Lupz27 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Anyone else think the Jets will take a QB somewhere in this draft, and Petty is the odd man out? He is not ready to throw now, and won't be ready during all of offseason workouts apparently. IMO Petty did not look like the answer at QB last year, and most reports from the in the know insiders is the Jets brass also does not see Petty as the answer at starting QB, if true you kinda have to get another guy this draft somewhere, Petty will be way behind any QB on the roster with executing the new offense considering he can't throw until training camp at the earliest. To me the writing is on the wall for Petty to be the odd man out should the Jets draft a QB in this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I keep reading this, but short of amputation I have seen no evidence he should be behind Hackenberg at this point. It will be nice if Hackenberg beats him out, but I will wait for some proof. There is every possibility that Hackenberg is Tahj Boyd 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Boyd was like a 5th rounder. Not sure why so much was expexted from him his name seems to pop up often. That being said i predict a qb in the first 2 rounds. Id cut mccown and let youngsters compete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 What I notice about Petty is his head simply does not move. In contrast, as bad as Hackenberg played, his head is on a swivel. He is at least going through his progressions. Petty is still a one-read QB after two years. He has decent physical tools but is fatally flawed from the neck up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, HighPitch said: Boyd was like a 5th rounder. Not sure why so much was expexted from him his name seems to pop up often. That being said i predict a qb in the first 2 rounds. Id cut mccown and let youngsters compete Everyone but us had Hack a 5th rounder or lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 11 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Anyone else think the Jets will take a QB somewhere in this draft, and Petty is the odd man out? He is not ready to throw now, and won't be ready during all of offseason workouts apparently. IMO Petty did not look like the answer at QB last year, and most reports from the in the know insiders is the Jets brass also does not see Petty as the answer at starting QB, if true you kinda have to get another guy this draft somewhere, Petty will be way behind any QB on the roster with executing the new offense considering he can't throw until training camp at the earliest. To me the writing is on the wall for Petty to be the odd man out should the Jets draft a QB in this draft. Macc said Petty will start throwing in April which is plenty of time to compete. I like that Petty is being written off - he has nothing to lose and no pressure. If they pass on drafting a QB in 1st 2 rounds my prediction is Petty will win the competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 11 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: I keep reading this, but short of amputation I have seen no evidence he should be behind Hackenberg at this point. It will be nice if Hackenberg beats him out, but I will wait for some proof. There is every possibility that Hackenberg is Tahj Boyd 2.0 what if Petty is good and Hack cant beat him out? doesnt mean Hack is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I'd prefer eating the $6m and cutting McCown when he inevitably looks like the worst QB we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Petty needs to be able to play to his strengths. Without Gailey around I think Petty could do well but his ability is still generally unknown, he needs to be able to air the ball out and throw deep. When Gailey let him throw the ball deeper than 5yds good things happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, SickJetFan said: what if Petty is good and Hack cant beat him out? doesnt mean Hack is bad. The odds of this are roughly the same as Chad Pennington winning a third comeback player of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: The odds of this are roughly the same as Chad Pennington winning a third comeback player of the year. no I dont think so - Petty is only 25 and got a raw deal last year if you ask me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Petty could get cut for sure which is a pity because he is better than Hackenburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 26 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Anyone else think the Jets will take a QB somewhere in this draft, and Petty is the odd man out? I think there is every possibility that this happens, yes. The team appears lukewarm on Petty for some time, his opportunity did not result in any meaningful success, and he was shown to be injury prone in his brief time behind center. And he was a 4th round pick, if I recall. Yes, every possibility if we do draft a QB anywhere in this draft, it will be Petty (not McCown) thats cut loose. I'd personally prefer Hack/Petty/Draft Pick, and I see no purpose of any kind in McCown, but that $6M guaranteed money makes such dreaming exceedingly unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I don't know why everyone says that Petty's injury prone...dude got lit up by his own line each time....normal human being would be dead by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, Warfish said: I think there is every possibility that this happens, yes. The team appears lukewarm on Petty for some time, his opportunity did not result in any meaningful success, and he was shown to be injury prone in his brief time behind center. And he was a 4th round pick, if I recall. Yes, every possibility if we do draft a QB anywhere in this draft, it will be Petty (not McCown) thats cut loose. I'd personally prefer Hack/Petty/Draft Pick, and I see no purpose of any kind in McCown, but that $6M guaranteed money makes such dreaming exceedingly unlikely. All 3x Petty got hurt he made a play All 3x he got hurt was because of a bonehead play by teamates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Petty was drafted with the expectation of being a long term back up. Nothing wrong with that. He was also see as a 3-4 year project because of Baylor's system. I hope they keep Bryce and see who is a better back up him or Hackenberg. And hope one of them can be a starter one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, peebag said: I don't know why everyone says that Petty's injury prone...dude got lit up by his own line each time....normal human being would be dead by now. The NFL is a violent sport. You get hurt multiple times in a year, when your playing time was limited and you are going to have the injury prone label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 38 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Anyone else think the Jets will take a QB somewhere in this draft, and Petty is the odd man out? He is not ready to throw now, and won't be ready during all of offseason workouts apparently. IMO Petty did not look like the answer at QB last year, and most reports from the in the know insiders is the Jets brass also does not see Petty as the answer at starting QB, if true you kinda have to get another guy this draft somewhere, Petty will be way behind any QB on the roster with executing the new offense considering he can't throw until training camp at the earliest. To me the writing is on the wall for Petty to be the odd man out should the Jets draft a QB in this draft. I posted the video of Bowles in another thread, but listen to his words. His assessment of Petty seems luke warm. I think the Jets are hoping the depth chart looks like this after the training camp battle 1) Hackenberg 2) McCown 3) Petty. And there is probably one QB that they like in this draft. If he is there at 6, they could make the move. Which, I agree, would make Petty the odd man out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, SickJetFan said: All 3x Petty got hurt he made a play All 3x he got hurt was because of a bonehead play by teamates And? Listen, I like Petty, I wanted to see Petty play, and I would have loved to see Petty succeed. I did not see anything from Petty that gives me an objective belief that he is a legit franchise QB-in-training. More importantly, I don't think the Front Office sees Petty as that either. That leaves him the odd man out in any Hack + McCown + Draft Pick + Petty situation. No one has to like it, but disliking it won't change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Petty's window is this season...he either starts for Jets and keeps the job or he will move on to next team when contract is up Hack's window is this season too but would not be end of the world if he didnt win job as he still has 2018 and 2019 to win it and keep it Neither of these players are long term answer as a back up QB as one or the other will move on at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: And? Listen, I like Petty, I wanted to see Petty play, and I would have loved to see Petty succeed. I did not see anything from Petty that gives me an objective belief that he is a legit franchise QB-in-training. More importantly, I don't think the Front Office sees Petty as that either. That leaves him the odd man out in any Hack + McCown + Draft Pick + Petty situation. No one has to like it, but disliking it won't change it. no And? just a fun fact since you brought up injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 Just now, Warfish said: And? Listen, I like Petty, I wanted to see Petty play, and I would have loved to see Petty succeed. I did not see anything from Petty that gives me an objective belief that he is a legit franchise QB-in-training. More importantly, I don't think the Front Office sees Petty as that either. That leaves him the odd man out in any Hack + McCown + Draft Pick + Petty situation. No one has to like it, but disliking it won't change it. Agree with every single word in this post, said it better then I could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 46 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Agree with every single word in this post, said it better then I could. Me also, and as a matter of record, if the Jets drafted a QB at 6, they should cut Petty the next day . I wanted the Jets to sign McCown, and they did . I want the Jets to draft Trubisky if he's there at 6 and I hope they do . Going into the OTAs the Jets are going to be unveiling a new scheme and despite what they say, every rep is going to be crucial . This team cannot afford to split reps between 4 QBs and should not . McCown is who I wanted to bridge the gap between Hackenberg and My choice Trubisky. None of these 3 will prevent me from drafting a QB next yr unless a few thing happen. If one of these 2 kids ascend to the position of Franchise QB and team leader, I either take the best QB at my pick next yr or I trade the pick for multiple picks . If neither step forward as a possible Franchise QB, I take the QB, and I have 2 kids from which to choose as his backup. Hopefully McCown would have done over that year what I signed him to do . If neither kid is ready to start the season, McCown gets the nod until one of the kids can take over and no later than the 9th game unless the record dictates differently . That's the Tinstar plan. Jets will do what the Jets will do, and I have no say . P.S . I'm signing a QB this year regardless, and it's either going to be in the 1st round or after the draft, but not in between . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 55 minutes ago, Warfish said: And? Listen, I like Petty, I wanted to see Petty play, and I would have loved to see Petty succeed. I did not see anything from Petty that gives me an objective belief that he is a legit franchise QB-in-training. More importantly, I don't think the Front Office sees Petty as that either. That leaves him the odd man out in any Hack + McCown + Draft Pick + Petty situation. No one has to like it, but disliking it won't change it. 50 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Agree with every single word in this post, said it better then I could. 4 minutes ago, Tinstar said: Me also, and as a matter of record, if the Jets drafted a QB at 6, they should cut Petty the next day . I wanted the Jets to sign McCown, and they did . I want the Jets to draft Trubisky if he's there at 6 and I hope they do . Going into the OTAs the Jets are going to be unveiling a new scheme and despite what they say, every rep is going to be crucial . This team cannot afford to split reps between 4 QBs and should not . McCown is who I wanted to bridge the gap between Hackenberg and My choice Trubisky. None of these 3 will prevent me from drafting a QB next yr unless a few thing happen. If one of these 2 kids ascend to the position of Franchise QB and team leader, I either take the best QB at my pick next yr or I trade the pick for multiple picks . If neither step forward as a possible Franchise QB, I take the QB, and I have 2 kids from which to choose as his backup. Hopefully McCown would have done over that year what I signed him to do . If neither kid is ready to start the season, McCown gets the nod until one of the kids can take over and no later than the 9th game unless the record dictates differently . That's the Tinstar plan. Jets will do what the Jets will do, and I have no say . P.S . I'm signing a QB this year regardless, and it's either going to be in the 1st round or after the draft, but not in between . I'm glad you all agree. How do the three of you rationalize Hackenberg being ahead of Petty? Sure, you can believe he Hackenberg will be better and predict it, but cutting Petty? WHAT THE **** HAS HACKENBERG SHOWN? If they are going to cut Petty as soon as they draft another QB, then Hackenberg has probably already been on roster for about 36 weeks to many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: I'm glad you all agree. How do the three of you rationalize Hackenberg being ahead of Petty? Sure, you can believe he Hackenberg will be better and predict it, but cutting Petty? WHAT THE **** HAS HACKENBERG SHOWN? If they are going to cut Petty as soon as they draft another QB, then Hackenberg has probably already been on roster for about 36 weeks to many. My conclusion has nothing to do with Hackenberg, it's based off of Petty already getting a shot, and looking very poor IMO. As far as Hack is concerned you, me, not anyone here know if he will be good, we haven't seen him so I'd say as a GM you don't cut your 2nd round pick from the year before that you said from the get go will get a Red Shirt year. I'm talking in realities not BS fan reactions. In reality if the Jets draft another QB Petty is the odd man out regardless of what us fans think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Just now, Lupz27 said: My conclusion has nothing to do with Hackenberg, it's based off of Petty already getting a shot, and looking very poor IMO. As far as Hack is concerned you, me, not anyone here know if he will be good, we haven't seen him so I'd say as a GM you don't cut your 2nd round pick from the year before that you said from the get go will get a Red Shirt year. I'm talking in realities not BS fan reactions. In reality if the Jets draft another QB Petty is the odd man out regardless of what us fans think. You also don't cut a guy that was obviously ahead of that 2nd round pick. Particularly when the 2nd round pick supposedly had experience in a pro system, while this is what they said about Petty coming out: He needs a year or two of practice time and camp work to learn how to get through his progressions, but has the intelligence to do that. More importantly, Petty has shown he can play in the league (no matter how poorly) and win and is under contract for 2017 and 2018 at a whopping $700k per. He is exactly what you want in a backup QB. Let's cut him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Jan 5, 2018: We knew the day we drafted him that we were going to redshirt Christian for his first two years. He's shown real improvement in the time he's been here, and next season he'll be given every chance to start for us. -- Bowles, Maccagnan, and other Jets' sauces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: I'm glad you all agree. How do the three of you rationalize Hackenberg being ahead of Petty? Sure, you can believe he Hackenberg will be better and predict it, but cutting Petty? WHAT THE **** HAS HACKENBERG SHOWN? If they are going to cut Petty as soon as they draft another QB, then Hackenberg has probably already been on roster for about 36 weeks to many. I can't and won't even try . All I will say is the Jets drafted Petty in the 4th round because they needed to add a QB and he was at the time, the best of what was available . 1 year later, the Jets spent a 2nd round pick on Hackenberg with the intention of sitting him for the year . During that time, Petty got a chance to start and the results were what the results were. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Sperm Edwards said: Jan 5, 2018: We knew the day we drafted him that we were going to redshirt Christian for his first two years. He's shown real improvement in the time he's been here, and next season he'll be given every chance to start for us. -- Bowles, Maccagnan, and other Jets' sauces Can you held me out with a few numbers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Petty would definitely be the odd man out if the Jets drafted a QB. Not sure how the Jets can give up on Hackenberg after red shirting him for a year and not giving him any opportunity to prove himself. Petty got to play, and he was not very good, and has also proven to be a little fragile. If the Jets draft a QB, Petty is gone IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I don't get the idea of cutting Petty because he is a back up meme being floated around out here. Well McCown is NOTHING more than a backup!! Why in the world would we get rid of a young cheaper back up in Petty (if that is what he is) for a guy in McCown who will be here at most for a year? And please spare me the mentoring facade; for the 4 MILLION DOLLARS you save you could hire 10 personal coaches, that is at least 3 coaches, for each of the young QBs to work with in order to mentor them!!! That is preposterous, and the reason why the Jets, who do stupid things like this all the time, seem to have no chance at functionality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, Tinstar said: I can't and won't even try . All I will say is the Jets drafted Petty in the 4th round because they needed to add a QB and he was at the time, the best of what was available . 1 year later, the Jets spent a 2nd round pick on Hackenberg with the intention of sitting him for the year . During that time, Petty got a chance to start and the results were what the results were. . His results werent bad... They showed promise and at worst a cheap backup status is possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: I don't get the idea of cutting Petty because he is a back up meme being floated around out here. Well McCown is NOTHING more than a backup!! Why in the world would we get rid of a young cheaper back up in Petty (if that is what he is) for a guy in McCown who will be here at most for a year? And please spare me the mentoring facade; for the 4 MILLION DOLLARS you save you could hire 10 personal coaches, that is at least 3 coaches, for each of the young QBs to work with in order to mentor them!!! That is preposterous, and the reason why the Jets, who do stupid things like this all the time, seem to have no chance at functionality. Why did the Cowboys signed Sanchez last year and tried to sign McCown this year ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Deserving of a red shirt year? Christian Hackenberg because he didn't see the field, we don't know what he has. Bryce Petty? Absolutely not! We've seen everything we have to see from him! Quote "Offenses that ask quarterbacks to look to the sidelines so coaches can make the pre-snap reads will never crank out NFL ready quarterbacks. Those quarterbacks all need redshirt years in the league." -- AFC West area scout Quote "After watching the tape, talking to both guys and seeing them work out, I have Petty ahead as my third quarterback." -- AFC quarterbacks coach The two guys ahead of him were Winston and Mariota. NOT DESERVING! How the **** can you expect to win if you don't know a QB is franchise worthy by the end of his second year? When Hackenberg spends the year backing up McCown and never sees the field, we will see what you guys have to say for him next offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 If we draft a QB Petty is probably cut unless we carry 4 QBs. They will keep McCown and Hack based off that hes a 2nd round pick a year ago. Petty is a really bad player too , average backup is his ceiling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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