonna unretire and sign with the Jets to work with this financial powerhouse. FOUND F___IN' MONEY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 What are the odds that in the next 24 hours, Brandon Marshall makes a comment about how great Cutler could be in NY and that they have a great relationship and stuff reported in Chicago was b.s., him and Cutler face time each other every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 minute ago, #27TheDominator said: That is not the Jets way. The Jets way is to sign him for 1/$7M. Start off slow and then finish 10-6 missing the playoffs on tiebreakers. Sign him for 4/$80M with $40M guaranteed and then have him go 4-12 while 5 times go 3-13 or worse. So what's the "right" way? Go 2-14 with Hoyer/Hack/Petty and watch Darnold go to the 49ers who went 1-15? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 minute ago, section314 said: You can say it anytime you want, but to be reasonable, you should probably give it 2-3 years from now, until he's started for about 50 games. My guess is you'll be saying lots of things about him, but "sucks" won't be one of them. So Hack is going to learn to throw, read NFL defenses and learn footwork in the next 2-3 years Awesome bra! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 This is why they should have never fired Rex. Could you imagine throwing Rex in the mix with Cutler and Marshall? Like mother ******* kerosene on a fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, Dcat said: Yup. Precott had one of the best OL protection in the NFL and an incredible run game, not to mention he would never had seen the field but for Romo's injury. Wentz was a high first round pick. How about Goff? They played him and he didn't look too good (just like Lynch). The broncos have seen enough of lynch in practice they know it's time to move on But that's what smart organizations that win Super Bowls do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, thadude said: The broncos have seen enough of lynch in practice they know it's time to move on But that's what smart organizations that win Super Bowls do point #1 above: You don't know that. Just your speculation. point #2 above: Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Nostradamus said: Forte would be gone if we take a RB in 1st round Nope. He's here for 2017. There are no savings if you cut him. Zero. 52 minutes ago, thadude said: Mac isn't flushing his career in the toilet for Hoyer/Hack/Petty And I'm not even a Cutler guy He's too busy flushing his career on bad offensive lineman extensions and a second go round at the secondary. 47 minutes ago, Beerfish said: If you are going to settle for Hoyer you may as well Geno smith it up. Shut your mouth! 44 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: It is ******* insane how all this organization does is hire one blathering schlemiel after another to run things. Jay Cutler, you gotta be kidding me. It is insane but also completely expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlagmanL11 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 good move if it can be done on the cheap. Def puts the Jets back in contention with those WR's and if Cutler gets hurt, Hackenberg or Petty can then step in and go from there. Get a TE in Free Agency (Bennett) and Draft Fournette in Rd 1 and off lineman in 2nd or 3rd and roll from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 51 minutes ago, thadude said: I'd rather drink toxic waste than watch either of them next season play for the jets We'd all like to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, FlagmanL11 said: good move if it can be done on the cheap. Def puts the Jets back in contention with those WR's and if Cutler gets hurt, Hackenberg or Petty can then step in and go from there. Get a TE in Free Agency (Bennett) and Draft Fournette in Rd 1 and off lineman in 2nd or 3rd and roll from there. A sucky player still sucks regardless of what they make. Ryan Fitzpatrick didn't suck because he made $12 million last year; he sucked because he threw 17 interception in 11 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Jets will win 6 games with Cutler. Everyone will get fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Just checking in... - how many guys have sworn off the Jets completely for this? - how many have stroked out? - how many have made the same benign MACCCCCCCC jokes they always make? - how many have PMed me threats of face punches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 The Jets are at least a .500 team with average quarterback play. Bringing in Cutler would be a stop-gap fix for the next few years, which I don't 100% support... but I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Just checking in... - how many guys have sworn off the Jets completely for this? - how many have stroked out? - how many have made the same benign MACCCCCCCC jokes they always make? - how many have PMed me threats of face punches? You pretty much summarized the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Is Cutler officially a free agent?Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Cutler would be (along with Romo) a penultimate "short term minor gain for long term major loss" move at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, DetroitRed said: Is Cutler officially a free agent? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 God No. Have we not learned anything? High interception guy who takes risks, with injury history and a well known locker room malcontent? What could go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said: Why? How would I compare Geno's playoff performance? Both are garbage, geno played on the garage jets hoyer actually played on some teams with talent that did not mail it in. I can't believe I am defending geno freaking smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Both are garbage, geno played on the garage jets hoyer actually played on some teams with talent that did not mail it in. I can't believe I am defending geno freaking smith. Like the Browns? He was 10-6 with the Browns in 2013 and 2014. The Browns were 1-15 in games he didn't start those two seasons. I get it. He is a sh*t option. So are Cutler and probably Glennon and Taylor. The difference is this guy will be cheap and there won't be a ton of expectations. Sign Glennon or Taylor and you are married to them for 2-3 years minimum. That is my issue. Kick the tires on all of them, but don't pull the long term trigger until you are sure. FWIW, I do not like Geno at all, but I would have started him before paying Fitzpatrick north of $8M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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