JOJOTOWNSELL Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000818303/article/what-we-learned-about-darnold-top-prospects-at-the-opening?campaign=tw-cf-sf95555414-sf95555414&sf95555414=1 Daniel Jeremiah of the NFL Network reports that "several sources close to" USC redshirt sophomore QB Sam Darnold say he may plays two more seasons for the Trojans. Darnold is a redshirt sophomore who can declare for the draft as early as 2018 (or enter it as late as 2020). Most assume that Darnold, the consensus No. 1 overall prospect in the 2018 class, will declare after the season, but as this report suggests, those assumptions are premature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 if he is as good as people think he's a lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I think it's just posture, there is no benefit in saying he won't come back now because he can't leave now. The fans will love him more now with how he's "committed" to USC, and then at the end of the year, he will have a tearful goodbye to chase his dreams or what not. What's more interesting is that, he's changing his throwing motion apparently. I'd like to see how it changes his release time and velocity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Yeah, no sh*t. Ya dont say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 He'd be a fool to stay in school another year and risk injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbt Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 jets are not a lock for the 1st pick (very close though) so maybe we get lucky either way (get 1st pick and he comes out or don't get 1st pick and he stays). (i was laughing as I wrote "maybe we get lucky") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 It says the sources "Wouldn't be surprised" if he stayed. And they probably wouldn't be surprised if he left. Training camp here yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, jetscrazey said: He'd be a fool to stay in school another year and risk injury He probably taking less to play in the NFL , than he makes at USC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 If he's the consensus #1 pick at the end of the season I'd be pretty surprised if he didn't come out. The last guy to pull that move was Leinart who showed everyone why you don't do that -- he dropped like 10 slots in the draft and cost himself millions of dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 If he has an off season, he might say, if he's still the consensus #1 pick, he'd be an idiot to stay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 this would be our luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, flgreen said: If he has an off season, he might say, if he's still the consensus #1 pick, he'd be an idiot to stay Yes that's the thing, this is just Darnold, and his camp putting out this info to protect him in case he has a bad year, injury plaqued year, and he needs to come back to school to show the NFL more, and not look bad if he decides to stay another year to make sure he is consensus #1 in a weaker draft class. If he shines again this season, and is considered consensus #1 overall no way he doesn't declare IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 This is why it's smart to intentionally start tanking a season in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Woody Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Everyone above pretty much nailed it. If he's a consensus #1 overall, he's entering. He'd be an idiot not to. If he has a down year, and his stock drops significantly, he might stay. But any prospect good enough to be taken in the 1st round should enter the NFL as early as possible. If you want to maximize your earning potential, you want to be able to hit your 2nd contract before age 27 if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: This is why it's smart to intentionally start tanking a season in April. Right, it's far more important to bring in vets to get that win total up to 7 games (instead of the 3 or 4 we are projected to win) to make some season ticket holders happy. Meanwhile, there are bunch of QB prospects in this coming draft. Darnold is the one I am in love with, but guys like Allen/Rosen etc could emerge as elite QB prospects. Could you imagine winning 7 games and finding out that this years QB class is like the one that netted Rivers/Eli/Ben. What would you say then? "Um, but we tried hard and got that important 7th win in week 17 to make me feel better!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Just now, JoJoTownsell1 said: Right, it's far more important to bring in vets to get that win total up to 7 games (instead of the 3 or 4 we are projected to win) to make some season ticket holders happy. Meanwhile, there are bunch of QB prospects in this coming draft. Darnold is the one I am in love with, but guys like Allen/Rosen etc could emerge as elite QB prospects. Could you imagine winning 7 games and finding out that this years QB class is like the one that netted Rivers/Eli/Ben. What would you say then? "Um, but we tried hard and got that important 7th win in week 17 to make me feel better!" Preposterous. I never use exclamation points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Ok. Who's the Dick that told him we might have the first overall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Can ya blame the guy? If you were staring at a great NFL career and you had the Jets waiting to take ya with the #1 pick, you'd stay in college too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Right, it's far more important to bring in vets to get that win total up to 7 games (instead of the 3 or 4 we are projected to win) to make some season ticket holders happy. Meanwhile, there are bunch of QB prospects in this coming draft. Darnold is the one I am in love with, but guys like Allen/Rosen etc could emerge as elite QB prospects. Could you imagine winning 7 games and finding out that this years QB class is like the one that netted Rivers/Eli/Ben. What would you say then? "Um, but we tried hard and got that important 7th win in week 17 to make me feel better!" Well to the credit if the 2004 draft class, the best QB went to a team that won 6 games the year before 11th overall. And the Bills won 7 games last season, and picked 10th, and funny enough traded it away so a team can get IMO the next big thing at the QB position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Just now, Mike135 said: Can ya blame the guy. If you were staring at a great NFL career and you had the Jets waiting to take ya with the #1 pick, you'd stay in college too. In all seriousness if your a potential next big thing at QB the NY market is the best place to go to maximize your earning potential away from the football field, but nah go back to school so you can go to Buffalo, Cleveland, or maybe Jacksonville, or Minnesota come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 13 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Ok. Who's the Dick that told him we might have the first overall? MARK SANCHEZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Darnold isn't a lock to leave College. Darnold isn't a lock to have another good year at College. Darnold isn't a lock to be a number 1 pick once he does declare for the draft. Darnold is not a lock to be a franchise Quarterback. Darnold is not a lock to be a New York Jet. Don't worry about Darnold. Don't put ANY hope in Darnold. Just... focus on what we already have on the team and let it all play out. You'll live life A LOT happier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: In all seriousness if your a potential next big thing at QB the NY market is the best place to go to maximize your earning potential away from the football field, but nah go back to school so you can go to Buffalo, Cleveland, or maybe Jacksonville, or Minnesota come on. I was joking. Mostly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: In all seriousness if your a potential next big thing at QB the NY market is the best place to go to maximize your earning potential away from the football field, but nah go back to school so you can go to Buffalo, Cleveland, or maybe Jacksonville, or Minnesota come on. Peyton Manning played in a third world sh*thole for twenty years and is the highest earning NFL player in the history of the sport. Tom Brady plays in the part of Massachusetts that's so poor they can't even afford opioid addictions. Playing the NY hasn't been marketable since the internet was invented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 12 minutes ago, Tony MaC said: Darnold isn't a lock to leave College. Darnold isn't a lock to have another good year at College. Darnold isn't a lock to be a number 1 pick once he does declare for the draft. Darnold is not a lock to be a franchise Quarterback. Darnold is not a lock to be a New York Jet. Don't worry about Darnold. Don't put ANY hope in Darnold. Just... focus on what we already have on the team and let it all play out. You'll live life A LOT happier. Those last two lines do NOT go together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Peyton Manning played in a third world sh*thole for twenty years and is the highest earning NFL player in the history of the sport. Tom Brady plays in the part of Massachusetts that's so poor they can't even afford opioid addictions. Playing the NY hasn't been marketable since the internet was invented. Yeah because Tiki Barber, Jason Seahorn, and Strahan didn't benefit from playing in NY. Peyton is a unusual guy, and Brady is widely viewed as the GOAT. Darnold actually strikes me as a guy who would value the coaching situation over which market he plays in, so if your the Jets, and you hear this to be true you give Harbaugh a blank check, and 5% of the franchise to get the kid to come out, and get drafted by the Jets lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Those last two lines do NOT go together. I just find it such a waste of time to focus on this guy and the QB's going into this season. We're placing ALL of our expectations on this kid and the other two, and thus setting ourselves up for disappointment if for whatever reason we don't get them or they don't pan out. Hoping for a one true savior is useless. I prefer to focus on the whole. Its gonna be a LOT easier to watch the season not hoping for ONE thing to save my favorite team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Yeah because Tiki Barber, Jason Seahorn, and Strahan didn't benefit from playing in NY. Peyton is a unusual guy, and Brady is widely viewed as the GOAT. Darnold actually strikes me as a guy who would value the coaching situation over which market he plays in, so if your the Jets, and you hear this to be true you give Harbaugh a blank check, and 5% of the franchise to get the kid to come out, and get drafted by the Jets lol. Pretty sure that's called just being a good player. If you're good, you'll benefit no matter where you are. There's zero leverage with coming to NY especially the Jets. If anything, playing in NY is a negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 That would be very Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 46 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Ok. Who's the Dick that told him we might have the first overall? I blame Parcells 44 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Well to the credit if the 2004 draft class, the best QB went to a team that won 6 games the year before 11th overall. And the Bills won 7 games last season, and picked 10th, and funny enough traded it away so a team can get IMO the next big thing at the QB position. Do you remember who picked 12th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Yeah because Tiki Barber, Jason Seahorn, and Strahan didn't benefit from playing in NY. Peyton is a unusual guy, and Brady is widely viewed as the GOAT. Darnold actually strikes me as a guy who would value the coaching situation over which market he plays in, so if your the Jets, and you hear this to be true you give Harbaugh a blank check, and 5% of the franchise to get the kid to come out, and get drafted by the Jets lol. The only thing Sehorn, Tiki, and Strahan got out of playing in NY was that they each married Gwyneth Paltrow-looking skeezers who ruined their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: I blame Parcells Do you remember who picked 12th? Yes, and the pick would have been the same if that team picked 10th, because of Chad getting a seven years $64.2 million extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Somebody must have mentioned it already... Matt Barkley stayed. How'd that work out for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokiejetfan92 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, RoadFan said: Somebody must have mentioned it already... Matt Barkley stayed. How'd that work out for him? It worked out for Luck. Anyways i thought Darnold wasn't even the consensus best quarterback. Aren't there supposed to be 2 other qbs that some believe have more talent than Sam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Just now, Lupz27 said: Yes, and the pick would have been the same if that team picked 10th, because of Chad getting a seven years $64.2 million extension. On the bright side, like the Martin contract, as the numbers go up over time they seem less shocking and painful than they actually were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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