Tinstar Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Ed Reed in his prime or Revis in his prime, who do you keep if forced to trade 1 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscanes331 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Ed Reed by a mile. All the talent none of the diva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Ed Reed. Revis locked down opposing WR1's but Reed changes the outcome of games with the kinds of plays he made on a regular basis. Love me some prime Revis but this one is easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Ed Reed Revis is one of the most overrated players of our life time. Rex made Revis and Revis was only dominant for a 1 1/2 year stretch under Rex. Just an average player after Rex. Plus he's a enited bitch who quit on his team multiple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I can't remember one game changing play Revis ever made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 There'd be more incentive to trade the guy who's holding out again, don't you think? But seriously, the only way Revis is even in contention for that is if you focus solely on his 2009 season and then say you would be getting a long-term version of that. As great of a season as that was, it was all downhill from there. While half of his 2010 season was nearly as great, the other half was him showing up as a fat ass who didn't bother getting in shape during his holdout, which was the direct cause of his injury. 2011 was the beginning of what turned out to be an ongoing decline from there. In the end, Reed is a first ballot HOF lock, while Revis might eventually get in there, but is far from a certainly given a list of red marks against him that keeps getting longer, especially after his garbage season last year and the very realistic possibility that his career is going to disappear off into nothingness this year, as opposed to a retirement by choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Reed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jet Nut Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Revis every time. He locked down the opponents best WR. Reed played center field and his best work was after the reception. Is interesting that some of those who cried over picking a S because hes a low value position, are now rating one higher than a HOF shut down corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Revis very easily. Ed Reed was a phenomenal player but some of the chances he could take would not wash on some other teams. Reed made a lot of big plays but Revis in his prime year totally shut down every star receiver in the league he faced. He also was good in the run game and also got turnovers. No contest for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 Amazing that a guy who many considered the best CB in the NFL over a 5 year span and thus far not a single Jet fan would have kept him over Ed Reed . Tell me again, which 1 is the premium position ? I guess I replied too quickly . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Tinstar said: Amazing that a guy who many considered the best CB in the NFL over a 5 year span and thus far not a single Jet fan would have kept him over Ed Reed . Tell me again, which 1 is the premium position ? Meh, that's not a fair way to asses the positions. Reed is one of the greatest ever to play the game, arguably the best at his position. Revis was a flash in the pan. If he had the career Reed did, it would be a different conversation because CB > S but we are not discussing players on the same level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, JiF said: Meh, that's not a fair way to asses the positions. Reed is one of the greatest ever to play the game, arguably the best at his position. Revis was a flash in the pan. If he had the career Reed did, it would be a different conversation because CB > S but we are not discussing players on the same level. Wow, you dont actually watch games, do you. Flash in the pan? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 Ed Reed and Revis played in the same era and during that time, some were calling Revis the best defensive player in the league . Revis was being mentioned with HOF inductees . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Revis had the best season ever for a Corner, but he was a greedy douche. Ed Reed by a mile, a real football player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Wow, you dont actually watch games, do you. Flash in the pan? LOL 1 1/2 years of dominance followed by a career of average play = flash in the pan. But he had a clever nickname, so that's means he was always good. Plus, he's a Jet and those guys are the bestest at everything. ///Jet nutted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, JiF said: 1 1/2 years of dominance followed by a career of average play = flash in the pan. But he had a clever nickname, so that's means he was always good. Plus, he's a Jet and those guys are the bestest at everything. ///Jet nutted 1 and a half years. Only by Jet fans. Ridiculous. You dont watch the games. Thanks for clearing that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: 1 and a half. You dont watch the games. Thanks for clearing that up. I watch every game. Twice. Sometimes 3 times. Depends on my mode. You like nicknames because they're cool and it makes you look like you actually watch Football. Do you have a pink Revis jersey? I'm guessing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, JiF said: I watch every game. Twice. Sometimes 3 times. Depends on my mode. You like nicknames because they're cool and it makes you look like you actually watch Football. Do you have a pink Revis jersey? I'm guessing so. Sure, Revis was nothing more than a nickname. Maybe when you wake up you'll realize he got the nickname for being the leagues best not the other way around. But hey, why give props to maybe this teams best drafted player, ever. Its much cooler and makes you smarter than the HOF, the media, the experts, WRs and other CB's. You really have no clue what youre talking about with Revis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 24 minutes ago, JiF said: Meh, that's not a fair way to asses the positions. Reed is one of the greatest ever to play the game, arguably the best at his position. Revis was a flash in the pan. If he had the career Reed did, it would be a different conversation because CB > S but we are not discussing players on the same level. Bingo. Theoretically speaking it would be a very different story IF Revis could have kept up his 2009 level of play. He most certainly did not. Was he still very good in his career? With the very obvious exception of being outright awful last year, for the most part yes. Any "greatest of all time" argument lasted for a very short window of time, because as it turns out, that level of play was for a grand total of one year and now he's out of the league in his early 30s, and not by his own choice. Over the past few years, he's no longer even considered the greatest of the current era, often getting beat out by the likes of Sherman in the eyes of most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Sure, Revis was nothing more than a nickname. Maybe when you wake up you'll realize he got the nickname for being the leagues best not the other way around. But hey, why give props to maybe this teams best drafted player, ever. Its much cooler and makes you smarter than the HOF, the media, the experts, WRs and other CB's. You really have no clue what youre talking about with Revis. Perhaps you should attempt to consider contributing something other than the supposed stupidity / lack of clue of others, considering you've provided absolutely nothing but a completely personal subjective opinion without the slightest attempt to support it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Reed is the best safety I have ever seen, and his prime was wayyyyyy longer than Revis. Revis had the best season by a corner I can remember, but Reed's career was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 hour ago, JiF said: Ed Reed Revis is one of the most overrated players of our life time. Rex made Revis and Revis was only dominant for a 1 1/2 year stretch under Rex. Just an average player after Rex. Plus he's a enited bitch who quit on his team multiple times. LOL, Rex made Revis? Why didn't he make more of them then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: Perhaps you should attempt to consider contributing something other than the supposed stupidity / lack of clue of others, considering you've provided absolutely nothing but a completely personal subjective opinion without the slightest attempt to support it. 1. Never called anyone stupid. 2. If someone wants to say that I'm in love with a nickname and that Revis was good for only 1 1/2 years, that he was the most overrated player of our lifetime, thats clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Sure, Revis was nothing more than a nickname. Maybe when you wake up you'll realize he got the nickname for being the leagues best not the other way around. But hey, why give props to maybe this teams best drafted player, ever. Its much cooler and makes you smarter than the HOF, the media, the experts, WRs and other CB's. You really have no clue what youre talking about with Revis. No clue. That's why everyone is agreeing with me and not you. But continue telling us how much more you know than the rest of us. It's adorable and makes me respect your takes that much more than I already do. Which is a lot, to say the least. You probably loved Jamall Anderson, didn't you? You dirty bird you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: Perhaps you should attempt to consider contributing something other than the supposed stupidity / lack of clue of others, considering you've provided absolutely nothing but a completely personal subjective opinion without the slightest attempt to support it. He's got a nickname and people said so, ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, NoBowles said: LOL, Rex made Revis? Why didn't he make more of them then? Did you see the contract Gilmore got from the Pats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 minute ago, JiF said: No clue. That's why everyone is agreeing with me and not you. But continue telling us how much more you know than the rest of us. It's adorable and makes me respect your takes that much more than I already do. Which is a lot, to say the least. You probably loved Jamall Anderson, didn't you? You dirty bird you. Copy and paste where i said i know more than anyone. I'm not the one selling Revis as a nickname who had a season and a half of good play, nothing more. WTF does JA have to do with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just now, JiF said: Did you see the contract Gilmore got from the Pats? So he made Revis and Gilmore? What about the rest of the corners who played for him? Was he all out of great CB making magic dust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 minute ago, NoBowles said: So he made Revis and Gilmore? What about the rest of the corners who played for him? Was he all out of great CB making magic dust? Given that Rex coached Reed, did he make Reed too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I'll go revis. If we're talking about their prime, and not career, then revis being able to shutdown the greatest wrs in the game in an era where nobody could shut down the best without help was an incredible accomplishment. Those picking Reed over revis because Reed made more big plays don't quite grasp the different jobs these guys had. QBs didn't throw his way. You can't really game plan around a safety. If you're taking Deion or revis, it's not even close. Deion shut you down and when you made the mistake of going his way, it was likely resulting in a pick 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just now, Jet Nut said: Given that Rex coached Reed, did he make Reed too? Apparently. Rex makes the good/great players. He has some sort of pixie dust or magic wand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just now, Jet Nut said: Copy and paste where i said i know more than anyone. I'm not the one selling Revis as a nickname who had a season and a half of good play, nothing more. WTF does JA have to do with this? Don't be coy. You said I don't watch games or know what I'm taking about, which implies you do so you know more. Anderson was the man 1 year. Dirty Bird and all. Which means he was great and earned it more than guys who don't have nicknames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, NoBowles said: So he made Revis and Gilmore? What about the rest of the corners who played for him? Was he all out of great CB making magic dust? Dont play dumb. He tapped into their talents and get the best out of them. Cro too. Darby. McAllister in Balt. The list goes on, honey. Revis was never the same after Rex and he wasn't Revis Island before him. This is fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 minute ago, JiF said: Dont play dumb. He tapped into their talents and get the best out of them. Cro too. Darby. McAllister in Balt. The list goes on, honey. Revis was never the same after Rex and he wasn't Revis Island before him. This is fact. honey? you made it move... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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