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20 hours ago, Warfish said:

Facts are not misleading. Your understanding of them may be where the flaw lies.

But by all means, keep ranting about the one aspect of this franchise there is 0% chance of changing. Catharsis, no matter how ignorant and misguided, is good for the soul. 

Or so I hear.

My post was coherent, logical, on point, and devoid of anything that any fair minded person not beholden to their own agenda would call ranting.

Since you chose to engage in a personal attack, you indicate you have nothing of value to say on the subject. Other than asserting that Woody's ownership, or more to the point his approach to managing the Jets, is immutable. 

Someday in fact Woody Johnson will no longer own the Jets.  Maybe then they will go to an SB.

 

Have a nice day.

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7 hours ago, Big Blocker said:

My post was coherent, logical, on point, and devoid of anything that any fair minded person not beholden to their own agenda would call ranting.

Since you chose to engage in a personal attack, you indicate you have nothing of value to say on the subject. Other than asserting that Woody's ownership, or more to the point his approach to managing the Jets, is immutable. 

Someday in fact Woody Johnson will no longer own the Jets.  Maybe then they will go to an SB.

 

Have a nice day.

Cool story bro.

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7 hours ago, Big Blocker said:

My post was coherent, logical, on point, and devoid of anything that any fair minded person not beholden to their own agenda would call ranting.

Since you chose to engage in a personal attack, you indicate you have nothing of value to say on the subject. Other than asserting that Woody's ownership, or more to the point his approach to managing the Jets, is immutable. 

Someday in fact Woody Johnson will no longer own the Jets.  Maybe then they will go to an SB.

 

Have a nice day.

I agree with you....   the numbers don't lie.  No playoffs since 2010, no decent drafts since 2007, several coaches, GMs, more QBs than we can count, one season with more than 10 wins....    and while I haven't checked, I'm sure an overall losing record.

we are amongst the worst 3 teams in the NFL and people want to defend Woody?  mind boggling. 

the way we cowed down to Revis, FITZ, Holmes,  gave Sanchez that big contract etc.

Management is the problem here.....

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On 6/14/2017 at 11:58 AM, BleedinGreenNC said:

 


They quit on the team then they quit on everything Jets related, simple as that.

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The guy plainly states he is no longer supporting the team financially. Whats wrong with that? He refuses to continue paying for an inferior product. He states plainly he will support them emotionally meaning he will still root for them. Whats the problem?

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The guy plainly states he is no longer supporting the team financially. Whats wrong with that? He refuses to continue paying for an inferior product. He states plainly he will support them emotionally meaning he will still root for them. Whats the problem?


He is a quitter, that's the problem.
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30 minutes ago, BleedinGreenNC said:

 


He is a quitter, that's the problem.
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WTF does that mean? You can't support the Jets unless you spend money on them? That's just ridiculous.

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On ‎6‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 6:12 PM, JetFaninMI said:

I feel your pain bro. We had season tix since the last days at Shea and all through the Meadowlands days. Over twenty years. Moved to Michigan for my job and the PSL's put an end to the rest. I still go to Jet games on the road and whenever I can at home. I will be trying to go to the Jets-Browns in Oct. since they will be pretty close and since both teams will truly suck tix will be easy to come by. I will wait and get the lowest possible price as usual because of how bad the product will be. I always try to sit in the Dawg Pound in Cleveland because its an awesome time and they commiserate with us Jet Fans as we have a lot in common. Years of sucktitude and angst. #1 bowl here I come.

I will throw you a bone. Good luck in Cleveland

while we SUCK4SAM.

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On 6/16/2017 at 8:10 PM, JetFaninMI said:

WTF does that mean? You can't support the Jets unless you spend money on them? That's just ridiculous.

Where did i say that you cant support them unless you spend money on them? Dont make sh*t up sally. And the thread name is Parting after 29 years, maybe all you crybabies should go root for the Pats.

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On ‎6‎/‎14‎/‎2017 at 8:28 PM, southparkcpa said:

A  Few playoff runs on fumes.... but here we are.... one of the worst 3 teams in the NFL.

absent 2009 and 2010 we are nothing.  No one in this country respects the NY Jets. No one.

 

we stink right now, we stunk before Woody but we had the longest consistent stretch of good football in franchise history under him.

 

mistakes were made starting w/ firing Tannenbaum, Woody is learning from his mistakes.

 

aren't you the guy who always complains when I say outside of the 2 lucky runs for the Giants they haven't done much then you are going to use that to bash the Jets?  you sure you are a Jet fan?

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On ‎6‎/‎15‎/‎2017 at 9:15 AM, Big Blocker said:

Those numbers are misleading since he took over a team that had just gone to the Champ game the year before, and was a favorite to go to the SB before Vinny was lost for the season, and still went 8-8 with a Qb search that lasted half the season.  Curtis Martin, one of the best Jets ever, was great for his first seven seasons.  In short the Jets were one of the best teams in the league when Woody bought them, and while it has been some ups with the downs ever since, the overall trend has beyond dispute been down.  Down to where the team is today.

Johnson knows less about football than the average poster here, yet management of the team runs through him.  Several disastrous decisions were either his by commission or omission, and there's no need to repeat them here.  Management openings have increasingly been filled with people with no track record of success since those who have that do not want to work for the Jets.

18 years, and the Jets are what they are today.  Which is the opposite of competitive.  The common factor throughout?  Woody Johnson.

The franchise he took over was cap strapped, lost parcells, had an old injured QB, traded away best offensive player(who was still young), had made the playoffs just ONE time in previous 8 seasons and just twice in previous 13 seasons AND no coach wanted to coach them as they lost BP, BB and Groh all w/in the span of a year YET we won a rare div ttile in ’02, made the playoffs in ’01, 02, ’04, ’06, ‘09 ’10 and from 2002-2010 won 6 playoff games while in the rest of our history we won a total of 6 playoff wins.

 

I wish I could say I was surprised but it’s not shocking you would post such misinformed nonsense on here.

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1 hour ago, nyjunc said:

we stink right now, we stunk before Woody but we had the longest consistent stretch of good football in franchise history under him.

 

mistakes were made starting w/ firing Tannenbaum, Woody is learning from his mistakes.

 

aren't you the guy who always complains when I say outside of the 2 lucky runs for the Giants they haven't done much then you are going to use that to bash the Jets?  you sure you are a Jet fan?

Tanny was a shilty GM.   There is no evidence he drafted well  His drafts were driven by the HC .  The 2007 draft was a Mangini draft.  He is as dumb as Rex when it comes to evaluating talent. He blew our budget on Mark, Holmes, let Cotch walk, Favre walk etc.  He has NO balls. Please...absent a 2 year run, Tanny has been nothing to brag about.

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Little late to the party,  but why is fandom associated with season ticket holdings?  

I don't live in NY, so obviously it makes no sense for me to get season tickets, but you buy the tickets for the experience, the camaraderie, and friendships.  You sure as heck don't do it for the viewing the games up close and personal, where you can't even see if it's a first down or not, or if the person trapped the ball or caught it.  More times than not, you live the game through replays on big screens.  In this day and age, with HD TVs, and the ability to rewind and fast forward the game, there is absolutely no reason to go to the games, if your terminal goal is to watch the game with as much information as possible.  It made sense in earlier years with grainy TVs and horrible TV angles to attend games to actually see what happened.  One of the biggest benefits was the ability to tell what happened, when the camera were away from the play.  Say, WR 2 was wide open down the field, when the QB checked down to a RB for a 2 yard pass.  Back in the day, that sort of information was gleaned from being there, instead of TV angles.  Now you have coach's tape to break down all the plays over and over again.  Or if some idiot did something stupid at the game, you were there as well.  Now with smartphones, and social media, anything remotely controversial happens, and you find out in seconds.  

I think the main issue isn't the Jets, it's the realization that you don't gain much from going to games as you did in the past.  It's a bad investment if your only goal is to watch a successful franchise.  It's true for every single sports team, because you get more information sitting at home than you can possibly get at the game.  The biggest reason people go is because they can share the moment with others that they care, or like minded people.  

It's the same with anything throughout history.  When horse buggies were a thing, people loved it, until the train came along.  Then the investment in feeding the horse, dealing with poop, and injuries weren't worth it.  Train rides were great until cars were improved, then the lack of freedom and congestion weren't worth it.  Then when planes came along, having to deal with traffic and confined roads were a problem.  With sports, being at the game was the best way to experience the game (much like horse buggies were the best way to travel at one point) but there are better options now, that won't cost nearly as much money.  I think you would feel the same exact way if the Jets were winning, but peer pressure to keep the tickets because it's a status symbol (as you probably have seen in LA) would prevent your dad from giving up those tickets.  It was a bad investment in the first place because the return on investment was doomed with advances in technology and social media.

It makes sense for your dad to give up these tickets because his next of kin are across the country as you mentioned.  It's no longer an experience to be there because family isn't around.  

As for the Woody Johnson argument, the team's success depends heavily on QB.  When Vinny was good, we did well.  When, Chad was good, we did well.  When Favre was healthy, we did well.  When Sanchez was a game manager, we did well.  It's not a coincidence that good QB play leads to good results, because the league is predicated on QB play at this point.  Johnson was fine with picking up Chad Pennington (the top QB prospect in that draft at the time I believe), but no one saw how good Tom Brady would be.  We then went out and got Favre, and he had us in playoff contention until he got hurt.  Then we invested a top pick in Sanchez, who a lot of people loved as well.  Have we hit on those picks?  Nope.  What the team actually needs is patience, so they can try and get the right QB.  Either you develop it or you tank when a great class comes along.  Unfortunately, in this market everything has to be ready from Day 1 or people revolt as if they could do a better job without hindsight (The Idzik draft is the one exception here, anyone could have done better there).  

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53 minutes ago, southparkcpa said:

Tanny was a shilty GM.   There is no evidence he drafted well  His drafts were driven by the HC .  The 2007 draft was a Mangini draft.  He is as dumb as Rex when it comes to evaluating talent. He blew our budget on Mark, Holmes, let Cotch walk, Favre walk etc.  He has NO balls. Please...absent a 2 year run, Tanny has been nothing to brag about.

So Mangini drafted Gholston?  And why isn’t this genius evaluator of talent in a front office somewhere?  Tannanebaum has rebuilt a 2nd team into a playoff team(an awful franchise in Miami) while Mangini never came close to be a playoff coach w/o Tannenbaum.  He went for it, we fell short and had to retool.  Instead of allowing him to do it we fired him and hired Idzik which set the franchise back at least 5 years.

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On 6/12/2017 at 5:54 PM, southtown24th said:

We have had season tickets since 1988--went with my Dad, brother and Uncle all throughout the 90s (in my youth), enjoyed the "runs" of 1998 and the 2000s and my last great memory of the Jets was being at the AFC Championship Game in Pittsburgh with my Dad in 2010...and we all know how that ended...in TRUE JETS FASHION...

My brother moved to LA in 2006, I moved to LA in 2013 and my Dad held on for the past 4 years piecing it together...last season he could not GIVE THE TICKETS AWAY when he could not attend--no friends would join him FOR FREE because of the product on the field--and he was just taking a financial beating year in and year out on the tickets, the preseason games and with little to no success on the field to speak of, my Dad getting older (pushing 70), it was time for our family to move on...I have no regrets or reservations about the decision.  My brother in law (sister married a Die Hard Jets fan in December) did not even want the tickets or show any interest in taking on the STH despite being an avid Jets fan and avid sports fanatic...that told us everything we needed to know about the value of these seats at this point in the game.

This franchise will always be my #1 and have the top spot in my heart and mind when it comes to sports fanhood...with that being said, they make it so ******* hard to hang on year in and year out through all of the HORRIBLE, DESPICABLE, DISGUSTING seasons where the product on the field is absolutely putrid.  As a result, my Dad will have to eat the $8,000.00 PSL fee he shelled out how ever many years ago...but it's best for him and us to cut bait now.   

Woody Johnson destroyed what little respectability this franchise had and there is no sign or harbinger of him parting ways with this organization any time soon.  We are the Cleveland Browns--maybe one step above, but that's it.  

There comes a crossroad in everyone's life (especially when your next of kin live across the country) when a tough decision has to be made and this was the best decision for my family.  We are not looking back or second guessing any part of it...it's the right time to walk away from this franchise financially...we will not be walking away emotionally but, these sunny Southern CA Fall/Winter Sundays significantly decrease the emotional attachment as the days go on... 

 

Good riddance.

You know, until Kraft bought the Patriots, the team had some minor success. They were the best team in the AFC, but got shafted by Ref Ben Dreith with the worst call in NFL history. 12/18/76. The Phantom Roughing the Passer Call versus the Raiders. The "Tuck Rule" can't hold a candle to Ben Dreith's call. 

Things start with the owner. NE was better than the Packers in the 1997 SB, but Parcels was so deep into the Jets' HC job that NE wasn't prepared. He wasn't engaged for that game because he was thinking about the next year! 

The Jets made some nice moves this offseason by dumping their overpriced and under performing. They also dumped the locker room cancer. The best move of the offseason was the pick they didn't make. They didn't take any of the QBs at #6. Sanchize is head and shoulders above this year's bums. The Jets won't be successful until Woody is gone. 

 

 

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On 6/19/2017 at 10:27 AM, BleedinGreenNC said:

Where did i say that you cant support them unless you spend money on them? Dont make sh*t up sally. And the thread name is Parting after 29 years, maybe all you crybabies should go root for the Pats.

LOL. Are you a moron? You have been spouting nonsense about a guy who remains a Jet Fan but gave up his season tickets. You called him a quitter BECAUSE he gave up his tix after 29 seasons. Read what you are posting about Nancy before you comment on it. LOL. What a clown.

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