NoBowles Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Just now, HessStation said: 13 games 8-5. You watch the kid interview he's a deer in headlights. He is NOT going to take over an NFL locker room D1. He's a real solid prospect but he'll need time. Taking him in the Top 10 is like automatically setting him up for failure bc I don't think this is the type of personality who's going to respond well to unrealistic expectations from the start. Trubisky to a Saints fan, if I were, sounds amazing. To the Bills, Browns,Jets etc, it sounds more like oh no here we go again. I don't disagree at all, but I can come up with significant critiques for Watson, Mahomes and Kizer as well. They all have some positives, and they all have question marks. Hence why I want no part of a first round QB this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 26 minutes ago, NoBowles said: I don't disagree at all, but I can come up with significant critiques for Watson, Mahomes and Kizer as well. They all have some positives, and they all have question marks. Hence why I want no part of a first round QB this year. I agree with you. I'm just saying Trubisky early all points towards a disaster. If I'm gonna risk early as an NFL franchise you'd think they'd either go more solid, sure thing in Watson or shoot for the stars with a more talented Mahomes, and maybe even Kizer too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 9 minutes ago, HessStation said: I agree with you. I'm just saying Trubisky early all points towards a disaster. If I'm gonna risk early as an NFL franchise you'd think they'd either go more solid, sure thing in Watson or shoot for the stars with a more talented Mahomes, and maybe even Kizer too. I hear you, just saying I don't think its any conspiracy, I think its a result of a lack of QB talent in this draft combined with the QB neediness of the NFL. I like Mahomes the most out of all of them, but I am also of the opinion that he has a huge hurdle to make it in the NFL, and I would not risk taking him as early as you would need to, to get him, because of the factors I mention above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 1 hour ago, SAR I said: Does your Apple Watch get you any girl you want without the need for wasting time and sweating like a blue collar worker at a place like Soul Cycle? Nope, didn't think so. SAR I Call it by its true name "iWatch" rather than the "less creepy" name of "Apple Watch". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 I bought a fit bit watch last November. I still can't get it to work. i have burned many calories and my heart rate has been elevated due to this though so its all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 1 hour ago, NoBowles said: I hear you, just saying I don't think its any conspiracy, I think its a result of a lack of QB talent in this draft combined with the QB neediness of the NFL. I like Mahomes the most out of all of them, but I am also of the opinion that he has a huge hurdle to make it in the NFL, and I would not risk taking him as early as you would need to, to get him, because of the factors I mention above. Dude I hear you, I currently run the CT chapter for Suck4Sam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Only 1 Full Season as a starter in College In 2016 the Tarheels went 8-5 with Trubisky. In 2015, with Marquise Williams as the starter, they went 11-3 (Marquise Williams went undrafted in 2015) In 2016 the Tarheels went 5-3 in the ACC with Trubisky. In 2015 they went 8-0 with Williams In 2016 the Tarheels were ranked 45th in the Nation in Total Offense with Trubisky. In 2015 they were ranked 12th with Williams (Clemson was ranked 1st and 2nd respectively) In 2016 the Tarheels were ranked 34th in the Nation in Passing Yards with Trubisky. In 2015 they were ranked 22nd with Willams (Texas Tech was ranked 1st & 2nd respectively) Trubisky went 1-4 vs. Nationally Ranked Top 20 Teams On October 8th, the Trubisky led Tarheels lost 34-3 to Virginia Tech at Home on National TV. Virginia Tech's Defense was 36th in the Nation North Carolina ended the 2016 Season not ranked in either poll and lost Trubisky's (1) Bowl Game start Despite being listed at 6'3 in the Tarheel roster, Trubisky only measured in at 6'2 at the NFL Combine Average size hands and arm length (9 1/2 & 32) Considered to have a "live arm" but not necessarily a "cannon" 98% of his college snaps came out of the Shotgun ...Now go watch him interview and watch him in the film room with Gruden. Look at his body language. If you think this kid is ready to be the starting QB on an NFL team you are some kind of high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, HessStation said: Only 1 Full Season as a starter in College In 2016 the Tarheels went 8-5 with Trubisky. In 2015, with Marquise Williams as the starter, they went 11-3 (Marquise Williams went undrafted in 2015) In 2016 the Tarheels went 5-3 in the ACC with Trubisky. In 2015 they went 8-0 with Williams In 2016 the Tarheels were ranked 45th in the Nation in Total Offense with Trubisky. In 2015 they were ranked 12th with Williams (Clemson was ranked 1st and 2nd respectively) In 2016 the Tarheels were ranked 34th in the Nation in Passing Yards with Trubisky. In 2015 they were ranked 22nd with Willams (Texas Tech was ranked 1st & 2nd respectively) Trubisky went 1-4 vs. Nationally Ranked Top 20 Teams On October 8th, the Trubisky led Tarheels lost 34-3 to Virginia Tech at Home on National TV. Virginia Tech's Defense was 36th in the Nation North Carolina ended the 2016 Season not ranked in either poll and lost Trubisky's (1) Bowl Game start Despite being listed at 6'3 in the Tarheel roster, Trubisky only measured in at 6'2 at the NFL Combine Average size hands and arm length (9 1/2 & 32) Considered to have a "live arm" but not necessarily a "cannon" 98% of his college snaps came out of the Shotgun ...Now go watch him interview and watch him in the field room with Gruden. Look at his body language. If you think this kid is ready to be the starting QB on an NFL team you are some kind of high. ssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh cleveland may hear you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 4 hours ago, HessStation said: Are you trying to say chicks are more attracted to fat, ugly rich men than good looking, fit middle class men? *snorts No. I'm saying chicks are attracted to money, looks don't matter unless the poor lass has no shot at a richie in which case it's a pick-of-the-litter kind of thing. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 4 hours ago, Skeptable said: I am moving more and more into your camp but I don't think its Mitch... I think its Maholmes and that is why they want to trade down... Mitch won't be there if they trade down or may not even be there at 6. I don't think this Malhotra guy has that kind of "gotta pay my PSL invoice right now!" mojo. Never heard of him until this week. We've been Mitchell "Mitch" teased for months. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 4 hours ago, southtown24th said: Draft a QB until you find a QB. Agreed. And then let them sit on the bench for 2 years without playing time and let the media leak that they're busts. All that matters is that the fanbase is excited about the new guy. Whether or not he wins is immaterial. Because there's always the red hot name next year. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Just now, SAR I said: I don't think this Malhotra guy has that kind of "gotta pay my PSL invoice right now!" mojo. Never heard of him until this week. We've been Mitchell "Mitch" teased for months. SAR I the jets aren't taking a qb in the first, even if they stay at 6. mccags has shown he will swing for the fences in the 2nd, but not round 1. whether they stay at 6 or trade back, i believe this is finally the year they go O and take either howard or the miami TE. if he wants hack to succeed he's got to put a TE on the field who can help move the chains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 4 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: Maybe for peasants without a gold case and space grey strap, but that's not a problem for me. Score! Bet there's more than 24 carat magic in the air at your place. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 49 minutes ago, HessStation said: Only 1 Full Season as a starter in College In 2016 the Tarheels went 8-5 with Trubisky. In 2015, with Marquise Williams as the starter, they went 11-3 (Marquise Williams went undrafted in 2015) In 2016 the Tarheels went 5-3 in the ACC with Trubisky. In 2015 they went 8-0 with Williams In 2016 the Tarheels were ranked 45th in the Nation in Total Offense with Trubisky. In 2015 they were ranked 12th with Williams (Clemson was ranked 1st and 2nd respectively) In 2016 the Tarheels were ranked 34th in the Nation in Passing Yards with Trubisky. In 2015 they were ranked 22nd with Willams (Texas Tech was ranked 1st & 2nd respectively) Trubisky went 1-4 vs. Nationally Ranked Top 20 Teams On October 8th, the Trubisky led Tarheels lost 34-3 to Virginia Tech at Home on National TV. Virginia Tech's Defense was 36th in the Nation North Carolina ended the 2016 Season not ranked in either poll and lost Trubisky's (1) Bowl Game start Despite being listed at 6'3 in the Tarheel roster, Trubisky only measured in at 6'2 at the NFL Combine Average size hands and arm length (9 1/2 & 32) Considered to have a "live arm" but not necessarily a "cannon" 98% of his college snaps came out of the Shotgun ...Now go watch him interview and watch him in the film room with Gruden. Look at his body language. If you think this kid is ready to be the starting QB on an NFL team you are some kind of high. You can't prove any of this. DITCH FOR MITCH! [Ditchell For Mitchell] SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, SAR I said: Agreed. And then let them sit on the bench for 2 years without playing time and let the media leak that they're busts. All that matters is that the fanbase is excited about the new guy. Whether or not he wins is immaterial. Because there's always the red hot name next year. SAR I reverse psychology on poor jet fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Just now, SAR I said: You can't prove any of this. DITCH FOR MITCH! [Ditchell For Mitchell] SAR I It should probably be printed in gold text and framed above your OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Much easier said than done. Missing on a high QB pick is one of the biggest reasons GM's get fired. At the end of the day we need someone in here who can identify, and develop QB talent. I am not sure we have either right now. Know what else gets a GM fired?Having the #6 pick on a QB starved team and passing on a legitimate QB prospect. The league is more likely to understand picking a QB in round 1 at 6 and having him bust than picking a league average safety or TE at 6. And since you don't pay 1st Rd QBs tens of millions anymore with the slotted pay scale it actually hurts worse to bust on a #6 pick S or TE than a #6 QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 5 hours ago, HessStation said: Only 1 Full Season as a starter in College In 2016 the Tarheels went 8-5 with Trubisky. In 2015, with Marquise Williams as the starter, they went 11-3 (Marquise Williams went undrafted in 2015) In 2016 the Tarheels went 5-3 in the ACC with Trubisky. In 2015 they went 8-0 with Williams In 2016 the Tarheels were ranked 45th in the Nation in Total Offense with Trubisky. In 2015 they were ranked 12th with Williams (Clemson was ranked 1st and 2nd respectively) In 2016 the Tarheels were ranked 34th in the Nation in Passing Yards with Trubisky. In 2015 they were ranked 22nd with Willams (Texas Tech was ranked 1st & 2nd respectively) Trubisky went 1-4 vs. Nationally Ranked Top 20 Teams On October 8th, the Trubisky led Tarheels lost 34-3 to Virginia Tech at Home on National TV. Virginia Tech's Defense was 36th in the Nation North Carolina ended the 2016 Season not ranked in either poll and lost Trubisky's (1) Bowl Game start Despite being listed at 6'3 in the Tarheel roster, Trubisky only measured in at 6'2 at the NFL Combine Average size hands and arm length (9 1/2 & 32) Considered to have a "live arm" but not necessarily a "cannon" 98% of his college snaps came out of the Shotgun ...Now go watch him interview and watch him in the film room with Gruden. Look at his body language. If you think this kid is ready to be the starting QB on an NFL team you are some kind of high. Would it help any if he converted to Judiasm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 Oh no, now we have to trade for him. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, SAR I said: Oh no, now we have to trade for him. SAR I Hack even up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Well Mitch Trubisky was *a* pick at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 On 4/24/2017 at 10:28 AM, SAR I said: How do I know? Because I'm sitting here dreading the May 1 deadline for writing a check for $5,500 for this year's season tickets, completely uninterested in the schedule that was released a few days ago, I don't believe in my head coach, I don't like a single player on the roster, I'm about as unenthused as I've ever been as a Jets fan. And I'm pretty sure I'm not alone. There is only one thing that can turn around a disinterested fanbase and that's a hot young quarterback. People get excited about that. Fans show up for that. I know I would. So Trubisky it is. It's simply good for business. SAR I A big x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 I said Trubisky would not be available. He is an NFL quality QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 On 4/24/2017 at 10:28 AM, SAR I said: How do I know? Because I'm sitting here dreading the May 1 deadline for writing a check for $5,500 for this year's season tickets, completely uninterested in the schedule that was released a few days ago, I don't believe in my head coach, I don't like a single player on the roster, I'm about as unenthused as I've ever been as a Jets fan. And I'm pretty sure I'm not alone. There is only one thing that can turn around a disinterested fanbase and that's a hot young quarterback. People get excited about that. Fans show up for that. I know I would. So Trubisky it is. It's simply good for business. SAR I Two safeties!!! Maybe you ought to add some gratuity on that check! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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