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Enunwa Injury a Reminder That Jets Shouldn’t Have Dumped Decker

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Just now, joewilly12 said:

Then justify a 38 year old QB with a lifetime NFL record of 18-42 being the starter. 

QB position a different beast...ideally you want the "face of the franchise" to actually win the job...especially when you have "B" level talent at the position...when you're sucking to actually get a shot at "A" level talent you sometimes need that bridge QB to know how to lose without embarrassing the team too much.  It is what it is.  

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4 minutes ago, Jetscode1 said:

QB position a different beast...ideally you want the "face of the franchise" to actually win the job...especially when you have "B" level talent at the position...when you're sucking to actually get a shot at "A" level talent you sometimes need that bridge QB to know how to lose without embarrassing the team too much.  It is what it is.  

Its a repeat over and over here. We sign the worst available option at QB and trot him out as the face of the franchise. Macc is solely to blame for all the QB issues on this current team. He had opportunities to upgrade the position in  free agency and during the draft he failed in both chances. Did he not see McCown play in Cleveland last season. 

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Just now, joewilly12 said:

Its a repeat over and over here. We sign the worst available option at QB and trot him out as the face of the franchise. Macc is solely to blame for all the QB issues on this current team. He had opportunities to upgrade the position in  free agency and during the draft he failed in both chances. 

Team is what the team is...what we going to do?  Hard to change allegiances at my age.  Macc's getting a chance to build this team from the ground up.  I've liked some of his moves and this is year 3 from his inaugural draft so we should have enough info to gauge his progress by year's end.  He just needs to keep the rebuild moving forward IMO and hope gets lucky at the QB position eventually.  By eventually, I mean hurry the **** up already...lol

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4 minutes ago, Jetscode1 said:

Team is what the team is...what we going to do?  Hard to change allegiances at my age.  Macc's getting a chance to build this team from the ground up.  I've liked some of his moves and this is year 3 from his inaugural draft so we should have enough info to gauge his progress by year's end.  He just needs to keep the rebuild moving forward IMO and hope gets lucky at the QB position eventually.  By eventually, I mean hurry the **** up already...lol

Understood and agree if I was a season ticket holder paying the PSL fee, tickets and parking id be more pissed and I would be at camp protesting this sh*t instead of showing up there and rooting on garbage, The franchise is basically jamming it up all our asses with the roster they've assembled this season, one of the worst Jets roster in a longtime and possibly worst in the NFL. I hope to see another Jets Super Bowl in my lifetime. So not ready for another sh*t season. 

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4 hours ago, bitonti said:

Decker has been injured a ton and he's at that point in his career when he surely will be injured again.   he's not productive spending half the year on the training table. 

This is the key point Decker was to much of a risk for a player who already has shown that he couldn't take the wear and tear of being a Number 1# type WR; now couple that with the perception that Decker was a locker room lawyer and the Jets felt that they needed to move on. 

If Decker were the difference between making the playoffs and not, then you sign him, but as you pointed out elsewhere the Jets playoff hopes are between slim and none at best. 

That is why the released him. 

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3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Understood and agree if I was a season ticket holder paying the PSL fee, tickets and parking id be more pissed and I would be at camp protesting this sh*t instead of showing up there and rooting on garbage, The franchise is basically jamming it up all our asses with the roster they've assembled this season, one of the worst Jets roster in a longtime and possibly worst in the NFL. I hope to see another Jets Super Bowl in my lifetime. So not ready for another sh*t season. 

Except protesting won't make the team any better...season-ticket holders know what they paid for...zero guarantees some years for a competitive team...sometimes it just has to get worse before it gets better...this year most likely going that route...take solace...Titans sucked really bad for a few years...picked up Mariota...and now is everyone's favorite darkhorse to make the playoffs...we need a QB, preferably our own draft choice to hit jackpot...plus some rising talent around him to propel the team forward...hope springs eternal this time of year.

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3 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

Total myth.  

A QB can do only so much.  No one can make a WR who runs the wrong routes, can't make the right read, can't recognize coverages etc into a good player.  A QB can make a good, talented player better though.  No one knows that we have anyone outside of Enunwa who fits that description.   

Just to make it worse the entire unit is devoid of talent.  And he's basically a rookie, trying to learn the game while a handful of fans blame him for not elevating the play of a talentless unit.  To blame Hack for not bringing out the best in this unit is total BS

Thank you!!

Once again the foolishness of QBs just can magically uplift those around them no matter who is on the team is just flat out ridiculous.   

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Just now, Charlie Brown said:

Thank you!!

Once again the foolishness of QBs just can magically uplift those around them no matter who is on the team is just flat out ridiculous.   

You cant be serious. The Jets are a perfect example of what success you have with a decent QB. 

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Moving Decker off the roster makes sense, but the way it was done makes none. Try and get a pick hell even if it's a 6th rounder who cares don't just let the guy walk for nothing!

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9 minutes ago, YankeeJet22 said:

Eric Decker played one healthy season out of three with the Jets.  What's the sense of having him and paying him if he's not on the field?

What's the sense of cutting good players at important positions with reasonable contracts?

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1 minute ago, joewilly12 said:

Macc is cleaning house we are a rebuilding franchise, going with the youth movement haven't you heard. 

Image result for josh mccown gifs

Youth Movement = Signing a 39 year old scrub Starting QB and trying to talk a 41 year old possession receiver out of retirement

 

Macagnan is CLUE-LESS

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1 hour ago, joewilly12 said:

You cant be serious. The Jets are a perfect example of what success you have with a decent QB. 

When loaded everywhere else.

A perfect example.  :wacko:

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28 minutes ago, thadude said:

This will get Macagnan and Bowles fired in January:

 

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Maybe, maybe not.  All depends on how the recent draft picks play and whether we found a QB or we are in a position to draft a QB in the high end of the draft.  Now, that crowd and another 5-11 season (draft pick 6-12) with the Macc picks playing like dogsh*t...then probably.  

Right now, its all about the process.

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Just now, Jetscode1 said:

Maybe, maybe not.  All depends on how the recent draft picks play and whether we found a QB or we are in a position to draft a QB in the high end of the draft.  Now, that crowd and another 5-11 season (draft pick 6-12) with the Macc picks playing like dogsh*t...then probably.  

Right now, its all about the process.

When Garropolo is putting up 35+ points on Bowles' defense (aka Macagnan's entire drafts 2015-2017) in week 17  I got a funny feeling both Macagnan and Bowles will be getting the pink slip the next day on Black Monday.

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What if Decker re-injured one of the 100 things he's injured in the past.  Would this article still matter?  This is a pretty silly hypothetical imo.  Enunwa being held out with a minor injury right now is a good thing for someone like Gabe Marks who will get more time and experience for evaluations before cut down.

edit: Just noticed i'm not the only one with this argument.  Good to see.

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1 hour ago, thadude said:

This will get Macagnan and Bowles fired in January:

 

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I feel for everyone in that crowd and those who will be there this 2017 season I was every home game during the 1-15 Kotite season there is nothing fun about it except tailgating with friends and family. 

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1 hour ago, thadude said:

What's the sense of cutting good players at important positions with reasonable contracts?

Is injured reserve considered an important position? This is a rebuilding team. No sense to keep older players that are useless on the sidelines. 

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8 hours ago, Mike135 said:

Bring back Braylon.

He'd still be the best WR on this team. Same for Sanchez as QB. And then people praise Mac. SMDH. 

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2 hours ago, SR24 said:

Moving Decker off the roster makes sense, but the way it was done makes none. Try and get a pick hell even if it's a 6th rounder who cares don't just let the guy walk for nothing!

If Mac had a clue, we would not have had the worst roster in the league. We still have some good players. But Mac is hell bent on ruining a few careers. I've never hated a GM as much as I hate Mac. Not even Idzik. Idzik didn't assemble the worst roster in the league even in a year he left sh*t ton of space for the following year for Mac to gobble. 

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53 minutes ago, thadude said:

When Garropolo is putting up 35+ points on Bowles' defense (aka Macagnan's entire drafts 2015-2017) in week 17  I got a funny feeling both Macagnan and Bowles will be getting the pink slip the next day on Black Monday.

Projection.  I'm hoping they win that game.  

Feelings?  You want to talk about feelings?  Listen to this and then we can properly put football in perspective.

 

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29 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

I feel for everyone in that crowd and those who will be there this 2017 season I was every home game during the 1-15 Kotite season there is nothing fun about it except tailgating with friends and family. 

More feelings...

 

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6 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Is it bad that I actually somewhat like this song?

No.  It truly reminds me of a girl back in the day.  

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5 hours ago, Tony MaC said:

Decker would have been a non-fit on this team as it stands now. 

Our roster is more or less on the same boat when it comes to the trajectory of their careers. Either they're younger players with less than a year of starting experience being thrust into vital roles on the team or they're veterans trying to make a home for themselves during the prime years of their careers. The only notable exceptions are Matt Forte whose only here because of his contract, and Josh McCown who accepts his role in the youth revolution as a bridge QB.

Decker doesn't quite fit those descriptions, he's about to hit thirty and still has something to give a competitive team over the next few years  of his career. We could have kept him around, he could have given some pointers to younger receivers or maybe provided the QB's with a proven option, and he could have been our main "face of the franchise" for a while, but to what end? So he can be cut next year as the younger players take over? So he can have the thought that he's essentially playing a wasted year on a team that's trying to build for a future he wont be involved in? (the opposite of when he joined)

Nah, lets just cut out the middle man and get ahead on this. This year is about the young players and unless you're like Mccown and you're prepared to have your job taken there's no need to be on this team right now. The Jets did Decker a favor by doing this a year earlier than they needed to.

Decker healthy makes this a much better offense given who we have now.   But it was 50/50 he was going to stay healthy for the year.

For the Jets to get lucky this year Stewart and Hansen outperform and step up.  They are working on on it.

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4 hours ago, joewilly12 said:

You cant be serious. The Jets are a perfect example of what success you have with a decent QB. 

You misunderstood me.  I'm not saying that a great QB can't make a a difference. I was the one who was saying last year that we substitute Brady for Fitz and where would our team have been? Playoffs at least IMO.... No, what I was saying was that you can't have CFL players around the QB and expect him to carry the load.  

A perfect example of that IMO was Archie Manning of the 1970's, great QB, horrible supporting staff, led to horrific play and CONSTANT LOSING!!!

For me football is a great game precisely because you have to have a pretty good team to win it all.  This isn't basketball where Wilt Chamberlain, Michael Jordan, or Lebron James can change a team regardless of talent.

It is simple my friend, in the NFL no matter how great the QB, he needs help, plain and simple.

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