joewilly12 Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Larz said: This fan base has such an odd obsession with back up QBs Just sad Best of the 3 Macc has assembled.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 38 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Mario Andretti ? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Fab Five Freddy.......showing my age there bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, Larz said: This fan base has such an odd obsession with back up QBs Just sad Well when you eat boiled month-old cabbage every night who could blame us for taking a chance on the can of Mystery Meat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 39 minutes ago, Larz said: This fan base has such an odd obsession with back up QBs Just sad Number 1 is basically all that matters, who was the last #1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 43 minutes ago, Larz said: This fan base has such an odd obsession with back up QBs Just sad That's all we have is #2's....no pun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 The guy the team most wanted to fall on his ass and fail is the best of the bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, Apache 51 said: Number 1 is basically all that matters, who was the last #1? That we drafted? Pennington. Sanchez could have been with better offense coaches early in his career. At one point you could say he was mechanically sound and even clutch. Tanny built a team with a 2 year window and after it started to crack and Sanchez couldn't take the next step and make the players around him better, then he got into a downward spiral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, Beerfish said: The guy the team most wanted to fall on his ass and fail is the best of the bunch. This. F*ck the front office. They don't know what the hell they're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 37 minutes ago, Larz said: That we drafted? Pennington. Sanchez could have been with better offense coaches early in his career. At one point you could say he was mechanically sound and even clutch. Tanny built a team with a 2 year window and after it started to crack and Sanchez couldn't take the next step and make the players around him better, then he got into a downward spiral A number one to me is at the very least, and for the most part, taking you to the playoffs almost year in and year out and eventually getting you in and hopefully winning the SB of course there are some exceptions. Sanchez had very good O players in front of and around him the D was the weaker phase at that point relatively speaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 We have the same birthday, which is also Joe Namath's birthday, and he wears my favorite number. These are 3 legitimate reasons to make him the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I'm in. Petty proved it. With limited reps and limited playing time, he played very well with whatever his situation is. You can't just ignore that. I wanted to Hack but he's just not ready, not even close. And well...Mccown serves no purpose in starting now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 14 minutes ago, Apache 51 said: A number one to me is at the very least, and for the most part, taking you to the playoffs almost year in and year out and eventually getting you in and hopefully winning the SB of course there are some exceptions. Sanchez had very good O players in front of and around him the D was the weaker phase at that point relatively speaking. that's like 6 out of 64 NFL QB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 48 minutes ago, RoadFan said: Oh man, don't tempt me. He butt fumbled me, good to see his legendary sense of humor is still intact Best not argue with him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 53 minutes ago, RoadFan said: I don't enjoy fighting with a MOD. But while a case for what you say could be made... the eyeball test says the two aren't even close. Petty is a tough kid, clearly improving, and deserves a chance to run this offense way before Hack. This Hack rationalization is bordering on the absurd. I agree, Petty looked far more fluid and confident in the pocket than Hack; I would say that Petty is better right now than Hack. And by saying this, I'm not knocking Hack because I wanted Hack picked by the Jets from the beginning but right now IMO Petty is better prepared to play in a game than Hack is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 30 minutes ago, Larz said: That we drafted? Pennington. Sanchez could have been with better offense coaches early in his career. At one point you could say he was mechanically sound and even clutch. Tanny built a team with a 2 year window and after it started to crack and Sanchez couldn't take the next step and make the players around him better, then he got into a downward spiral I hear you.. I was considered a Sanchez "apologist" by many but my point was clear, which had NOTHING to do with Sanchez, that is, no team goes to the playoffs consistently with a horrible running game, terrible OL and weak WRs; in fact no team gets to a conference championship with those weaknesses IMO. The idea that a QB will uplift CFL talent is a MYTH!!! I am still waiting for someone to provide me the team, the real life example, in the last 60 years that has won either a Championship, or NFL title, with no decent offensive skill positions players and a poor OL. The short answer to that query; is NEVER. It has never happened, period. The fact is that winning teams (Championship teams) are supposed to have good OL, WRs and RBs etc; teams that make it to the big dance with such weaknesses don't exist and we shouldn't think that the Jets are going to be the ones to break that nonnegotiable theorem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 hours ago, slats said: Hackenberg looked no worse than Petty on that last TD drive against the same level of competition that Petty has played all preseason. If Petty had started against the giants number 1 defense and succeeded in be all aboard the Petty train but he destroyed to the same guys hack picked up to end the game. Personally, I want Petty or mccown to start game one so everyone sees what happens to any QB forced to play with this offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 29 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: I hear you.. I was considered a Sanchez "apologist" by many but my point was clear, which had NOTHING to do with Sanchez, that is, no team goes to the playoffs consistently with a horrible running game, terrible OL and weak WRs; in fact no team gets to a conference championship with those weaknesses IMO. The idea that a QB will uplift CFL talent is a MYTH!!! I am still waiting for someone to provide me the team, the real life example, in the last 60 years that has won either a Championship, or NFL title, with no decent offensive skill positions players and a poor OL. The short answer to that query; is NEVER. It has never happened, period. The fact is that winning teams (Championship teams) are supposed to have good OL, WRs and RBs etc; teams that make it to the big dance with such weaknesses don't exist and we shouldn't think that the Jets are going to be the ones to break that nonnegotiable theorem. tanny's rosters were always top heavy with little depth. we were very luck on the o-line for years that nobody got hurt. Once Edwards and LT moved on, they had nuttin I think the leaks about the red light green light thing hurt as well. Don't know if that was pettine, but it was bizarre Sanchez had his issues, but you have to wonder with good coaching if he could have been like a rivers type QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOJ Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 hours ago, slats said: Hackenberg looked no worse than Petty on that last TD drive against the same level of competition that Petty has played all preseason. The difference is he stiil didn't go through his progressions... watch the film again. At least Petty has command... hot so with Hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Larz said: This fan base has such an odd obsession with back up QBs Just sad NO the GM, and HC have an obsession with back up QB's over the past 2 years they have handed out 18 million to 2 backup QB's, and drafted a backup QB, and another QB who hasn't looked ready to even be a backup QB. This fan base has an obsession with wanting a franchise QB say maybe a chance at one in the 2018 draft since they passed on one this year in the draft for ******* Safety. The Jets current roster consists of 2 backup QB's, and QB not ready to dress on Sundays who are we supposed to root for nobody? Gotta root for someone under center for the Jets it's in a Jets fan DNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Also I get the feeling the GUYS in the Jets locker room like Petty, and want him as the QB over Hack, Richardson's quote early in camp said a lot to me when he answered a question about Petty, and Hack, his praise towards Petty seemed like it was because he thinks Petty is a guy he is willing to go to war with, while Hack hasn't seemed to get that favor with the guys in the locker room just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 ive been a petty fan all along loved him at baylor. not saying hes going to be a franchise qb, but hes a gunslinger. way rather see him play over hack and mccown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 14 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Also I get the feeling the GUYS in the Jets locker room like Petty, and want him as the QB over Hack, Richardson's quote early in camp said a lot to me when he answered a question about Petty, and Hack, his praise towards Petty seemed like it was because he thinks Petty is a guy he is willing to go to war with, while Hack hasn't seemed to get that favor with the guys in the locker room just yet. Winner, winner chicken dinner!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOJ Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 32 minutes ago, CotcheryifyouCan said: ive been a petty fan all along loved him at baylor. not saying hes going to be a franchise qb, but hes a gunslinger. way rather see him play over hack and mccown agree completely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I'm on board. His success was against backups, but he looked more poised in the pocket than Hack did and has a bit more in game experience. He's the type that wont look as sharp in practice but can give you surprising returns in live action. I think a bit of hand holding as to what his read should be on any given play will help him out to a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Larz said: that's like 6 out of 64 NFL QB's Not in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 4 hours ago, joewilly12 said: This kid deserves support he is the only decent QB on the roster. Hoping Todd Bowles names him the starting QB. I would suspect that is what he is planning to do, which is why he played in the 3rd preseason game so much. Of course, the state of his injury may have an impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 4 hours ago, slats said: Hackenberg looked no worse than Petty on that last TD drive against the same level of competition that Petty has played all preseason. that's the part that's a little overlooked. hack was playing against the giants starters whereas petty was playing against guys on the bubble. give hack the same degree of protection and he'll do well. i'm ok with either petty or hack getting the starting job. keep mccown firmly planted on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, Jet Fan RI said: I would suspect that is what he is planning to do, which is why he played in the 3rd preseason game so much. Of course, the state of his injury may have an impact. according to the ny post it's a sprain not a tear. but they still plan on playing him next week. are they kidding? do they want a tear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, rangerous said: that's the part that's a little overlooked. hack was playing against the giants starters whereas petty was playing against guys on the bubble. give hack the same degree of protection and he'll do well. i'm ok with either petty or hack getting the starting job. keep mccown firmly planted on the bench. They play didnt count, but Hack's second play after Petty got hurt he got sacked and fumbled. He cant set protections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, rangerous said: according to the ny post it's a sprain not a tear. but they still plan on playing him next week. are they kidding? do they want a tear? Yes they do. THEY WANT TO TEAR OUR HEARTS OPEN AGAIN AND AGAIN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, rangerous said: according to the ny post it's a sprain not a tear. but they still plan on playing him next week. are they kidding? do they want a tear? I'd guess 2 series max to start the game and get him some reps with the 1s under fire. Then park him and let McCown finish the first half and Hack the 2nd. Having said that who knows what stupid crap game plan Bowles will come up with. Either his hand is completely forced by ownership or Macc, or he's just completely over his head as a HC. I actually hope it's the latter so the next HC has a chance to be successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: They play didnt count, but Hack's second play after Petty got hurt he got sacked and fumbled. He cant set protections. He has clearly been vicimized by shell and beachum. We have a jag center now. Hack needs to be better, but the players around him have been brutal as well I think McCown gets the starter nod for that very reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, nycdan said: I'd guess 2 series max to start the game and get him some reps with the 1s under fire. Then park him and let McCown finish the first half and Hack the 2nd. Having said that who knows what stupid crap game plan Bowles will come up with. Either his hand is completely forced by ownership or Macc, or he's just completely over his head as a HC. I actually hope it's the latter so the next HC has a chance to be successful. The starters haven't played a rep in the eagles game in 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Just now, Larz said: The starters haven't played a rep in the eagles game in 10 years Good point. But this isn't a normal year. The decision-making has been bizarre, if not downright imbecilic, when viewed from the outside. Nothing they do would surprise me in that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 4 hours ago, slats said: Hackenberg looked no worse than Petty on that last TD drive against the same level of competition that Petty has played all preseason. Lol, really? Hack hasn't played a snap against the "same level of competition" yet (i.e. An NFL snap). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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