Bugg Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 27 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: And therein lies the dilemma. He is easily a 1st round talent, but he comes with baggage that drops his value. I think some people are forgetting that. He's a night of bad decisions away from an 8 game suspension. This is about the best return you could expect for him. Knock Maccagnan for his legion of failures, but this was as good a move as could be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Just now, 56mehl56 said: Would it be better if they kept him and he walked for free next year. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 31 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: To Seahawks. Jets receive Jermaine Kearse and conditional second rounder. Fair trade with or without Kearse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Mike Maccagnan did good and I've been very critical of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lego My Lageman Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: So we should basically forfeit our second round pick every year and not even pick anybody. OK Um no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Great job by our GM.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I hate this maybe we can draft another Hack or Amaro with the pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I can't find any fault in the deal if those terms are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mphtrilogy Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 great freakin trade.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: The fact that we such a bad team and we are $13 million in dead cap space is all I'm talking about. I don't care about credibility. Being a bad team is why we are in the red. We just cleaned house. Next year we'll have a ton of space and no more dead money. What we do with it is the big question. Who gets to spend that money is the next question. If McCown loses us a high draft pick and Mac starts contract negotiations Woody better fly his ass back home to fire him in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Joewilly, that chart says we have 26m in cap space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: So we should basically forfeit our second round pick every year and not even pick anybody. OK we could use it to move up in the first or down into the 3rd and 4th maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 We need extra 2nd rounders so we can add to our trade up capital for next year in case we screw up the tank job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Darryl Slater @DarrylSlater Jermaine Kearse's contract runs through 2018. No more guaranteed money left. Salaries: $2.2M in 2017, $5M in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Just now, C Mart said: Darryl Slater @DarrylSlater Jermaine Kearse's contract runs through 2018. No more guaranteed money left. Salaries: $2.2M in 2017, $5M in 2018. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: We need extra 2nd rounders so we can add to our trade up capital for next year in case we screw up the tank job. The problem is, if we screw up the tank, I don't think the teams ahead of us will be interested in moving. You think the Bills or Jags or 49ers are giving up the pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: According to overthecap.com, the Jets will be saddled with $8 million in dead money as a result of the deal with zero savings. Add $5 million for Ryan Fitzpatrick $13 million dead money Mike Maccagnan is a bad GM That's not how it works. Seattle picked up Richardson's contract with the trade, the Jets pick up Kearse's. The net result is $5.8M in cap savings for the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Just now, gEYno said: The problem is, if we screw up the tank, I don't think the teams ahead of us will be interested in moving. You think the Bills or Jags or 49ers are giving up the pick? The Ricky Williams trade proved any price is possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: We need extra 2nd rounders so we can add to our trade up capital for next year in case we screw up the tank job. We'll use that 2nd on Jake Browning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: The Ricky Williams trade proved any price is possible Good thing there's at least 4 potential franchise QBs in this draft got wrong quote somehow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 He would have walked away for nothing after a 4 win season, lol, and we still have people complaining? I don't get this fan base, Sheldon Richardson is a bad influence on a rebuilding young team. He's a tremendous football player but a complete jerk! A guy like Belichick would probably have cut him after his 120 MPH fun ride, smoking weed with a 12 year old in the car. Good riddance, we would have sucked with him or without him. Keep your eye on the prize Jet fans & that's a QB in the 2018 draft! Rudolph looked pretty f*cking good man! There's a few guys to watch this year & let's hope we get a shot at one of them. That 2nd could be huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 This was a great trade. We were never keeping Richardson after this year, Mac just turned a would be free agent who we may or may not have got a (third round at best) comp pick for into a second rounder. AND a WR who might help us. This is a winner, I never thought something like this could be pulled off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynolds1029 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 minute ago, gEYno said: The problem is, if we screw up the tank, I don't think the teams ahead of us will be interested in moving. You think the Bills or Jags or 49ers are giving up the pick? It's impossible to screw up the tank. If Woody is all for it (which none of these clean house moves on the roster would have been done if he wasn't) then it WILL happen. He will fire Bowles and hire Kotite for the season if we win more than 2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, Beerfish said: We need extra 2nd rounders so we can add to our trade up capital for next year in case we screw up the tank job. and if we don't screw it up we need the extra picks to give our franchise guy someone to throw the ball to and someone to run the ball...and an offensive line...maybe a tight end...we have anyone else worth a pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Just now, bealeb319 said: and if we don't screw it up we need the extra picks to give our franchise guy someone to throw the ball to and someone to run the ball...and an offensive line...maybe a tight end...we have anyone else worth a pick? Next year's class is incredibly deep, not just at QB. If we don't screw up the tank, we have a chance to rectify the Idzik 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 IT'S OFFICIAL THE JETS MADE A GREAT TRADE: Manish MehtaVerified account @MMehtaNYDN 2m2 minutes ago More Dumb trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 35 minutes ago, Stark said: He's only failed 1 test, so i would guess he wouldn't start failing them now. No matter now Actually he's failed 4, that's why he's facing 10 games next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Ian Rapoport @RapSheet Sheldon Richardson had opportunities to be traded previously, but would not redo his contract. Now, he gets full $8M & play in #Seahawks D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Reynolds1029 said: It's impossible to screw up the tank. If Woody is all for it (which none of these clean house moves on the roster would have been done if he wasn't) then it WILL happen. He will fire Bowles and hire Kotite for the season if we win more than 2 games. I is certainly not impossible to screw up the tank. Go back and watch the last 3 games from 2014. You never heard NY jets select Marcus Marioto did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Just now, C Mart said: Ian Rapoport @RapSheet Sheldon Richardson had opportunities to be traded previously, but would not redo his contract. Now, he gets full $8M & play in #Seahawks D. I really think that the reason why Jermaine Kearse was in the deal was $$$ for Seattle (plus our obvious need for an experienced WR). By taking Kearse in addition to the 2 -- it cleared $2MM cap space for Seattle so there was no need for Sheldon to redo his contract. Deal makes sense for both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Well if Mehta hates it, it's a good trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I wish people could look at this trade in a vacuum instead of being a deal Mac made. People are so far in their corner of either liking Mac or hating his guts that it's skewing their viewpoint... This happens with everything in life. Sports, politics... We paint ourselves so far into a corner with a viewpoint that we defend it to the death before we'll let ourselves view it rationally. Anyway. Pretty good deal I would say. I give it a B+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: IT'S OFFICIAL THE JETS MADE A GREAT TRADE: Manish MehtaVerified account @MMehtaNYDN 2m2 minutes ago More Dumb trade. Manish is such a douche. He isn't even trying with that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Mac still sucks hard but this is a good trade. I would have been content with a fourth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smaxor5 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 You know what's really entertaining? Reading all the posts on the 1st page of this thread trashing Macc for trading Sheldon for peanuts. This fanbase is "battered wife" syndrome in a nutshell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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