whodeawhodat Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Watched this last night on ESPN. Was very cool. That 1st round was stacked and not just with QBs. Also, I had no idea that Marino was sh*t his last year at Pitt. Was pretty incredible to hear the old timers talk about their views on scouting NFL players as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Yes it was stacked and we ended up with Ken O'Brien and wasted very talented teams in the 80s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 12 minutes ago, nyjunc said: Yes it was stacked and we ended up with Ken O'Brien and wasted very talented teams in the 80s could have drafted blackledge... On another note about the 30 for 30, Accorsi knew there were no QBs coming out the next year worth a damn and could have traded Elway(or his rights) the following year. He came off as one pretty smart dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 10 minutes ago, whodeawhodat said: could have drafted blackledge... On another note about the 30 for 30, Accorsi knew there were no QBs coming out the next year worth a damn and could have traded Elway(or his rights) the following year. He came off as one pretty smart dude. Also got Eli for the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 58 minutes ago, whodeawhodat said: could have drafted blackledge... On another note about the 30 for 30, Accorsi knew there were no QBs coming out the next year worth a damn and could have traded Elway(or his rights) the following year. He came off as one pretty smart dude. Boomer was in the 84 draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 49 minutes ago, section314 said: Also got Eli for the Giants. Could have had Ben w/o having to move up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 11 minutes ago, nyjunc said: Boomer was in the 84 draft yup and was a 2nd round pick. no qbs in the first round that year if i remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Steve young went to USFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 2 hours ago, nyjunc said: Boomer was in the 84 draft yea....no qbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 3 hours ago, nyjunc said: Yes it was stacked and we ended up with Ken O'Brien and wasted very talented teams in the 80s O'Brien was probably the third best QB that played initially (Kelly went to the USFL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: O'Brien was probably the third best QB that played initially (Kelly went to the USFL) That doesn't mean much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, nyjunc said: That doesn't mean much Does to me. Ken O'Brien was a solid QB. You can't deny that. Also what helps is that Marino never won a title and only got to one Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: Does to me. Ken O'Brien was a solid QB. You can't deny that. Also what helps is that Marino never won a title and only got to one Super Bowl. What blows my mind is just how bad Marino played his last year at Pitt. Teams were positive he was on drugs, thats how bad he slipped from the prior year. I cant think of a current draft where a QB played so horribly his final year and still went in Rd 1. To me it was a huge risk and the fish were rewarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 8 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Does to me. Ken O'Brien was a solid QB. You can't deny that. Also what helps is that Marino never won a title and only got to one Super Bowl. Yeah but do the 86 Jets win the SB if Marino is the QB, and not O'Brein? Also Marino to Toon would have been epic, maybe Toon would have played 5 more seasons because his QB didn't put him in bad spots to go catch the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 It was funny hearing some of the prognosticators during the draft blasting Miami for picking Marino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 31 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Does to me. Ken O'Brien was a solid QB. You can't deny that. Also what helps is that Marino never won a title and only got to one Super Bowl. Kenny took over a young, talented team and never won a playoff game. If we have Marino we make multiple super bowls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 4 hours ago, nyjunc said: Could have had Ben w/o having to move up Would have had Ben and Merriman, Kaeding and Obden on their roster. They had Rivers ranked higher and would have kept him though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkus Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 3 hours ago, whodeawhodat said: What blows my mind is just how bad Marino played his last year at Pitt. Teams were positive he was on drugs, thats how bad he slipped from the prior year. I cant think of a current draft where a QB played so horribly his final year and still went in Rd 1. To me it was a huge risk and the fish were rewarded. Maybe hackenberg will turn out same?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 15 hours ago, Barkus said: Maybe hackenberg will turn out same?? from your lips bruddah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 16 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Would have had Ben and Merriman, Kaeding and Obden on their roster. They had Rivers ranked higher and would have kept him though They are got lucky D's carried them to SBs or that decision would have haunted them for many years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 On 4/25/2017 at 2:37 PM, Lupz27 said: Yeah but do the 86 Jets win the SB if Marino is the QB, and not O'Brein? Also Marino to Toon would have been epic, maybe Toon would have played 5 more seasons because his QB didn't put him in bad spots to go catch the ball. Yeah, O'Brien always laid him out. It was painful to watch at times, but I'll be laughing up my sleeve all the way to the crematorium that that fukko Marino never got a ring. Fukkkkkk Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 In all seriousness, Marino was a great QB and I give grudging credit. That motherfukker should die with a rusty railroad spike to the temple for the spike play, and Aaron Glenn should eat sh it for the rest of his life, but I digress. I think the systemic problem with the Jets is that it's an insoluble problem, and I don't think Marino would've solved it. I mean, look at his sh ittty Wonderlic score. The draft is like a rabbit chasing a hare. You get gems from puddingstone once in a while, but really, it's just a happy accident. All that being said, I think scouting is overrated. If I closed my eyes and eeny miney moed, I'd probably do a better job. I'm just disappointed that there's no-one named DeFlorious Jack'OLantern Green this year. What is this goddamned world coming to, I ask you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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