Jet9 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, The Crusher said: I'm not. I'm going to keep the kid we drafted who did the work to try and help this team win this year. He plays cornerback not d line. I don't think we are any better at corner depth than safety depth. Safety more important than corner? So we're just going to ignore the fact that McDougal is a walking Mayo Clinic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, Jet9 said: A guy that 30 other teams would have had a shot at. Safety depth verses corner depth . Those other 30 teams laughing in our faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 4 hours ago, T0mShane said: Maybe McDougle is one of those secret lizard people sent here to undermine humanity. Bullsh*t. Our benevolent reptilian overlords are here for the good of mankind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, The Crusher said: Safety depth verses corner depth . Those other 30 teams laughing in our faces. This is what I'm talking about re: arguing in good faith. You're choosing to ignore McDougals fragility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, Jet9 said: So we're just going to ignore the fact that McDougal is a walking Mayo Clinic? Or we can ignore the fact the kid worked his ass off to get stronger more durable and showed it on the field this year. On a team of inept, lazy players who have shown crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, Jet9 said: This is what I'm talking about re: arguing in good faith. You're choosing to ignore McDougals fragility. No I'm not. Not at all. I'm just recognizing that the kid did work to get stronger and set an example by coming into camp in year four and balling out. You are acting like we got Ed Reed for Dexter. Nobody knows what a healthy Dexter can do . You are 100% right we probably won't find out because logic says he gets injured. Yet the guy we got is a jag and will be a jag forever. So keep the homegrown kid and see what happens. This move does not make this team better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, The Crusher said: I like the kid. That's pretty widely known, which is why I wasn't even slightly surprised to see you unhappy with the move, and in that case it makes sense. It's just comical others trying to paint this as a real difference maker, when never before have they come to the defense of a 4th year player who has done absolutely nothing in his entire NFL career. Like I said to begin with, it's not that Macc deserves even the slightest bit of defense, but that doesn't change that the massive outcry about this is such a leaping load of bullsh*t. So many are just desperate to grasp on to any thing imaginable to bitch about, even if it's something they normally would have felt meaningless, ultimately making it far too long of a list. In the end, this is the same kid who spent half of last year on the PS and went untouched. Macc of course deserves nothing positive for this move, but it's nearly meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, Bleedin Green said: That's pretty widely known, which is why I wasn't even slightly surprised to see you unhappy with the move, and in that case it makes sense. It's just comical others trying to paint this as a real difference maker, when never before have they come to the defense of a 4th year player who has done absolutely nothing in his entire NFL career. Like I said to begin with, it's not that Macc deserves even the slightest bit of defense, but that doesn't change that the massive outcry about this is such a leaping load of bullsh*t. So many are just desperate to grasp on to any thing imaginable to bitch about, even if it's something they normally would have felt meaningless, ultimately making it far too long of a list. In the end, this is the same kid who spent half of last year on the PS and went untouched. Macc of course deserves nothing positive for this move, but it's nearly meaningless. I guess I feel a healthy Dexter has more upside than this jag we traded him for. plus I feel cornerback is a premium position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 38 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: I'm pretty done with Macc, but I have no idea how anyone could give the tiniest flake of sh*t about a trading involving a couple of third stringers. There's a long list of things Macc deserves hate for, but we've officially reached the point that he's so disdained that there's going to be massive outcry over ever single thing that happens, no matter how inconsequential. Hardly anything new for Jets GMs or coaches, but is also the fuel for the always ridiculously arguments between groups of people who all despise the same person, but most battle over who has the right reason why. Might as well add: early drafted QB rinse, repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Lucky him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 The jets must like guys like Roberts and Williams more. Now I can see them making the deal because we have more cbs than Safeties but there are a few disturbing things about having to make such a deal. - Like others have detailed we live through some rough years with a player, keep him around and then as soon as he looks like he can help he gets dumped. - The guy we got was cut by Baltimore if the team liked him that much he could have been picked up last year or when he was cut. - Why are we so thin at S? We drafted the two high end ones, we drafted two cbs late in the last draft. we did not sign even one udfa S (there were 36 udfa safeties signed by the rest of the league. - Cut down is not far away and we can pick up probably a guy as good as the one we got then. Reason to make the deal now may be sound but getting ourselves into the spot where a couple injuries to back us safeties force us to make the deal is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: - Cut down is not far away and we can pick up probably a guy as good as the one we got then. Exactly and with teams going from 90 to 53 there will be plenty to pick from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 27 minutes ago, The Crusher said: No I'm not. Not at all. I'm just recognizing that the kid did work to get stronger and set an example by coming into camp in year four and balling out. You are acting like we got Ed Reed for Dexter. Nobody knows what a healthy Dexter can do . You are 100% right we probably won't find out because logic says he gets injured. Yet the guy we got is a jag and will be a jag forever. So keep the homegrown kid and see what happens. This move does not make this team better. Agree to disagree. I like keeping homegrown guys too, but I will trade Devin Smith next year for a backup anything as well. Trying to keep emotion out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Jet9 said: Agree to disagree. I like keeping homegrown guys too, but I will trade Devin Smith next year for a backup anything as well. Trying to keep emotion out of this. I would cut him this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, joewilly12 said: I would cut him this year. And get absolutely nothing for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 What in the actual **** is this sh*t? How many god damn safeties does one team need? We planning the new visionary 11-safety Defensive system? I don't even care if McDoug was any good. This team is seriously wearing thin at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 22 minutes ago, Jet9 said: And get absolutely nothing for him? I do have my eye on a chicken parm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, jgb said: I do have my eye on a chicken parm See? Better than chicken sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, Jet9 said: See? Better than chicken sh*t. Unless Tannenbaum runs the deli, we won't even get that for Hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, jgb said: Unless Tannenbaum runs the deli, we won't even get that for Hack. This sport needs a professional development league in the WORST way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: I guess I feel a healthy Dexter has more upside than this jag we traded him for. plus I feel cornerback is a premium position. Wgat no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 middleton has a torn pec, forgot that not a bad move, but we have positions with no starters that could be addressed like WR ? if we want to entice the Jr QB's, we need some wepinz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Larz said: middleton has a torn pec, forgot that not a bad move, but we have positions with no starters that could be addressed like WR ? if we want to entice the Jr QB's, we need some wepinz need sum weapinz!!!!!! although technically wouldn't the QB be the weapon, the ball the ammo, and the receivers the targets? what's it matter we are unarmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Makes sense to me. Bad team gets bad cheap DB with good good knees for possibly maybe good CB with two bad knees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 You seriously could not get a WR ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOJ Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 7 hours ago, MDL_JET said: Uh... because we're so deep at CB? Wasn't Mcdougle having one of the better camps and most improved? Typical. Yes he was... as # 41 is playing like Wilson, ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 We needed a AB so what does Mac do? He drafts two safeties with the first two picks. We have no corner depth, so what does Mac do? He trades away his corner for yet another no-name safety. Can't wait till we sack his pathetic ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 5 hours ago, Jet9 said: And get absolutely nothing for him? Career 10 receptions 135 yards 1 TD we are already getting nothing from hm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 25 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Career 10 receptions 135 yards 1 TD we are already getting nothing from hm. Asset management. Can you get a conditional 7th? How about a trade for a guy who might (probably not) benefit from a change of scenery? You make that trade every single time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 McDougal put the tank at risk.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 If we had traded him for an OL, I would applaud the move. Trading for what you pissed the first two picks of THIS year away for, now that is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 20 hours ago, prime21 said: Miles got hurt so this is just adding depth. Not when you trade away your 2nd best cb for a backup s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Integrity28 said: Not when you trade away your 2nd best cb for a backup s Watch the last preseason game again. McDoogie didn't look very good to me. I was disappointed. Had know idea where he was supposed to be and he doesn't play special teams. The guy we got is a great ST player and that is what you want from back up DBs. We lost a good one when Middleton went down. Special teams are kind of important and I'm glad Mac has finally realized that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Here I was hoping we could draft some safeties in the early rounds next year Seriously I don't really agree with this unless he health track record was a concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 18 hours ago, Warfish said: What in the actual **** is this sh*t? How many god damn safeties does one team need? ALL the safeties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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