Pointdexter Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Not this again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 The jets have no QB, no edge passrusher or LT, and little caproom Thats brutal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 yes he is slowly but surely creating a young comepetitive team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, Larz said: The jets have no QB, no edge passrusher or LT, and little caproom Thats brutal Couldn't agree more. The only thing that is missing from this Jets draft is a punter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 No hes done a poor job so far but he is dealing with an awful awful coach who has no clue on how to use the players he is providing. His best two picks we slam dunk 6th overall fall into your lap picks. He has made a lot of terrible picks and head scratching priorities. Seems he wants to appease Bowles and his inability to coach defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: No hes done a poor job so far but he is dealing with an awful awful coach who has no clue on how to use the players he is providing. His best two picks we slam dunk 6th overall fall into your lap picks. He has made a lot of terrible picks and head scratching priorities. Seems he wants to appease Bowles and his inability to coach defense. Good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 at first I was thinking A+, but then I remembered there's such a thing as an A++, so let's go with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 The guy who dropped 40 million on the secondary two years ago only to cut most of them this year and have to use high round picks to replace all of them? The guy who came to this organization that had zero talent at the most important positions on the field and two years later still doesn't have any there? Yeah. Doing a bang up job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 It's not so simple. This is his third year and the team regressed last season and his choice of HC, the guy didn't do a good job. Some of his moves and signings have been gross failures. But you've got to give him at least 3 years to see where we are at. You can't jump on him for the 2017 draft so far it doesn't look bad at all. He got a top player in the sixth slot like he did two years ago and that was one of his best decisions. To rebuild the secondary is smart because they were terrible last year even though we have a HC who is supposedly an DB expert. They were all screwed up last year. So far I give him a C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Ask me one year from now. After the first round of the 2018 draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Ask me one year from now. After the first round of the 2018 draft. The one in which buffalo or Cleveland trades up to get the franchise qb and we tell the world 'we tried really hard to trade up' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 A Gm should be be able to fix any team in three years. let's talk at Thanksgiving, but it ain't looking good, unless years 1 and 2 were Woody meddled mulligans, and the true rebuild has started now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 25 minutes ago, Larz said: The jets have no QB, no edge passrusher or LT, and little caproom Thats brutal If the plan is to rebuild we are in a good position to land a franchise qb next season with a ton of caproom to spend on veterans on the offensive line. He inherited a bad team, it has not been fixed yet but we are looking line we will be in a good place next season to get things moving rapidly in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Hard to say he's doing anything other than a bad job, also appears to me that Bowles has a very big say in personnel decisions. At the end of the day, our owner is a ******* moron dipsh*t a$$hole who has no clue how to run a team, and is too stupid to know he can't run a team. So we can sit and argue and complain about Idzik, Tanny, Maccagnan, but it's all pointless, the real problem is our awful owner, the fish stinks from the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 26 minutes ago, DonCorleone said: Couldn't agree more. The only thing that is missing from this Jets draft is a punter. Patience. They have 6 more picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: The one in which buffalo or Cleveland trades up to get the franchise qb and we tell the world 'we tried really hard to trade up' Nobody drafting 1-3 next year will be trading out of their pick unless it's a team that already has a franchise QB who happened to get injured, thus giving them a poor record and high pick. Cleveland just picked a developmental QB with much higher upside than Hack, imo. And the way their new philosophy seems to indicate, they won't be trading an entire draft for one guy. And I don't see Buffalo being worse than the Jets. Honestly, this year needs to go one of two ways.... Hackenberg wins the job at some point and blows us away......Or we go 2-14 and position ourselves to get Darnold/Rosen. Anything other than that (6-10 with McCown? Hack and Mac split time for a pointless and stupid 5-11?) Is a failure and sets the franchise back 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Just now, flgreen said: Patience. They have 6 more picks You're right. I am just a bit nervous that we may miss out on a punter that might become the foundation of our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 26 minutes ago, Beerfish said: No hes done a poor job so far but he is dealing with an awful awful coach who has no clue on how to use the players he is providing. His best two picks we slam dunk 6th overall fall into your lap picks. He has made a lot of terrible picks and head scratching priorities. Seems he wants to appease Bowles and his inability to coach defense. I agree, Bowles is a problem and I'm not sure Macc has it in him to fire him. I get that he was 10-6 the first year, but the 2nd year was unacceptable. One thing we had with Rex is players played hard for him, with Bowles I see alot of bad behaviour from players and he outwardly says it doesn't bother him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 39 minutes ago, Larz said: The jets have no QB, no edge passrusher or LT, and little caproom Thats brutal Truth be told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 9 minutes ago, NoBowles said: Hard to say he's doing anything other than a bad job, also appears to me that Bowles has a very big say in personnel decisions. At the end of the day, our owner is a ******* moron dipsh*t a$$hole who has no clue how to run a team, and is too stupid to know he can't run a team. So we can sit and argue and complain about Idzik, Tanny, Maccagnan, but it's all pointless, the real problem is our awful owner, the fish stinks from the head. The fact that both Macc and Bowles report to Woody is the first thing I'd change. Coaches report to GMs in my book. This was an overreaction to the Idzik, Rex debacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Truth be told. Joe, I am starting to get worried. We used to disagree on everything....Now we agree on way too much. One of us needs to take the first step in admitting we have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH THE PAIN Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 34 minutes ago, DonCorleone said: Good point Leave the gun . Take the cannolis . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Just now, OH THE PAIN said: Leave the gun . Take the cannolis . Right about now, I'd take them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Jamal Adam's fell to Mike Maccagnan he couldn't screw that up if he tried. The rest of draft so far has been very questionable to say the least. We are supposedly so deep at WR like many say but drafted the unknown in round 3 who seems to be a carbon copy of other WR's on the roster. Today is a new day lets all hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 You guys are so hilarious with your hypocrisy. 2 years ago when Mac was spending money like money was going out of style, he was good. He spent money to appease you impatient fans after a rebuilding team from the year before had a bad record. What did you think was going to happen once all the late prime vets aged out? We probably would've been much further along had we continued to rebuild instead of doing quick fixes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 42 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: The guy who dropped 40 million on the secondary two years ago only to cut most of them this year and have to use high round picks to replace all of them? The guy who came to this organization that had zero talent at the most important positions on the field and two years later still doesn't have any there? Yeah. Doing a bang up job. THIS! Sorry but I've moved into the "I used to think so" camp. Now I'm just hoping to be proved wrong....pretty sad really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 27 minutes ago, DonCorleone said: You're right. I am just a bit nervous that we may miss out on a punter that might become the foundation of our team. Practice makes perfect we probably have the led the league in punting statistics the last decade or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 I'm hanging in with Mac. I give him a B. I think he's a good talent evaluator. I think we got screwed by the 2015 Fool's Gold 10-6 Fitzpatrick season. My real ONLY BIG problem is how he has bungled the Wilkerson/Sheldon situations. Really bad actually. He didn't trade them when they had max value even though this logjam after the Leonar Williams pick was obvious to EVERYONE. Now both guys value is at rock bottom. Sheldon should be a top 5 interior DL and he has no motivation and a worsening attitude and we can't even get a 3rd round pick for him. And then he totally seemed to cave and overpay Mo Wilk at peak value who goes on to absolutely dog it last season. Didn't maximize value and there just didn't seem to be a coherent thought out plan. Plus we lost the best DT/NT in football to keep these guys. Yeah that was bad but overall I still am a fairly Big Mac supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointdexter Posted April 29, 2017 Author Share Posted April 29, 2017 Can anyone rationally defend trading out of rd 3 for a mid 4th and a 6th? I'm still trying to wrap my head around that one. That probably cost us an excellent TE prospect in Jake Butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Pointdexter said: Can anyone rationally defend trading out of rd 3 for a mid 4th and a 6th? I'm still trying to wrap my head around that one. That probably cost us an excellent TE prospect in Jake Butt. the last pick in 3rd....down 19 spots to pick up a 6th yes I think that is fine by me let you in little secret.....Butt is not even the 4th best TE left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 The Mccown singing is a perfect example on MM's ineptitude. Made no sense to clog the QB slot with an overpaid vet you could have signed for much less if need be after the draft. entirely possible a mess of vets will flood the street come Monday. we could ahve had Watson or Mahomes, but, no, instead we have this mess. Why overpay for a guy you should not want to play over your 2 young uns already here? May be the Bears are only saying Trubisky will play only to bid up GIennon. I really don't understand; if the plan is in fact to suck for Sam, why is Mccown here at all? Either Hack or Petty gets it, or they don't it's a mess and you get your shot at Darnold or Rosen. Overpaying a stopgap guy who might screw things up by not sucking enough is imbecilic. Unless he can play safety ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Just now, Bugg said: The Mccown singing is a perfect example on MM's ineptitude. Made no sense to clog the QB slot with an overpaid vet you could have signed for much less if need be after the draft. entirely possible a mess of vets will flood the street come Monday. we could ahve had Watson or Mahomes, but, no, instead we have this mess. Why overpay for a guy you should not want to play over your 2 young uns already here? May be the Bears are only saying Trubisky will play only to bid up GIennon. I really don't understand; if the plan is in fact to suck for Sam, why is Mccown here at all? Either Hack or Petty gets it, or they don't it's a mess and you get your shot at Darnold or Rosen. Overpaying a stopgap guy who might screw things up by not sucking enough is imbecilic. Unless he can play safety ... This is a desperation move just like the Fitzpatrick signing, fans would think so much more of Macc if he went with Petty,Hack and a rookie and let them battle it out in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 I think he deserves an extension for not pulling stupid sh*t and reaching for players to appease the fans. Dude's got a long term plan with the beginning of the Golden Years starting in 2018 when Darnold takes them to an 8-8 season as a rookie. And a Super Bowl in 2020. **** yes!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: This is a desperation move just like the Fitzpatrick signing, fans would think so much more of Macc if he went with Petty,Hack and a rookie and let them battle it out in camp. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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