The Troll Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Four defensive backs drafted this year, including in the first two rounds. Four offensive linemen drafted in the last FIVE YEARS, none higher than the fourth round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Just now, The Troll said: Four defensive backs drafted this year, including in the first two rounds. Four offensive linemen drafted in the last FIVE YEARS, none higher than the fourth round. I'm fine with their picks this year, but I am sad they didn't grab any OL. But most places agreed it was a fairly weak class. No use in reaching just to say "hey look, we took OL!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 To win in the nfl you have to get to the QB and protect the QB....oh...wait....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Hot take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Worst draft since 2010 and that's saying something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Google Jets don't know how to draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: To win in the nfl you have to get to the QB and protect the QB....oh...wait....... No you have to play quarters defense all 4 downs with 10 strong safeties after Hack throws a pick or fumbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persiussa Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 This team is a few drafts away from really getting where we need to be. We might as well take the best players available and not try to push needs because no matter what direction we went in there was still always going to be holes. i do agree I wanted oline badly but were just gonna have to address it next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Lizard King said: Google Jets don't know how to draft. This franchise is embarassing itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Just now, Persiussa said: This team is a few drafts away from really getting where we need to be. We might as well take the best players available and not try to push needs because no matter what direction we went in there was still always going to be holes. i do agree I wanted oline badly but were just gonna have to address it next year. We're not going BAP tho This entire draft is the Todd Bowles asskissfest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, DMan77 said: I'm fine with their picks this year, but I am sad they didn't grab any OL. But most places agreed it was a fairly weak class. No use in reaching just to say "hey look, we took OL!" Crazy thing is our OL isn't even that bad. The main problems are no Qb, pass rush and we needed another receiver either wideout or tight end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Jets o-line is ok. Could use another tackle, but even the top tackles in this draft were very meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 JET fans are soooo schmaat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Just now, thadude said: Crazy thing is our OL isn't even that bad. The main problems are no Qb, pass rush and we needed another receiver either wideout or tight end It's just that LT piece that kills me! Not having that anchor to look to makes me feel like it can't be better than just OK. But you're right.. Our guards are solid. I think RT is all set. Even our "new" center did a decent job... Just need a little more depth and an LT and it's really pretty good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 When You think about it, the secondary was awesome last year. So in a draft deep in secondary but weak in o-line, take o-line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, DMan77 said: It's just that LT piece that kills me! Not having that anchor to look to makes me feel like it can't be better than just OK. But you're right.. Our guards are solid. I think RT is all set. Even our "new" center did a decent job... Just need a little more depth and an LT and it's really pretty good! I would have loved Cam at 39 but he wouldn't have fallen that far plus no way Mac drafts him he doesn't play Strong Safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 12 minutes ago, Beerfish said: To win in the nfl you have to get to the QB and protect the QB....oh...wait....... Patience grasshopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcronin Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Four defensive backs drafted this year, including in the first two rounds. Four offensive linemen drafted in the last FIVE YEARS, none higher than the fourth round. Watch any game from last year. We need DBs!Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Decent draft IMO. Hate the Maye pick, but that's a 2nd rounder, they don't really count for the Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted April 29, 2017 Author Share Posted April 29, 2017 Dallas and Tennessee should be the blueprints of how to build a team right now. They both sunk a ton of draft capital into the offensive line and as a result, they have elite running games that take the pressure off their young QBs. Young QBs that look like franchise QBs because they are afforded the time to do so. Instead the Jets spend premium picks on defense every single year, and do it poorly, mind you. We've ran a 3-4 for TWELVE years, never had an elite edge rusher, and spent one first rounder in trying to get one. That's one first rounder out of 15, only four of which were spent on offense. They take fliers and draft projects at skill positions and the offensive line and are almost completely dependent on free agency to be competitive because these projects rarely pan out. Of those four offensive draft picks (none of which have come this decade), two were Brick and Mangold, a pair of decade long starters on the oline and the foundation of this team the last time it was worth a sh*t. Those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. The Jets never, ever learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, Dcronin said: Watch any game from last year. We need DBs! Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app DB's sucked but lack of pass rush was the bigger issue. Also, if your supposedly fixing the secondary why not draft DB's who are actually good at covering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, flgreen said: Decent draft IMO. Hate the Maye pick, but that's a 2nd rounder, they don't really count for the Jets Lol Change that pick to a TE or RB and this draft is very solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 We should have taken tyron smith at #6 guys Dummies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 21 minutes ago, The Troll said: Four defensive backs drafted this year, including in the first two rounds. Four offensive linemen drafted in the last FIVE YEARS, none higher than the fourth round. 1 minute ago, The Troll said: Dallas and Tennessee should be the blueprints of how to build a team right now. They both sunk a ton of draft capital into the offensive line and as a result, they have elite running games that take the pressure off their young QBs. Young QBs that look like franchise QBs because they are afforded the time to do so. Instead the Jets spend premium picks on defense every single year, and do it poorly, mind you. We've ran a 3-4 for TWELVE years, never had an elite edge rusher, and spent one first rounder in trying to get one. That's one first rounder out of 15, only four of which were spent on offense. They take fliers and draft projects at skill positions and the offensive line and are almost completely dependent on free agency to he competitive because these projects rarely pan out. Of those four offensive draft picks (none of which have come this decade), two were Brick and Mangold, a pair of decade long starters on the oline and the foundation of this team the last time it was worth a sh*t. Those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. The Jets never, ever learn. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk This was not a good year for offensive lineman. I would've been happy with Cam in round 2 but he didn't drop - it is what it is. Broadly, I agree with you and I love how Dallas, Oakland and Tennessee have rebuilt their offensive lines and found success. That just wasn't this draft. This draft was deep with defensive back talent, and we acted accordingly. If you're making a broader point, I agree, if you're responding to this draft, than it think you're wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OH THE PAIN Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 18 minutes ago, Lizard King said: What was wrong with drafting Freeman McNeil ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted April 29, 2017 Author Share Posted April 29, 2017 This was not a good year for offensive lineman. I would've been happy with Cam in round 2 but he didn't drop - it is what it is. Broadly, I agree with you and I love how Dallas, Oakland and Tennessee have rebuilt their offensive lines and found success. That just wasn't this draft. This draft was deep with defensive back talent, and we acted accordingly. If you're making a broader point, I agree, if you're responding to this draft, than it think you're wrong. You are correct. I'm referring to the Jets philosophy in general over the last decade. People that think I'm just referring to this draft are missing the point that this is what the Jets do every draft, regardless of where the talent lies in the class. Like taking Calvin Pryor in the best receiver class ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 We have built 4-5 very solid defenses from Herm to Bowles and completely ignored offense in the process and it's gotten us nowhere. And here we are doing it again.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, Snell41 said: We have built 4-5 very solid defenses from Herm to Bowles and completely ignored offense in the process and it's gotten us nowhere. And here we are doing it again. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app The scary thing is Bowles is clueless about defense. For all of Rex and Mangini's flaws they were both good at evaluating defensive players in certain aspects (Rex with DL, Mangini with DB's) Bowles is clueless. He thought Richardson could play OLB and let Revis play man to man with Sammy Watkins with our season on the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, The Troll said: You are correct. I'm referring to the Jets philosophy in general over the last decade. People that think I'm just referring to this draft are missing the point that this is what the Jets do every draft, regardless of where the talent lies in the class. Like taking Calvin Pryor in the best receiver class ever. This is going to be worse than Pryor and look at what we passed on for Pryor: Cooks Carr benjamin Clinton-Dix Bridgewater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 33 minutes ago, thadude said: Worst draft since 2010 and that's saying something Best draft in over a decade, based on talent not positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Jetlife33 said: Best draft in over a decade, based on talent not positions. Lolz your funny Let me know when our second round pick learns to cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted April 29, 2017 Author Share Posted April 29, 2017 This is going to be worse than Pryor and look at what we passed on for Pryor: Cooks Carr benjamin Clinton-Dix Bridgewater It's cool, we didn't need a WR. We had Greg Salas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 21 minutes ago, flgreen said: Decent draft IMO. Hate the Maye pick, but that's a 2nd rounder, they don't really count for the Jets It's 10 years since we've had a second rounder contribute..... how fukking sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, thadude said: Lolz your funny Let me know when our second round pick learns to cover I guess you've loved the talent we've gotten in the past decade through the draft lol get over the position of the 2nd round pick and look at the pure talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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