Sarge4Tide Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 QB - None RB - Leonard Fournette (Cook and McCaffery would play a lot from day 1) WR - Mike Williams, Corey Davis, John Ross, Zay Jones, Curtis Samuel, Chris Godwin TE - OJ Howard, David Njoku, Evan Engram OL - Ryan Ramcyck, Garrett Boles, Cam Robinson , Pat Elfien DL - None unless Richardson is traded then Jonathan Allen, Taco Charlton, Malik McDowell, Chris Wormley LB - Garrett Myles, Solomon Thomas, Derrick Barnett, Hasson Reddick, Zach Cunningham, Takarist McKinley, Reuben Foster, TJ Watt CB - Marshon Lattimore, Gareon Conley, Tradavius White, Kevin King, Marlon Humphrey, Cordrea Tankersley, Chidobe Awuzie S - Jamal Adams, Malik Hooker, Budda Baker, Jabril Peppers, Obi Melifonwu, Marcus Williams, Marcus Maye, Desmond King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 At first glance- RB-don't overestimate Powell and Forte other than by what they are paid. Mixon and Kamarra, and likely others, would start too. TE-there may be others. Our two best TEs are suspended. Butt, others would start too. OL-that is probably right, but we don't really need any of them except Elfien. Pocic would start at C too. That is the position that most drives my desire for more picks/trades-Wes Johnson is fine, but he is FA next year and paid a fair bit this year. A 3rd round pick gets you a better C for less money for 4 years. This may drive a 3rd round pick anyway. DL-For the Jets 3/4, none of these guys, even if SR is traded. LB-Solomon Thomas is an undersized DE/DT. Reddick a funny fit with a 3/4. What about Ryan Anderson? Jordan Jenkins is a strong side OLB. The Jets need a rush OLB. CB-What about the guys from Florida? There are so many. S-John Johnson from BC too? There are so many. Given this draft and this roster, I am seeing 4 starters, maybe more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 All of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Woody Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Sarge4Tide said: QB - None RB - Leonard Fournette (Cook and McCaffery would play a lot from day 1) WR - Mike Williams, Corey Davis, John Ross, Zay Jones, Curtis Samuel, Chris Godwin TE - OJ Howard, David Njoku, Evan Engram OL - Ryan Ramcyck, Garrett Boles, Cam Robinson , Pat Elfien DL - None unless Richardson is traded then Jonathan Allen, Taco Charlton, Malik McDowell, Chris Wormley LB - Garrett Myles, Solomon Thomas, Derrick Barnett, Hasson Reddick, Zach Cunningham, Takarist McKinley, Reuben Foster, TJ Watt CB - Marshon Lattimore, Gareon Conley, Tradavius White, Kevin King, Marlon Humphrey, Cordrea Tankersley, Chidobe Awuzie S - Jamal Adams, Malik Hooker, Budda Baker, Jabril Peppers, Obi Melifonwu, Marcus Williams, Marcus Maye, Desmond King WR depends on if we cut Decker. Right now Decker, Enunwa are the starters and no rookie should come in and take their spot. I mean if they did great, but I think if we took Williams or Davis, they would be #3 but Decker would be in the slot (assuming new OC agrees he did very well there) in 3 WR sets. Unless you think #3 WR is in fact a starter which is fine too. Then the names make more sense, but I wouldn't put Ross, Samuel, Jones or Godwin over Robbie Anderson just yet. Camp battle for sure. If we took a DL....I kind of almost want to just to see the board drown in its own tears. Everything else..yes. Thought I'm not sure Solomon can play LB. If we got rid of Bowles, sure, we could make him a OLB in name only, and just have him move around the LOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Sarge4Tide said: QB - None RB - Leonard Fournette (Cook and McCaffery would play a lot from day 1) WR - Mike Williams, Corey Davis, John Ross, Zay Jones, Curtis Samuel, Chris Godwin TE - OJ Howard, David Njoku, Evan Engram OL - Ryan Ramcyck, Garrett Boles, Cam Robinson , Pat Elfien DL - None unless Richardson is traded then Jonathan Allen, Taco Charlton, Malik McDowell, Chris Wormley LB - Garrett Myles, Solomon Thomas, Derrick Barnett, Hasson Reddick, Zach Cunningham, Takarist McKinley, Reuben Foster, TJ Watt CB - Marshon Lattimore, Gareon Conley, Tradavius White, Kevin King, Marlon Humphrey, Cordrea Tankersley, Chidobe Awuzie S - Jamal Adams, Malik Hooker, Budda Baker, Jabril Peppers, Obi Melifonwu, Marcus Williams, Marcus Maye, Desmond King Man you missed so many CB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Remember when Bill Walsh took over the 49ers and they basically in one draft replaced 3/4 if not all of their secondary? And those were guys who went to the Super Bowl? That is what this year is for the Jets, plus 2 TEs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 That list is exactly why the Jets must find a trading partner for 6, and getting as many picks within first 4 rounds as possible This rumor about Cleveland has me hopeful. Makes sense for both teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Woody Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, flgreen said: That list is exactly why the Jets must find a trading partner for 6, and getting as many picks within first 4 rounds as possible This rumor about Cleveland has me hopeful. Makes sense for both teams Yeah but watch 49ers or Bears take Trubisky and all those plans blow up right in our faces. You are a Jets fan....you already know how this is gonna go. Just hope the draft gods are gentle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Lil Woody said: Yeah but watch 49ers or Bears take Trubisky and all those plans blow up right in our faces. You are a Jets fan....you already know how this is gonna go. Just hope the draft gods are gentle. Yep, could happen. Then I start praying someone is in love with Watson. I really want out of 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Woody Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 39 minutes ago, varjet said: Remember when Bill Walsh took over the 49ers and they basically in one draft replaced 3/4 if not all of their secondary? And those were guys who went to the Super Bowl? That is what this year is for the Jets, plus 2 TEs. Well sure....but there is this little matter of his 3rd round pick from 2 years prior....we'd need one of those too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 26 minutes ago, Lil Woody said: Well sure....but there is this little matter of his 3rd round pick from 2 years prior....we'd need one of those too. Who is that? Mauldin? I am not worried about the OLB THIS YEAR. I think Kevin Greene is going to work with Jenkins, Mauldin, Lemonier (real football player) and Martin and make them into something better. This is where Macc needs to do his job-he needs to grade the players. If an OLB is better than a S or CB, take him. I actually think the Jets can get a starting S and CB in the 3rd Round. THE JETS NEED MORE PICKS IN THIS DRAFT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 QB- ALL OF THEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Woody Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, varjet said: Who is that? Mauldin? I am not worried about the OLB THIS YEAR. I think Kevin Greene is going to work with Jenkins, Mauldin, Lemonier (real football player) and Martin and make them into something better. This is where Macc needs to do his job-he needs to grade the players. If an OLB is better than a S or CB, take him. I actually think the Jets can get a starting S and CB in the 3rd Round. THE JETS NEED MORE PICKS IN THIS DRAFT. Nah I meant the 49ers. They drafted Lott, Wright and Williams(?) in 81 but they did get Joe Montana in 79 in rd 3. A large piece of the puzzle we are currently lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Just now, Lil Woody said: Nah I meant the 49ers. They drafted Lott, Wright and Williams(?) in 81 but they did get Joe Montana in 79 in rd 3. A large piece of the puzzle we are currently lacking. Yes. This is the backwards/Broncos approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I think there are 8-10 TE's this draft who would start day one. Minimal competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Lil Woody said: Nah I meant the 49ers. They drafted Lott, Wright and Williams(?) in 81 but they did get Joe Montana in 79 in rd 3. A large piece of the puzzle we are currently lacking. Yeah, but they had a genius HC that could turn almost any QB into Joe Montana, any player into pure gold. Another large piece of the puzzle we are currently lacking. We have Todd Bowlfinger who needs a full roster of vet superstars developed by other coaches to compensate for his suckitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Both Kizer and Watson would start for us from day 1 at qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 7 hours ago, derp said: I think there are 8-10 TE's this draft who would start day one. Minimal competition. I think there are 8-10 TE's in this draft who would be by far our best tight end ever from day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 9 hours ago, joewilly12 said: QB- ALL OF THEM Yeah that's the most ridiculous thing I've read on a while. McCown/Petty/Hack are so good none of these Qb's would start from day 1?!?! Really!?!??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 7 hours ago, derp said: I think there are 8-10 TE's this draft who would start day one. Minimal competition. Yes but ASJ could outdrink all of them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Likely none of them, because Bowles has proven he doesn't start rooks from D1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I really want Budda Baker in the second round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, HessStation said: I really want Budda Baker in the second round. To pair with Gareon Conley from round one. Our defense would be impenetrable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 13 hours ago, Sarge4Tide said: QB - None lolwut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 hour ago, thadude said: Both Kizer and Watson would start for us from day 1 at qb No way! It's going to be an open competition. Low man gets cut. McCown will start a minimum of the first 3-4 games, then give way to whoever his backup is. Watson at 6 would be a mistake. Kizer later in the first, Mahomes in the 2nd round, or Peterman in the 3rd, I'd be all in on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, long suffering jets fan said: No way! It's going to be an open competition. Low man gets cut. McCown will start a minimum of the first 3-4 games, then give way to whoever his backup is. Watson at 6 would be a mistake. Sign me up for Kizer later in the first, Mahomes in the 2nd round, or Peterman in the 3rd, I'd be all in on. Personally, I think he will be the only one of this years QB's worth a damn in 3-4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 hour ago, thadude said: Yeah that's the most ridiculous thing I've read on a while. McCown/Petty/Hack are so good none of these Qb's would start from day 1?!?! Really!?!??? And what do you know about the guys coming in? Let's face it most QBs, even first round picks, never pan out, no matter how good they looked in college. Maybe a rookie set's himself apart at camp and starts after 3-4 games, but the chances of that happening are very small. That's why I think we need to pick up extra picks and draft 2 QBs. Then we have 4 young QBs in camp and a veteran, that would improve our odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, section314 said: Personally, I think he will be the only one of this years QB's worth a damn in 3-4 years. I would love that pick! I saw him beat Penn State and Clemson, he's got a chance in the pros. Watson may have won the national championship, but I wasn't impressed with him at all in those games. His arm isn't very strong and he's not all that accurate, both qualities which will be exploited in the pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 12 hours ago, Lupz27 said: Man you missed so many CB's. Indeed, CBs are strong this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: To pair with Gareon Conley from round one. Our defense would be impenetrable. What I want to know is how did Ohio State give up a Passing TD this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, HessStation said: What I want to know is how did Ohio State give up a Passing TD this year... Mike Williams toyed with all of those guys in the semi-final game. He's the guy I want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 14 hours ago, flgreen said: That list is exactly why the Jets must find a trading partner for 6, and getting as many picks within first 4 rounds as possible This rumor about Cleveland has me hopeful. Makes sense for both teams The QB's in this draft have approximately the same grades as guys taken in the first round in 2011. Their names? Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert and Christian Ponder. Anyone want any of these guys? Locker and Ponder are out of the league and Gabbert is hanging on as a backup. Draft Trubisky, Watson, Kiser or Mahomes in round one and that is what you will be getting. I predict that none of these guys becomes a top starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 4 hours ago, thadude said: Yeah that's the most ridiculous thing I've read on a while. McCown/Petty/Hack are so good none of these Qb's would start from day 1?!?! Really!?!??? Read it and weep thats right all are better than the trash heap we have here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Ex-Rex said: The QB's in this draft have approximately the same grades as guys taken in the first round in 2011. Their names? Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert and Christian Ponder. Anyone want any of these guys? Locker and Ponder are out of the league and Gabbert is hanging on as a backup. Draft Trubisky, Watson, Kiser or Mahomes in round one and that is what you will be getting. I predict that none of these guys becomes a top starter. What grade did Bridgewater have or Derek Carr ? What grade did Jared Goff have or Paxton Lynch for that matter ? How does a QB being considered for the 1st overall pick get drafted at the end of the 1st round and become a SB MVP ? Where is it written in blood that a QB taken in the top 10 has to open that season as the starter or it's a wasted pick ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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