CrazyCarl40 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, NoBowles said: Lol I figured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 1 hour ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Raw talent, isn't afraid of a pass rush, lot less to fix mechanically, isn't a complete mess. Ceiling is way higher for Kizer. Carl, he completed less than 60% of his passes last year. This is a non-starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Carl, he completed less than 60% of his passes last year. This is a non-starter. 63% the year before. Take away the hurricane (literally playing in a hurricane) game and it's 61%. So, no. You're wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: 63% the year before. Take away the hurricane (literally playing in a hurricane) game and it's 61%. So, no. You're wrong. Oh man, I didn't realize we could decide which games count and which games don't. Let me run Hackenberg's numbers again and get back to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Just now, dbatesman said: Oh man, I didn't realize we could decide which games count and which games don't. Let me run Hackenberg's numbers again and get back to you In most scientific experiments you take the highest and lowest outliers and throw them away and then take the average of the rest. If you want to base a guys future on one game in a massive storm, so be it. He still has the highest ceiling and most potential of any of the QBs in this draft. Whether he realizes it or not depends on the situation he gets drafted into. That's why I hope it's not the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Just now, CrazyCarl40 said: In most scientific experiments you take the highest and lowest outliers and throw them away and then take the average of the rest. If you want to base a guys future on one game in a massive storm, so be it. He still has the highest ceiling and most potential of any of the QBs in this draft. Whether he realizes it or not depends on the situation he gets drafted into. That's why I hope it's not the Jets. Red hot hedgin' action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Gonna go back and revisit those Ron Powlus evals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#90 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 The Kid is super smart, athletic and has big arm. He put up some nice stats with no weapons on offense to work with and had to over come dealing with a psychotic coach. Yup, pass on the kid. ONLY THE JETS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adb280z Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 2 hours ago, dbatesman said: Oh man, I didn't realize we could decide which games count and which games don't. Let me run Hackenberg's numbers again and get back to you I watched the game he's referring to. No one's stats from that game should be counted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 11 hours ago, dbatesman said: Carl, he completed less than 60% of his passes last year. This is a non-starter. Because he played NC State in a hurricane. Take that game out of the schedule his completion percentage is over 60% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 9 hours ago, #90 said: The Kid is super smart, athletic and has big arm. He put up some nice stats with no weapons on offense to work with and had to over come dealing with a psychotic coach. Yup, pass on the kid. ONLY THE JETS. I wonder what dumbass 2nd round pick we make this year instead of Kizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 1 minute ago, thadude said: Because he played NC State in a hurricane. Take that game out of the schedule his completion percentage is over 60% Wow, is this true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 1 minute ago, dbatesman said: Wow, is this true? Pretty much. Game should have been moved but they were stubborn. There were 60-80 mph winds during the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, Klecko73isGod said: Pretty much. Game should have been moved but they were stubborn. There were 60-80 mph winds during the game. Oh wow--probably shouldn't count against him then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Wow, is this true? http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=400868951 Kizer went 9 for 26 playing in Hurricane Matthew Hackenberg goes 9 for 26 in a dome facility against practice squad guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 13 hours ago, NoBowles said: What makes him any better prospect than Hack? He went to Notre Dame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, thadude said: http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=400868951 Kizer went 9 for 26 playing in Hurricane Matthew Hackenberg goes 9 for 26 in a dome facility against practice squad guys Wowsers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: He went to Notre Dame Well that and he doesn't suck a giant c0ck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I think Kizer is a reach at that point and does not provide us any more of a sure thing than Hackenberg. But, I like it better than any of these bums in round 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, thadude said: Well that and he doesn't suck a giant c0ck Your evaluation of qb's seems to go to some pretty deep extremes. Good for you. You seem to have some real first hand knowledge here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, Stonehands said: I think Kizer is a reach at that point and does not provide us any more of a sure thing than Hackenberg. But, I like it better than any of these bums in round 1. Trubisky, Watson and Kizer are all 2nd rounders to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 why not, the more the merrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Scott Dierking said: He went to Notre Dame Exactly. This site needs to be renamed agenda nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 1 hour ago, peebag said: why not, the more the merrier. I thought Mac's idea was to keep drafting Qb's until he found his guy McCown, Hack and Petty are not "the guy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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