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1 minute ago, ScarletKnight89 said:

This comes as no surprise. He's one of the most realistic options. The guy has talent, and is capable of having a big season.

He's far from perfect. But he's a very realistic option for where Maac and Bowles are right now.

ONLY if he comes at a reasonable price on a short term deal. Which is exactly why this will not happen. Cutler will want as lucrative a deal as possible and he will want something long term. This may be his last chance to cash out. Sure, he has plenty of money already. But he's not a point in his career where all he cares about is winning a SB (like Romo for example). 

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SeeCutler:

Attitude issues. 

Not a team player or leader.

33 year old retreads. 

Currently on IR.

Stats not that outstanding as of late, also gets sacked alot.

If the Jets are building how about a young franchise QB. The Jets may already have the answer and none of us has seen enough of the young QB'S to know the answer to that question.

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20 hours ago, rangerous said:

i don't exactly see where he's an interception machine.  the other parts may be true but there's no doubt he is a decent qb when healthy.

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Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV
2006 23 DEN qb 6 5 5 2-3-0 81 137 59.1 1001 9 6.6 5 3.6 71 7.3 7.0 12.4 200.2 88.5 35.96 13 85 6.11 5.81 8.7     3
2007 24 DEN QB 6 16 16 7-9-0 297 467 63.6 3497 20 4.3 14 3.0 68 7.5 7.0 11.8 218.6 88.1 55.1 27 153 6.77 6.30 5.5 2 3 12
2008* 25 DEN QB 6 16 16 8-8-0 384 616 62.3 4526 25 4.1 18 2.9 93 7.3 6.8 11.8 282.9 86.0 67.09 11 69 7.11 6.61 1.8 3 4 15
2009 26 CHI QB 6 16 16 7-9-0 336 555 60.5 3666 27 4.9 26 4.7 71 6.6 5.5 10.9 229.1 76.8 41.34 35 204 5.87 4.80 5.9 2 4 10
2010 27 CHI QB 6 15 15 10-5-0 261 432 60.4 3274 23 5.3 16 3.7 89 7.6 7.0 12.5 218.3 86.3 43.91 52 352 6.04 5.50 10.7 4 4 12
2011 28 CHI QB 6 10 10 7-3-0 182 314 58.0 2319 13 4.1 7 2.2 56 7.4 7.2 12.7 231.9 85.7 57.75 23 159 6.41 6.25 6.8 1 1 7
2012 29 CHI QB 6 15 15 10-5-0 255 434 58.8 3033 19 4.4 14 3.2 60 7.0 6.4 11.9 202.2 81.3 48.5 38 250 5.90 5.37 8.1 1 1 11
2013 30 CHI QB 6 11 11 5-6-0 224 355 63.1 2621 19 5.4 12 3.4 67 7.4 6.9 11.7 238.3 89.2 67.07 19 132 6.66 6.23 5.1 3 3 9
2014 31 CHI QB 6 15 15 5-10-0 370 561 66.0 3812 28 5.0 18 3.2 74 6.8 6.3 10.3 254.1 88.6 52.77 38 223 5.99 5.57 6.3 1 1 11
2015 32 CHI QB 6 15 15 6-9-0 311 483 64.4 3659 21 4.3 11 2.3 87 7.6 7.4 11.8 243.9 92.3 60.67 29 150 6.85 6.71 5.7 4 4 12
2016 33 CHI qb 6 5 5 1-4-0 81 137 59.1 1059 4 2.9 5 3.6 54 7.7 6.7 13.1 211.8 78.1 33.1 17 104 6.20 5.26 11.0     2
Career       139 139 68-71-0 2782 4491 61.9 32467 208 4.6 146 3.3 93 7.2 6.7 11.7 233.6 85.7   302 1881 6.38 5.88 6.3 21 25 104
8 yrs CHI     102 102 51-51-0 2020 3271 61.8 23443 154 4.7 109 3.3 89 7.2 6.6 11.6 229.8 85.2   251 1574 6.21 5.69 7.1 16 18 74
3 yrs DEN     37 37 17-20-0 762 1220 62.5 9024 54 4.4 37 3.0 93 7.4 6.9 11.8 243.9 87.1   51 307 6.86 6.40 4.0 5 7 30

His career interception rate is 3.3, taking into account his lowest attempts in a season as the bench mark for attempts, that rate would have made him the 31st QB this year in terms of interception rate.   

If we go up to a more robust 300 attempts- he would rank 27th (this is to weed out injury replacement guys that may have played a game or two).  

https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/quarterback-interception-rates/2016/customize/

He's in the bottom tier of interception rates throughout his career.  He has talent, but he's a risk taker, that is going to be 34 years old and declining.  His main attribute is the arm strength, but as he gets older he has to adjust, and I'm not willing to bank on that.  If he was younger, I'd absolutely take a shot, but this is the same argument as Fitz last year.  Cutler doesn't make us a contender, it just takes us from horrible to respectable.  In the long term, we stunt the growth of our young QBs so we can't find out if they are good enough or not to move forward with, and the move to respectability takes us out of prime draft positions to actually pick a franchise guy.  It's a lose-lose for us, by marginally improving our chances to win.  

I just don't want a stop gap guy, and I'm willing to live with a 2-14 team, if it means we can rebuild properly and actually get a good young QB instead of picking up the trash from other teams hoping to solve a riddle.  

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17 hours ago, Charlie Brown said:

Some of the same folks who were saying Fitz had low risk and couldn't hurt the team are some of the same folks now advocating this silly move.

Petty vs Hack before Cutler!!!

 

Exactly, it's the same argument over again (while Cutler is more physically talented) because it's an old veteran on the downside that can take us from horrible to respectable, but doesn't really take us anywhere.  

How many people can name 6-7 win teams from the NFC without looking it up?  You either suck and get the most talented players, or you go for it all and build with a franchise QB.  Having an old veteran come in, just delays the process to rebuilding the position, and devalues the most effective method of rebuilding, which is draft value.

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3 hours ago, win4ever said:

His career interception rate is 3.3, taking into account his lowest attempts in a season as the bench mark for attempts, that rate would have made him the 31st QB this year in terms of interception rate.   

If we go up to a more robust 300 attempts- he would rank 27th (this is to weed out injury replacement guys that may have played a game or two).  

https://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/quarterback-interception-rates/2016/customize/

He's in the bottom tier of interception rates throughout his career.  He has talent, but he's a risk taker, that is going to be 34 years old and declining.  His main attribute is the arm strength, but as he gets older he has to adjust, and I'm not willing to bank on that.  If he was younger, I'd absolutely take a shot, but this is the same argument as Fitz last year.  Cutler doesn't make us a contender, it just takes us from horrible to respectable.  In the long term, we stunt the growth of our young QBs so we can't find out if they are good enough or not to move forward with, and the move to respectability takes us out of prime draft positions to actually pick a franchise guy.  It's a lose-lose for us, by marginally improving our chances to win.  

I just don't want a stop gap guy, and I'm willing to live with a 2-14 team, if it means we can rebuild properly and actually get a good young QB instead of picking up the trash from other teams hoping to solve a riddle.  

i looked up a number of qb's such as favre, rivers, rodgers, roethlisberger, prescott, wilson, eli manning, peyton manning, mariota, sanchez and smith. some of these guys are really stingy.  basically, cutler's interception rate is not the greatest but what really set the really good from the average is the td/int ration.  even with cutler's middling int rate he's light years ahead of the past few qb's the jets have had.  

i don't think anyone is advocating using him as the qb for the next 5 seasons but he can be a more effective 1 or 2 season stop gap than most of the other veterans available. although when i look at this further, by this criteria hoyer might be the better choice. if the intent is to get a guy for a season or two the last thing the jets need is another ego driven guy.

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Good old Charley.Great.

Jay Cutler and the Jets make sense -- if he can handle the press

Cutler's talent indicates he should start, given the number of teams in need of a quarterback and a rookie class of QBs who are not ready to start. A question he has to answer is what he will play for. As to who is the best fit, it might all come down to his attitude toward the team he's thinking about. The Jets are an obvious possibility, because he's played for QB coach Jeremy Bates before. The chemistry with the team is a factor -- along with his ability to handle the New York tabloids.

 

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10 hours ago, FTL Jet Fan said:

Good old Charley.Great.

Jay Cutler and the Jets make sense -- if he can handle the press

Cutler's talent indicates he should start, given the number of teams in need of a quarterback and a rookie class of QBs who are not ready to start. A question he has to answer is what he will play for. As to who is the best fit, it might all come down to his attitude toward the team he's thinking about. The Jets are an obvious possibility, because he's played for QB coach Jeremy Bates before. The chemistry with the team is a factor -- along with his ability to handle the New York tabloids.

 

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1 minute ago, bealeb319 said:

Cutler plus young inexperienced offensive line sounds like a good way for Mac and Bowles to find themselves unemployed. I would be disappointed if we are cutting players like mangold to make room for cutler

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Maybe the thought process is a younger improved OL to protect the older QB we all know this is the Jets and they will probably do something like this.

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On 2/23/2017 at 5:31 PM, rangerous said:

i looked up a number of qb's such as favre, rivers, rodgers, roethlisberger, prescott, wilson, eli manning, peyton manning, mariota, sanchez and smith. some of these guys are really stingy.  basically, cutler's interception rate is not the greatest but what really set the really good from the average is the td/int ration.  even with cutler's middling int rate he's light years ahead of the past few qb's the jets have had.  

i don't think anyone is advocating using him as the qb for the next 5 seasons but he can be a more effective 1 or 2 season stop gap than most of the other veterans available. although when i look at this further, by this criteria hoyer might be the better choice. if the intent is to get a guy for a season or two the last thing the jets need is another ego driven guy.

He is better than the ones we have thrown out there recently, but it's sort of saying farting is better than pooping in public.  Theoretically, yes, but it doesn't lead to a fun experience either way.  

I think that's part of my argument against him, in that this team needs a full rebuild rather than a stop gap.  The defense is bad, and the QB is bad.  They need a young QB to grow with Enunwa/Anderson/Peake/Marshall/Smith and I guess ASJ or a new TE.  The team isn't really the 2008 Jets were they were really just a good QB away from contending because they had a great defense set up, very good oline and RB situation brewing, and could get receivers if needed.  We also invested high picks on Petty/Hack and neither have been given a fair shot yet.  I thought Petty looked better than expected, given the state of the offensive line last year.  

Best case scenario with Cutler to me is a 8-8, 9-7 season.  I just don't think it's worth wasting money and time when we won't really go anywhere.  I'd rather see Petty/Hack play and see if we finally find a future QB that we can rely on for years.  

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