Jet Nut Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 22 hours ago, thadude said: Hack sucked at Penn State once he lost Allen Robinson -- what are people seeing here? Yeah, thats what it was. It wasnt going from the change at HC, going from the Pats pro offense, which he mastered as an 18 year old and changing to a spread offense which he wasnt suited to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 37 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: So you're relying on hack being the exception? 1 guy in a generation that had poor college accuracy who ended up being a good NFL QB compared to countless number of college QBs with poor accuracy who didn't make it. Then excepting the other starting QBs who are solid starting QBs who have good numbers. The lunacy that because one guy did it that Hack *is* going to do it is absurd. In addition, it's more like 99.9% of college QBs with two bad seasons don't end up as solid NFL starting QBs. Think hes addressing the lunacy that says if you put up Favre or Hack numbers in college there is no chance of changing things when you get to the NFL and are coached to your strengths. Thats the lunacy that comes from the mouths of SOJFs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 22 hours ago, thadude said: Hack sucked at Penn State once he lost Allen Robinson -- what are people seeing here? That's about as relevant as saying Mark Sanchez sucked once he lost Jerico Cotchery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 21 hours ago, thadude said: No it's based on reality. Hack was not good in college and has given jets fans 0.0 to think he is this unpolished gem LOL he's also 0.0 to think he's a bust. Guy hasn't taken an NFL snap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, flgreen said: LOL he's also 0.0 to think he's a bust. Guy hasn't taken an NFL snap When youre tha (?) "dude" that qulaifies as reality though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 the fact that Hackenberg is still behind Josh McCown says it all. If he can't beat out McCown he doesn't deserve to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 1 hour ago, bitonti said: the fact that Hackenberg is still behind Josh McCown says it all. If he can't beat out McCown he doesn't deserve to play Do you believe Fitz was the best QB on the team last year - If you don't your argument holds no water . We've seen over the years with our stellar HC's that depth charts and skill levels are like apples and oranges. The fact that McCown may be ahead of the other QB's in a pre season depth chart tells us absolutely nothing about their respective skill or talent levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 1 hour ago, bitonti said: the fact that Hackenberg is still behind Josh McCown says it all. If he can't beat out McCown he doesn't deserve to play Yeah, even though the HC has said he'll announce the starter in the preseason. And no one on the Jets has said that Josh is the starter. Especially since every report was that Hack looked better. But hey, keep making shlt up to prove whatever point we're trying to push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 1 hour ago, bitonti said: the fact that Hackenberg is still behind Josh McCown says it all. If he can't beat out McCown he doesn't deserve to play Hackenberg BLOWS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: Yeah, even though the HC has said he'll announce the starter in the preseason. And no one on the Jets has said that Josh is the starter. Especially since every report was that Hack looked better. But hey, keep making shlt up to prove whatever point we're trying to push. You realize there is this new thing called a depth chart which is updated 365 days per year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 19 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Do you believe Fitz was the best QB on the team last year - If you don't your argument holds no water . We've seen over the years with our stellar HC's that depth charts and skill levels are like apples and oranges. The fact that McCown may be ahead of the other QB's in a pre season depth chart tells us absolutely nothing about their respective skill or talent levels. How does it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, thadude said: You realize there is this new thing called a depth chart which is updated 365 days per year? And that at this point it's often positioned out of respect to a vet over a player who has never taken a snap? Or that a depth chart in June is meaningless? That you don't understand this isn't surprising. BTW, here's the Jets depth chart, good work dude: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: And that at this point it's often positioned out of respect to a vet over a player who has never taken a snap? Or that a depth chart in June is meaningless? That you don't understand this isn't surprising. Yeah I know more personal insults. Hackenberg has given Jets fans NOTHING to think he's going to suddenly be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 On 7/21/2017 at 5:15 PM, thadude said: Yeah I know more personal insults. Hackenberg has given Jets fans NOTHING to think he's going to suddenly be good. Its a personal insult to talk about how wrong you tend to be? After you talk about the Jets depth chart that doesn't exist to make your point? OK Hackenberg has given no indication that he can't be a success either. Don't be insulted but once again your point is meaningless. You state things as fact based on nothing. I copied and pasted the Jets depth chart, the one i never heard of. Wheres yours showing how right you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Ourlads has Hack behind Petty right now. http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/NYJ Also this is the first time I've look at this in a while and my GOD does our roster suck. Wouldn't be surprised at all if this winds up being a historically bad offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 3 hours ago, thadude said: How does it not? Simple. If you believe Fitz wasn't the best QB last season - it proves Bowles evaluation and adherence to a depth chart was nullified. So the fact that McCown is supposedely atop the depth chart now means nothing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I've said it before and I'll say it again: the day McCown gets named the week 1 starter is going to be the funniest day in the history of this website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 25 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Simple. If you believe Fitz wasn't the best QB last season - it proves Bowles evaluation and adherence to a depth chart was nullified. So the fact that McCown is supposedely atop the depth chart now means nothing . Who was better? Were you in a coma the past few years when Geno played? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, dbatesman said: I've said it before and I'll say it again: the day McCown gets named the week 1 starter is going to be the funniest day in the history of this website. Why? It's what's going to happen, why will it be so funny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 1 minute ago, NoBowles said: Who was better? Were you in a coma the past few years when Geno played? Last year a one armed monkey would have been better than Fitz , try upgrading your TV to hi-def Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 22 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Last year a one armed monkey would have been better than Fitz , try upgrading your TV to hi-def You may be right on this..... BUT, a no armed and no legged monkey would have been better than Geno, so my point stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 6 hours ago, bitonti said: the fact (not a fact) that Hackenberg is still behind Josh McCown says it all (prior to camp even starting, although NO-ONE has said this). If this was actually true and he can't beat out McCown he doesn't deserve to play fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 22 minutes ago, jetspenguin said: fixed Leave them alone. Theres a group of SOJFs who have imagined a depth chart that doesnt exist other than in their minds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 21 minutes ago, jetspenguin said: fixed The fact that we were awful last year, and the team didn't give him a chance to get on the field lets us all know how bad Hack is. Just getting him in there to get a feel of the game would have hurt nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 9 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Think hes addressing the lunacy that says if you put up Favre or Hack numbers in college there is no chance of changing things when you get to the NFL and are coached to your strengths. Thats the lunacy that comes from the mouths of SOJFs not one person is saying there is a zero percent chance. People are saying that is it extremely unlikely. Like it happens once in a generation odds and the people believing that hack is the once in a generation player probably aren't dealing in reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 3 hours ago, 56mehl56 said: Simple. If you believe Fitz wasn't the best QB last season - it proves Bowles evaluation and adherence to a depth chart was nullified. So the fact that McCown is supposedely atop the depth chart now means nothing . You're simply wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 2 hours ago, dbatesman said: I've said it before and I'll say it again: the day McCown gets named the week 1 starter is going to be the funniest day in the history of this website. B-but he was signed to be a "mentor" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 3 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: Ourlads has Hack behind Petty right now. http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/NYJ Also this is the first time I've look at this in a while and my GOD does our roster suck. Wouldn't be surprised at all if this winds up being a historically bad offense. This is going to make the 2005 offense look good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 2 hours ago, 56mehl56 said: Last year a one armed monkey would have been better than Fitz , try upgrading your TV to hi-def A blind monkey missing both arms > Hack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 21 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: not one person is saying there is a zero percent chance. People are saying that is it extremely unlikely. Like it happens once in a generation odds and the people believing that hack is the once in a generation player probably aren't dealing in reality. Start with thadude whos been trolling that message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 3 hours ago, NoBowles said: Why? It's what's going to happen, why will it be so funny? Why is it funny when Moe slaps Curly? Why is it funny when the boulder falls on the coyote? Why is it funny when Larry David gets himself into some mortifying situation? NoBowles, these are the mysteries of our time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Funny how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Fantasy Island said: The fact that we were awful last year, and the team didn't give him a chance to get on the field lets us all know how bad Hack is. Just getting him in there to get a feel of the game would have hurt nothing. You really think throwing him on the field to try to learn while we played horribly, the vets quit on the team, wr were playing alligator arms and the line was Swiss cheese would have cause NO HARM to any possible future the kid has? How many times have we seen a QB ruined because he was put in too soon with teams much better than we fielded last year? I know you cant be serious when you say it would have hurt nothing. The small chance he has this year all would have been ruined by ANOTHER example of the Jets throwing in a qb too soon....the sanchize and geno were both put in before they were ready....sorry, sitting the kid was the best thing that could have ever happened to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said: not one person is saying there is a zero percent chance. People are saying that is it extremely unlikely. Like it happens once in a generation odds and the people believing that hack is the once in a generation player probably aren't dealing in reality. so you are saying that there is a zero percent chance that he is that once in a generation player? If you cant say there is a zero percent chance then you cant say something that hasnt happened yet is "reality" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 2 hours ago, jetspenguin said: You really think throwing him on the field to try to learn while we played horribly, the vets quit on the team, wr were playing alligator arms and the line was Swiss cheese would have cause NO HARM to any possible future the kid has? How many times have we seen a QB ruined because he was put in too soon with teams much better than we fielded last year? I know you cant be serious when you say it would have hurt nothing. The small chance he has this year all would have been ruined by ANOTHER example of the Jets throwing in a qb too soon....the sanchize and geno were both put in before they were ready....sorry, sitting the kid was the best thing that could have ever happened to him. When you are at the bottom there is only one direction you can go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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