How Invested Are You?

[section314]

Let's see....this is my 38th year of having season tickets.Over that span, I've never had fewer than 4 seats, and for many years had as many as 9. We go to all home games, and one road game each year.You tell me, how invested am I?

[JETSfaninNE]

I'm excited because football is back in general.  I don't really let myself get overly emotional anymore, I do let myself get pumped when good things happen though but I maintain a certain degree of numbness to the lows at this point.  I'm more interested in this season than a few others I think, I really like watching young teams develop and am OK with the lumps and bruises that come along with that.  I still think this team matches their record last year and may actually shake a few more wins loose and upset at least 1 or 2 teams.  Most will despise the Jets if that happens but it will just make me more confident that the players on this team are developing and are super young.  I don't expect Rome built in a night, but I do need to see the progress!  

[JETSfaninNE]

9 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

I have never made a post like this .... but I will now. 

This is has been a nightmare year for me. I wont get into the details as we have a preseason game to watch this team begin to reshape itself!!  Anyway .. . I was able to make it out to Florham Park a couple days ago to spend the day with my nephews watching this team try establish trust, toughness and accountability with each other. It was refreshing.  Not to say teams of past didn't do this .. I have been a fan since '84, but this years seems different.  A true clean slate. 

The day was amazing .. the kids were lucky and got to escort players to the field.  ArDarius Stewart and Jonatthan Harrison.  Funny story ... ArDarius asked my elder nephew why he was a Jets fan. The kid responded that his Uncle was to blame and that living as a sole Jets fan in a house of Patriots fans was tough (6 immediate family members, 7 extended family members are patriots fans ... from Boston either by blood or living there.) . Adarius laughed.

Being a Jets fan has taught him that 'sometimes' the struggle and resilience is more memorable and important than the outcome. It's how you build upon those seemingly negative experiences.

The day ended with a photo op with Lorenzo Mauldin.

Anyway .. I wanted to send out a public thanks to the team for being so great with the kids ... we are pulling for all of you.

Here are a few photos from the day ... I have a ton of others that are pretty cool too. You can see a few here ... https://goo.gl/photos/nCeHvExbH8HKsvfPA

So .. yeah ... I'm committed.

 

This is a great post, thanks for sharing!  Its true that it teaches resilience and makes certain victories whether big or small, all the more meaningful.   

[JohnnyLV]

I am actually MORE invested this year than in the past couple of years because we are finally trying to BUILD a team

And we do not have a bad roster we have a young, unproven roster which is completely different. If I see improvement game to game I will be as excited as any other year. 

We only get to see our team play 16 times in an entire year not counting preseason. Games are precious. And until proven otherwise I will think we will surprise

 

[kelly]

19 hours ago, Augustiniak said:

we're here posting on august 11 in a preseason where the jets are projected to be the worst team in the nfl.  suffice it to say, we're all invested.  

yup..

 

[Larz]

Hoping for the worst, prepared for the best

[Jet Fan RI]

I think for me it will be a lot like most past seasons. Will start highly invested, even optimistic. But as the losses pile up, the investment will melt into dejection.

[RutgersJetFan]

Zero. And I think I'm going to make it about 8-9 games before I stop wasting hours every Sunday suffering through this.

This isn't a young, exciting team full of promise that just needs a year or two to develop. We aren't building anything and have absolutely nothing at almost every skill position that matters. That's not team building. We have a talentless offense that is going to be brutal to watch, and seeing how Adams and Williams play every week isn't going to be worth sitting through that. This is going to be a historically bad offense and I am not looking forward to the first few weeks of having to sit through it before I have to talk myself into the fact that I'm actually an adult and I don't have to watch this sh*t if I don't want to.

[T0mShane]

53 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

Zero. And I think I'm going to make it about 8-9 games before I stop wasting hours every Sunday suffering through this.

This isn't a young, exciting team full of promise that just needs a year or two to develop. We aren't building anything and have absolutely nothing at almost every skill position that matters. That's not team building. We have a talentless offense that is going to be brutal to watch, and seeing how Adams and Williams play every week isn't going to be worth sitting through that. This is going to be a historically bad offense and I am not looking forward to the first few weeks of having to sit through it before I have to talk myself into the fact that I'm actually an adult and I don't have to watch this sh*t if I don't want to.

There used to be some peripheral joy in watching this team implode because you could convince yourself that the humiliation would inspire organizational change, but it's become exceedingly clear that the Woody Johnson Jets are never, ever going to learn a goddamn thing. We're stuck in that Leon Hess spin-cycle, again and forever.

[Bugg]

3 hours ago, Flushing Roots said:

More invested each year.

Slowly losing all interest in baseball as the games take way too long and I get more and more bored with it.

July was torture.  Really looking forward to this year.

Like everyone else, I will be watching Hack closely to see if he is the real deal.

And I am fine if it's Petty.  Will be p*ssed if it is McCown.

 

Was a big Yankees fan forever. And it's just too slow. Too many long stretches when nothing happens. A guy like Aaron Judge seems like a really good guy in every way, yet have no interest. Still do fantasy as a gambling thing. Part of it is the players I rooted for, especially Mariano Rivera, have retired. And part of it is a son playing high school football and lax and there is only so much you can watch. Not sure  MLB gets it. Soccer is at some point going to eat their lunch. Even with limited offense there is things happening away from the ball all the time.The lack of ads and the fact it's done in 2 hours(even with the idiocy of injury time)  Not sure in MLS becomes  a real world class soccer organization or EPL puts teams in the US, but either way it's gonna happen.   

[RutgersJetFan]

3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

There used to be some peripheral joy in watching this team implode because you could convince yourself that the humiliation would inspire organizational change, but it's become exceedingly clear that the Woody Johnson Jets are never, ever going to learn a goddamn thing. We're stuck in that Leon Hess spin-cycle, again and forever.

Players too. When Chad and Sanchez and Geno hit the end of their skid, it was liberating because we could move on. This time around, Hackenberg sucking actually sucks, a lot.

For me, the most disheartening thing of it all is that Woody actually did the right thing this time around. He hired legit football guys to hire the other guys, and we still cocked it up.

 

[Bugg]

3 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

Players too. When Chad and Sanchez and Geno hit the end of their skid, it was liberating because we could move on. This time around, Hackenberg sucking actually sucks, a lot.

For me, the most disheartening thing of it all is that Woody actually did the right thing this time around. He hired legit football guys to hire the other guys, and we still cocked it up.

 

He did not do the right thing. The right thing was either making the GM the Godfather and stepping back, or hiring a Club President and let him run the show. And either way demand that in an NFL that requires a serious passing attack to succeed and by design discounts the value of defense, demand said powers that be find a real QB ASAP. And instead he did the 2-headed monster thing AGAIN and hired a defense first  HC AGAIN.  Sorry, Bowles is a clown,and  that Maccagnan does not have a barely competent QB in place 3 years in is a disgrace. Taking 2 safeties is a joke. 

[RutgersJetFan]

Just now, Bugg said:

He did not do the right thing. The right thing was either making the GM the Godfather and stepping back, or hiring a Club President and let him run the show. And either way demand that in an NFL that requires a serious passing attack to succeed and by design discounts the value of defense, demand said powers that be find a real QB ASAP. And instead he did the 2-headed monster thing AGAIN and hired a defense first  HC AGAIN.  Sorry, Bowles is a clown,and  that Maccagnan does not have a barely competent QB in place 3 years in is a disgrace. Taking 2 safeties is a joke. 

I just meant in the hiring process. The separation of powers is dumb, but with Macaggnan and Bowles I honestly don't think it matters anyways. They would suck no matter the structure.

[Bugg]

 

4 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

I just meant in the hiring process. The separation of powers is dumb, but with Macaggnan and Bowles I honestly don't think it matters anyways. They would suck no matter the structure.

Cannot keep hiring HCs who think they can succeed by subcontracting out the offense to the latest OC. It's how they've done business spare Mangini for Johnson's entire ownership. It hasn't worked and he keeps doing it. 

[T0mShane]

15 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

Players too. When Chad and Sanchez and Geno hit the end of their skid, it was liberating because we could move on. This time around, Hackenberg sucking actually sucks, a lot.

For me, the most disheartening thing of it all is that Woody actually did the right thing this time around. He hired legit football guys to hire the other guys, and we still cocked it up.

 

 

7 minutes ago, Bugg said:

He did not do the right thing. The right thing was either making the GM the Godfather and stepping back, or hiring a Club President and let him run the show. And either way demand that in an NFL that requires a serious passing attack to succeed and by design discounts the value of defense, demand said powers that be find a real QB ASAP. And instead he did the 2-headed monster thing AGAIN and hired a defense first  HC AGAIN.  Sorry, Bowles is a clown,and  that Maccagnan does not have a barely competent QB in place 3 years in is a disgrace. Taking 2 safeties is a joke. 

In fairness to Woody, he did try to keep Parcells from leaving and allegedly offered a full-time gig to Casserly. Problem is that something--presumably the presence of Woody--has turned the job into Fukushima. Bowles was actually a valued candidate, but Maccagnan was a default pick that only got the job after a bunch of candidates wouldn't even interview here, and Macc was just some dude that Casserly worked with once. 

[RutgersJetFan]

4 minutes ago, Bugg said:

 

Cannot keep hiring HCs who think they can succeed by subcontracting out the offense to the latest OC. It's how they've done business spare Mangini for Johnson's entire ownership. It hasn't worked and he keeps doing it. 

And GMs who have no concept of the salary cap, positional value, and how just how far to take BAP strategy in the draft.

If Macc could draft, everything else would be excusable, but holy crap with the last 3 years.

[RutgersJetFan]

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

 

In fairness to Woody, he did try to keep Parcells from leaving and allegedly offered a full-time gig to Casserly. Problem is that something--presumably the presence of Woody--has turned the job into Fukushima. Bowles was actually a valued candidate, but Maccagnan was a default pick that only got the job after a bunch of candidates wouldn't even interview here, and Macc was just some dude that Casserly worked with once. 

The problem is his efforts with Parcells cost us Belichick.

[Bugg]

6 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

 

In fairness to Woody, he did try to keep Parcells from leaving and allegedly offered a full-time gig to Casserly. Problem is that something--presumably the presence of Woody--has turned the job into Fukushima. Bowles was actually a valued candidate, but Maccagnan was a default pick that only got the job after a bunch of candidates wouldn't even interview here, and Macc was just some dude that Casserly worked with once. 

Don't know why or how or what it is, but clear Woody Johnson is a problem. You can pretend otherwise, but clear there are owners like Kraft, Mara/Tisch, Rooney who are respected. He is not. 

[T0mShane]

7 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

The problem is his efforts with Parcells cost us Belichick.

I can't imagine Belichick wanting to work for a rube like Woody anyway. Kraft has talked about what he learned from Parcells about getting out of the coach's way, which prepared him for dealing with Belichick. 

[T0mShane]

3 minutes ago, Bugg said:

Don't know why or how or what it is, but clear Woody Johnson is a problem. You can pretend otherwise, but clear there are owners like Kraft, Mara/Tisch, Rooney who are respected. He is not. 

Given the number of coaching and GM candidates that have refused to even interview here, it's clear that the word is out and etched in stone. Maybe the Ambassador to England thing is our Howie Spira moment, but unfortunately we don't have a Stick Michael or Buck Showalter around to take the reins. 

[southparkcpa]

I spent 10 days in Amsterdam and London and a week in Mexico in the last 4 months. That coupled a move to NC in 95 when I saw NO JETS games makes me remember that the world does not need the NFL.  Most of the world could give a shat about the NFL.

Accordingly... I have emotionally uninvested myself for the year.   Ill pay attention, maybe watch a half here and there, but thats it for 2017.  If we have 4 wins come November...ill go to Tampa. maybe.

 

[Warfish]

22 hours ago, DMan77 said:

I'm curious how much of an emotional investment people are putting on the table this year for the Jets, and really for the NFL in general... 

As invested as I am every year, 110%+

Difference this year is I'm going in knowing (or strongly presuming) we are not competitive.

So what I am invested in this year is growth.  Development.  The youth.  Signs of promise for the future, things to build on.

Wins/Losses mean nothing to me this year (either way, I'm not a suck for Sam idiot).  I want to see something that gives me reason to want to retain Mac.  Bowles.  Hack.  Anyone.

Because every single person on the Jets, from front office to the ballboy, should be "playing for their jobs" this year.

[ZachEY]

Invested in the long term - week by week is nearly meaningless.

[Dunnie]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

Given the number of coaching and GM candidates that have refused to even interview here, it's clear that the word is out and etched in stone. Maybe the Ambassador to England thing is our Howie Spira moment, but unfortunately we don't have a Stick Michael or Buck Showalter around to take the reins. 

i can't remember ... who exactly refused to interview here ??

[Scoop24]

I'm not emotionally invested like past years . But I'm interested to see if any Gems come out the huge group of young guys .. so I'll be watching every week

[Guest]

HA HA HA - it's like investing in selling ice to Eskimos .

[BigRy56]

Jet fans are some of the most passionate in American sports. Everybody can talk all they want but when they kick off on 9/10 we will all be watching and invested......

[Jet Nut]

4 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said:

The problem is his efforts with Parcells cost us Belichick.

Belichich, the coach who back then nobody wanted is now an issue. 

[RutgersJetFan]

4 hours ago, T0mShane said:

I can't imagine Belichick wanting to work for a rube like Woody anyway. Kraft has talked about what he learned from Parcells about getting out of the coach's way, which prepared him for dealing with Belichick. 

Bah.

[NoBowles]

5 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Given the number of coaching and GM candidates that have refused to even interview here, it's clear that the word is out and etched in stone. Maybe the Ambassador to England thing is our Howie Spira moment, but unfortunately we don't have a Stick Michael or Buck Showalter around to take the reins. 

Sadly this is probably true 

[DMan77]

Really interesting answers; thanks all.

I think it's interesting how some of you are approaching this season with the "bleed green and white" attitude, but also with dampened expectations in general. I'd like to be able to do that too... Love and follow this team as always, but for different reasons than wins and loses.

 

[jack48]

Not much, I gotta say.  Part of it is the experience of watching football/commercials on telly.  Too many stoppages.  I find myself getting annoyed.  As for the Jets, well.....they are gonna stink. How can I invest in that?

[Jetster]

I'm more interested this year as Brady just turned 40 years old. Please, please, let Stanford get a hit on him like he got on that Titan QB the other night. I've come to realize that as long as Brady is healthy it doesn't matter who we throw out there against that organization. And it's nothing to be ashamed about, hell, all of you would be high as a kite if we had Big Ben & Antonio Brown but the Pats have taken the Steelers & their idiot head coach Tomlin and smooshed their noses in a big pile of dogsh*t for years too.

So sit back & enjoy the rebuild. There's some young talent, they've drafted some 110% ers that look like they love football & the Pats will again be the type of team these young Jets can strive to be. I love the fact these young guys will get to play the best team in football twice, it'll let them know the type of dedication to their craft it will take to replace them eventually in the AFC East.

Theres no crying in football. Falcons fans had a worse offseason.