derp Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Honestly wish the Jets did what the Browns did if the part about cutting him with no cap ramifications after this season is true. Get some picks and a vet to lead the tank charge. Osweiler is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, smaxor5 said: Amazing use of cap space for the browns. They just bought a 2nd Round pick in a deep draft with cap space they weren't going to be able to use. Well done. ...and they said Sonny Weaver wasn't as good as his father. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: The Browns have a ton of cap space that they weren't going to use anyway. They get a free 2nd round pick which is INSANELY valuable. This is one of the Browns best move in years. hmmm...good point, now I am depressed again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 minute ago, sourceworx said: How does the Texans GM survive this? First he gives an unproven QB that kind of money, then has to piss away a second round pick to get rid of him a year later. Texans made the playoffs two years in a row and will again next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, jmat321 said: Just read the browns may move osweiler. They have too much space and can't spend it all. They get houstons picks, have some of osweiler's contract on their books for the season and are looking to to trade him for more picks??? Yep that seems like the plan! Kind of like the report says, it's like a multi-team basketball trade at this point... I mean even if they kick him to someone for like a 4th round pick, they come out looking pretty great in this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 As a Sixers fan I love it ! Such a Hinkie move !! Browns are trusting the process ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 The Browns took that contract and gave up a high draft pick? WOW. Does O'Brien want Hackenberg back now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecca Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, Matt39 said: This is our opportunity to dangle Hackenberg to the Texans is it not I said this about 6 months ago, and 90% of this board had pitchforks on me because Hack was the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 would you trade a 5th round pick to the browns for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 This is likely the work of Paul DePodesta who went to the Browns from the Mets as a "moneyball" guru... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Maxman said: The Browns took that contract and gave up a high draft pick? WOW. Does O'Brien want Hackenberg back now? No, the Browns took the contract and GOT a high draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, gEYno said: This is the full post from Schefter. NFL stunner: Texans trade QB Brock Osweiler AND a 2018 second-round pick to Cleveland . . . . If so, it would turn into a basketball-like trade in which NBA teams routinely trade contracts to get them off their books; only it rarely, if ever, happens in the NFL. It’s hard to remember in the salary-cap era another team when a team traded a contract to get it off its books. But Houston was so anxious to rid itself of Osweiler and move on to its next quarterbacking chapter that it is giving Cleveland extra picks to take him and his contract. The Browns headed into this free-agent signing period with over $100 million worth of salary-cap space and would struggle to spend it all. Now they can devote some of it to Osweiler’s contract and acquiring extra draft picks from Houston. But this is one of the most, if not the most, creative trade in NFL history. Terry Bradway did the same thing when he added Ryan Young (a 7th round Starting RT for the Jets) to the Expansion draft list of exposed players to specifically rid the Jets of the contracts for our starting DBs Aaron Glenn & Marcus Coleman. Houston agreed to take both of our starting CBs and their salaries off our books if we also added Young who was the real prize for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, Kevin L said: Good to know that the Jets aren't the dumbest franchise in the league. Cleveland now has a QB thats better than any QB on our roster. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, gEYno said: No, the Browns took the contract and GOT a high draft pick. Oh okay, that is much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, peekskill68 said: This is likely the work of Paul DePodesta who went to the Browns from the Mets as a "moneyball" guru... A football team run by baseball guys just made a great NBA trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warfish Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 16 minutes ago, gEYno said: It's a great move by the Browns. They get an extra 2nd round pick and with their 100M in cap space, can hold this contract no problem. Will be even better if they can flip him for a 3rd or so. This was my take as well. They're getting picks to have a potentially better #1 QB. Clearly they must think Oswellier (the 2016 Glennon) still has upside and potential. EDIT: Or as reported above, will cut him. Lol. And to get a QB and a 2nd Round Pick, all it costs them in salary, something they have a ton of room for. It's a risky move on the will he/won't he work out front, as almost all QB moves are, but really it's not a bad move in and of itself for the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, SAR I said: ...and they said Sonny Weaver wasn't as good as his father. SAR I Am I the only one waiting for the obvious sequel to this movie - "Free Agency Day" where Sonny Weaver's replacement, played by Matthew McConaughey, has to deal with the fall out of their two first round picks busting out and needs to clear up cap space to overpay for Mike Glennon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 So Osweiller will be competing with Kessler and RG III for the job or are they going to hand him the job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin L Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Cleveland now has a QB thats better than any QB on our roster. Just saying. That may be true, but it's not saying much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 "So, Brock, how does it feel knowing that your old team gave up a high draft pick to get RID of you?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, August said: So Osweiller will be competing with Kessler and RG III for the job or are they going to hand him the job? It looks like he won't take a snap for the Browns, might not be on the roster. They did this to eat up cap space they didn't want to spend and got a 2nd round draft pick as a bonus. It was a financial transaction, they don't want the player. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 This is actually really smart by the Browns. They basically paid 16million for a 2018 2nd rd pick. They have 11 picks in each draft (2017 and 2018) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Just now, August said: So Osweiller will be competing with Kessler and RG III for the job or are they going to hand him the job? RG3 is being cut I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Can you imagine that negotiation: hou - Yo I have a proposition for you. You guys need a QB we're prepared to give you the Brock for nothing. *crosses fingers* cle - Wait, what? You want to give us Brock and don't want anything back? hou - nada cle - well we don't want that piece of sh-t here. hou - whoa! come on man..... ok, ok! we'll give you a 5th rounder if you take him. cle - uh yeah.. no. he sucks. we have the NFL Network here ya know. hou - fu-k OK.. a 4th rounder and we'll fly him out, and uber him to your stadium. cle - ... no... I gotta go man... hou - COME ON WTF!!! sorry sorry... ok. We'll give you a 2nd rounder, fly him there, and uber him to your stadium. cle - I don't know Rick... hou - PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!! *starts crying* cle - alright alright... calm the F down... fine. call it in. you owe me one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 15 minutes ago, jetspenguin said: if it was a mistake then how is it great for Cleveland? He still sucks THEY GOT A FREE SECOND ROUND PICK! The cap hit for Osweiller is meaningless to them because they have a ton of cap space they won't be able to use this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 minute ago, August said: So Osweiller will be competing with Kessler and RG III for the job or are they going to hand him the job? He's getting cut. Browns decided that acquiring an Extra 2nd round pick in 2018 is worth their excessive Cap space to absorb and simply dumping the guy and his awful contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Just now, JETSfaninNE said: RG3 is being cut I believe. I heard RGIII is transitioning to a career in roller derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 16 minutes ago, SAR I said: I know nothing of the draft, I don't watch college football, so I trust your judgement over mine. But if I look at the 5 teams picking ahead of us, don't they now all have legit starting QB's and therefore won't the Jets be sitting with the pick of the litter at #6? SAR I Cleveland is still looking for its franchise QB. Osweiler is just a bridge to that. And Cleveland has cap space and a need to meet the spending minimum. In fact, they could possibly re-gift him to some other team before the draft. I think Cleveland is still in the QB market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 18 minutes ago, DMan77 said: I think this indicates the Texans will go after Romo... I think Romo to Houston will soon be a done deal via trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, JETSfaninNE said: This is actually really smart by the Browns. They basically paid 16million for a 2018 2nd rd pick. They have 11 picks in each draft (2017 and 2018) The Brown are in a far better position for the future than the Jets and IMO it and isn't even close. So Jets fans can laugh all they want to but the last laugh is unfortunately on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 They should just keep him so they are sure to get Darnold next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 I don't get why they'd cut him actually. Take him, give him a tryout in 2017. If he sucks, then cut him. You're paying for him either way, right? And has anyone fallen faster than Osweiller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Cleveland bought a 2nd round pick. This trade isn't for them to acquire a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, munchmemory said: I heard RGIII is transitioning to a career in roller derby. RGIII vs. Geno Smith in UFC 215. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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