joewilly12 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Jets' owner wants private helipad, rather than land at airport 2 miles away Updated on July 10, 2017 at 9:21 AMPosted on July 10, 2017 at 8:29 AM The NY Jets want to land helicopters at the team's training center in Florham Park, to fly executives and injured players out of the complex. (Pixabay | stock photo) BY TED SHERMAN tsherman@njadvancemedia.com, NJ Advance Media for NJ.com FLORHAM PARK--The New York Jets training center is a two-minute drive to nearby Morristown Airport. Apparently that is too far away when Jets executives want to fly in. The NFL team is seeking state approval to build a private helipad at the football practice facility in Florham Park. But the neighbors are no fans of the plan, with local residents already beginning a petition drive to keep the Jets grounded. In an application with the state Bureau of Aeronautics filed in March, the Jets proposed the construction of a restricted-use concrete helicopter landing pad, or helistop, "for transport of executives of the training center and injured athletes." The filing by Florham Park Development LLC, which is associated with the Atlantic Health Jets Training Center, said in its filing that the helipad would not be open for public use, but would be equipped for day and night operations, with landings expected several times during the week during the summer months. Jets owner nominated as UK ambassador It took quite some time, but Donald Trump has officially named Woody Johnson the U.S. Ambassador to the United Kingdom. The request mirrors an earlier application before the Florham Park planning board in 2013 that had been put on hold amid community opposition over concerns about the noise from low-flying helicopters and the possibility of an accident. This time, though, consultants for the team argue that the training center is exempt from all local zoning and approvals because the property is owned by the N.J. Sports and Exposition Authority, a state agency, according to the filing. A Jets spokesperson declined comment. Meanwhile, the nearby borough of Madison, which had opposed the earlier application, has lodged new objections to the Jets' request in a separate filing with the state. Madison officials also declined comment, but said in their response that the granting of a license would be contrary to local land use ordinances and the sentiments of residents. Noting the close proximity of Morristown Airport, they questioned the need for a landing facility. The Atlantic Health Jets Training Facility in Florham Park. (Jerry McCrea | Star-Ledger file photo) "There is clearly no demand for the proposed helistop from an air operational standpoint, and any purported public benefit from the availability of a helistop for emergency uses is illusive," they wrote to the state. "Who would be using the helistop is also an ambiguous unknown." The borough added that the proposed operations were a safety risk. In March, a helicopter heading to Lincoln Park made a forced landingin the parking lot of a Chatham apartment complex after losing power, striking the roof of a garage before coming to a rest upright. Nobody was killed, but a passenger was seriously injured. A helistop requires authorization and licensing by the state Department of Transportation, according to a department spokesman, and includes a 30-day public comment period. "The comment period for the NY Jets helistop closed on July 3," said spokesman Steve Schapiro, who added that the department was in the process of reviewing the comments. "The department evaluates the application taking into consideration safety, proposed use of the facility, surrounding land use and economic factors before making a decision on whether to authorize and license a helistop," he said. Ted Sherman may be reached at tsherman@njadvancemedia.com. Follow him on Twitter @TedShermanSL. Facebook: @TedSherman.reporter. Find NJ.com on Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 No idea if it is related, but J&J has used helicopters pretty extensively at their HQ in New Brunswick for ages. They were disrupting classes on George Street since the mid-80's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetworks Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Namath used to fly in by helicopter to Quinnipiac from Broadway where he was performing to visit the campers at his and Dockery's football camp. I know, because I was there. Not sure why this is even a story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jetworks said: Not sure why this is even a story? Off season bro. Can't be putting up ASJ stories every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, j4jets said: Off season bro. Can't be putting up ASJ stories every day. he is 30 lbs ligher though!!! and rededicated!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKnight83 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Part of the problem with Morristown Airport is it is only open from 06:45 to 22:30. We use to fly in for games from Michigan all the time. Only about half the time could be land there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 2 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: No idea if it is related, but J&J has used helicopters pretty extensively at their HQ in New Brunswick for ages. They were disrupting classes on George Street since the mid-80's. Really? I went to Rutgers and lived on George St I don't recall that happening. They have a facility located on George Street but it's huge and could accommodate a heliport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 So who is the dumber trust fund baby? Woody or Chrissy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Jetworks said: Namath used to fly in by helicopter to Quinnipiac from Broadway where he was performing to visit the campers at his and Dockery's football camp. I know, because I was there. Not sure why this is even a story? My guess is we have enough air traffic around here already medevacs fly to and land on MMH with patients they have been trying to get the same for Overlook Hospital over by me and fat boys old house but the town swats it down. So if people round here don't want potential lives to be saved they sure don't care about making up 2 miles for Dopey inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 50 minutes ago, thadude said: Really? I went to Rutgers and lived on George St I don't recall that happening. They have a facility located on George Street but it's huge and could accommodate a heliport Yeah, really. The pad was right past the fence on the left of the building facing it from George Street. Disrupted the same class multiple times. That may have been the only class I had that far down George Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 1 hour ago, GKnight83 said: Part of the problem with Morristown Airport is it is only open from 06:45 to 22:30. We use to fly in for games from Michigan all the time. Only about half the time could be land there. Obviously, the logical decision is not working the airport to accommodate personal use, but to make a new helipad in an urban area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Obviously, the logical decision is not working the airport to accommodate personal use, but to make a new helipad in an urban area. Maybe we could tell Chris and Woody we devised a teleportation system and then put them in a room that looks like it's in Florham Park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 If I had Woody's money, I'd be able to access every mode of transportation known to man just a short zipline ride away from my bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 2 hours ago, GKnight83 said: Part of the problem with Morristown Airport is it is only open from 06:45 to 22:30. We use to fly in for games from Michigan all the time. Only about half the time could be land there. Fly in for what games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Morristown airport is really close by. This seems excessive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Where is the nearest level 1 Trauma Center? If its more than a 15 minute drive from a Target Hazard like Met Life, then I don't see an issue. Its actually not a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Where is the nearest level 1 Trauma Center? If its more than a 15 minute drive from a Target Hazard like Met Life, then I don't see an issue. Its actually not a bad idea. Morristown Medical Center. And I think it would take longer to fly there, since it is like 3 miles from the Jets facility in Florham Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 8 hours ago, GKnight83 said: Part of the problem with Morristown Airport is it is only open from 06:45 to 22:30. We use to fly in for games from Michigan all the time. Only about half the time could be land there. How so? Like whos flying and what kind of plane? A cessna? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 2 hours ago, thadude said: Really? I went to Rutgers and lived on George St I don't recall that happening. They have a facility located on George Street but it's huge and could accommodate a heliport When were you there? I was 91-95, and don't remember that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Whatz the big deal. Pour a concrete pad. A helicopter every few days is no big deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 39 minutes ago, Maxman said: Morristown Medical Center. And I think it would take longer to fly there, since it is like 3 miles from the Jets facility in Florham Park. Morristown is a Level II. Only 3 level One Trauma Centers in NJ, New Jersey Trauma Centers (in alphabetical order) Level I Trauma Centers Cooper Hospital/University Medical Center, Camden Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital, New Brunswick UMDNJ-University Hospital, Newark Those would have an Interventional Neurologist or Neurosurgeon, Orthopedic Surgeon, and maxillofacial Surgeons available in hospital on duty, instead of on call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 28 minutes ago, chirorob said: When were you there? I was 91-95, and don't remember that either. '99-'03 I lived in the river dorms which were on George St and most of my classes were by George St. The J&J building is right there but has its own huge campus I don't see how landing a helicopter inside their own campus helipad would interfere with anything outside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Just now, Jet_Engine1 said: Morristown is a Level II. Only 3 level One Trauma Centers in NJ, New Jersey Trauma Centers (in alphabetical order) Level I Trauma Centers Cooper Hospital/University Medical Center, Camden Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital, New Brunswick UMDNJ-University Hospital, Newark Those would have an Interventional Neurologist on duty, instead of on call. Newark and Camden need them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 43 minutes ago, Maxman said: Morristown airport is really close by. This seems excessive. He could also fly first class to Newark but then he'd be by us little people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, thadude said: Newark and Camden need them Gunshots and Stabbings are bread and butter for Trauma Centers. Its the Neuro stuff that separates the good ones from average. And MVCs can happen anywhere....and a bad Spinal or Head Injury in a football game would necessitate transport to a Level 1, not to mention the 90,000 people at the stadium who can get into all sorts of trouble. LOL. Thank God MetLife got rid of all the old drunk guys.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 you know what, if I had the cash, I would want to avoid sitting in a$$Hole texting traffic at all costs if I could avoid it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 If I had Woody's money, I'd be able to access every mode of transportation known to man just a short zipline ride away from my bed. Exactly the kind of thought that creates failure, just like his jets.Sent from my LG-TP450 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 2 hours ago, thadude said: '99-'03 I lived in the river dorms which were on George St and most of my classes were by George St. The J&J building is right there but has its own huge campus I don't see how landing a helicopter inside their own campus helipad would interfere with anything outside Yup. I was in River Dorm 93-94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Who cares? Its not like they are going to be landing there 3-4 times a day. I admit it may be a little excessive but really is this such a big deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 The title says "2 miles," the article says "2 minutes," which one is it? I'd like this cleared up before forming an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flushing Roots Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 How can I express how little I give a sh*t? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Good for him. Money has it's privileges. That's why people pursue it and create value to society in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 5 hours ago, jgb said: Good for him. Money has it's privileges. That's why people pursue it and create value to society in the process. Exactly, it is in a privileged area otherwise it wouldn't be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Meanwhile 785 million helicopters head out to the Hamptons every summer weekend, nobody cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 21 minutes ago, Larz said: Meanwhile 785 million helicopters head out to the Hamptons every summer weekend, nobody cares Second homes, vacay etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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