legler82 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Paradis said: Falk has the stink of Brady all over him... and I like it. That's precisely why I don't like him...he reminds me of the person I hate most in this world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legler82 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 28 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: ...also need to give Mason Rudolph more look... Mason throws with good timing and anticipation. I question his arm strength; he tends to but too much air in his deep balls. He should be a good fit for a WCO team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Darnold, or bust boys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legler82 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Just now, Lupz27 said: Darnold, or [Stidham] boys! Fixed it for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 that was a horrible throw on third down by Allen. Getting killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Josh Allen ain't the guy .. suck for Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Yikes, Allen looked rough this game outside the 1st Quarter. Nail in the coffin being that terribad pick 6 I just witnessed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Allen with a Geno pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Great thread. Will be following along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Allen is insanely rattled. This is the best defense he will play all year by a country mile, and his supporting cast is piss poor, but he has not looked good. Which is fine by me, Iowa D is swarming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Ugh, Sanchez Esque pick on the screen for Allen. His star will rise again when they play the MWC schedule, but he took a real shot today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I don't know. There hasn't been insane pressure and he is still making terrible decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 They are trying too hard to force him into the same mold as Wentz since they play for the same coach. Not really a fair comparison imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 CollegeFootball 24/7 (@NFL_CFB) 9/2/17, 3:01 PM Josh Allen in 2 career games vs. Power 5 teams (Nebraska, 2016; Iowa today): 39 of 72 (54 percent), 1 TD, 7 INTs. Although his WR dropped a sure TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, C Mart said: CollegeFootball 24/7 (@NFL_CFB) 9/2/17, 3:01 PM Josh Allen in 2 career games vs. Power 5 teams (Nebraska, 2016; Iowa today): 39 of 72 (54 percent), 1 TD, 7 INTs. Although his WR dropped a sure TD. The question becomes is this because of him or his supporting cast, or a combo of both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Just now, Andrej The Giant said: The question becomes is this because of him or his supporting cast, or a combo of both? You can see the talent but IMO he's going to need work/time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Waiting for darnold at 5...sure hope he looks better then Allen.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Darnold/Rosen are the clear top two picks for QB at least as of right now. Allen is a step below. I haven't seen Stigham but I feel the the same would apply. Folk, Jackson and the Okie State QB as well. Alternative scenario: Kirk Cousins becomes a free agent after this season. Would it be worth paying him big and instead using the Jets' (presumably) favorable draft position to find young talent at other positions? It's not like they don't have holes everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Forgot Browning. He's another Kellen Moore. Smart guy with a weak arm that looks much better because he has good WRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Darnold/Rosen are the clear top two picks for QB at least as of right now. Allen is a step below. I haven't seen Stigham but I feel the the same would apply. Folk, Jackson and the Okie State QB as well. Alternative scenario: Kirk Cousins becomes a free agent after this season. Would it be worth paying him big and instead using the Jets' (presumably) favorable draft position to find young talent at other positions? It's not like they don't have holes everywhere. I have always like cousins ... he's a lot like Kenny O'brien but more elusive in he pocket.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 After 1 quarter, Rosen, and the rest of UCLA, not looking so hot. It'll be interesting to see how he responds to such a Jet-like start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Darnold didn't look too hot yesterday either. will be interesting to see how they progress once they get into the meat of the schedule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 After watching a full weekend of football it may be time to go after Jimmy G (kidding). But seriously...i know the supporting cast in UCLA and Wyoming blows but its not like we have Andre Johnson and Dez Bryant at receiver. None of the QB’s looked capable of lifting a franchise based on week 1. The 4 names that stood out... Rudolph Falk Lee Mayfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan24 Posted September 4, 2017 Author Share Posted September 4, 2017 Still like Josh Allen....call me crazy. No help vs Iowa.... look at Rosen vs A&M. No chance. Guarantee put Allen on UCLA he makes more plays tonight Btw Kevin Sumlin great coach......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Will Grier might be a guy worth keeping an eye on too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Can anyone give a review of Rosen from last night (I didnt watch the second half comeback). I watched the highlights and have read that he was "on fire, etc" however the highlights show that he threw 2 VERY interceptable passes that happen to be TDs. Did he look great otherwise? Just curious how he actually played. As an aside, I really like Luke Falk, as we have seen with Hack you can't teach accuracy and Falk has that plus the work ethic/character to be a team leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 is there a way to rewatch the rosen game ?Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 6 hours ago, Dunnie said: is there a way to rewatch the rosen game ? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Found this on Youtube -- appears to be the full game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfansince7 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Rosen played well. Darn old managed a win. Allen had no help from his supporting cast. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 On 9/3/2017 at 8:22 PM, Titan24 said: Still like Josh Allen....call me crazy. No help vs Iowa.... look at Rosen vs A&M. No chance. Guarantee put Allen on UCLA he makes more plays tonight Btw Kevin Sumlin great coach......... Allen needs to have a season of a very high completion percentage for me. He is just too much like Jack Locker when it comes to his %. Completion % is one thing that doesn't tend to get better from College to NFL. He also doesn't look like he has the "it" factor, seemed lost, rattled and had no confidence. Didn't look like a guy that would take over a game, not a trait you don't want to have. Rosen was much more impressive from that standpoint to me than Allen. Put Allen on UCLA and what, they don't come back? Maybe they do, but I hate that argument, put "so and so" on this team and judge them. No, sorry, I will judge them for where they are playing and what they appear to be doing or not doing. I allow for the different levels of players skills (weak teams vs strong teams)still didn't like what I saw from Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 On 9/2/2017 at 1:28 PM, Lupz27 said: Same was said about Mark Sanchez how did that work out? Rosen was TERRIBLE last year! And that's not counting the fact he is a locker room cancer. Falk I need to watch more of so I can't give my opinion, hopefully your right the more talented QB's in this draft the better, also need to give Mason Rudolph more look. Lamar Jackson is a huge wild card pro scouts are really starting to leak out info that they are liking what they see from him, and that he will be a top 5 pick, but I don't see it he has a lot to work on IMO before being Mike Vick 2.0. Terrible? He only played 6 games before he was injured 59.3% for 1915 yards with 10 TD and 5 Int (3 were in the first game). How is that Terrible? Locker Room Cancer? He's the F'n QB! All of the great QBs are dickheads -- with the exception of Peyton (who would have won more SBs if he wasn't such a nice guy). And I didn't notice any of Rosen's teammates giving up on him when UCLA was being blown out by A&M. BTW, the Jets won their only Superbowl with a locker room cancer under center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 I saw something about UCLA's comeback and watched a relay of the game, saw the 2nd half I like Rosens delivery, but don't love it. I was taught the namath/manning delivery of throwing from your ear. don't get why so many of these college QB's make the first motion going DOWN. so stupid Rosen also didn't step into his throws. reminded me of a girl playing softball to be honest, wide stance and no step this is a very small sample, but something I will watch when I can otherwise liked his touch and timing overall touch is very under rated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 On 9/3/2017 at 6:22 PM, Titan24 said: Still like Josh Allen....call me crazy. No help vs Iowa.... look at Rosen vs A&M. No chance. Guarantee put Allen on UCLA he makes more plays tonight Btw Kevin Sumlin great coach......... I'm gonna say it, if Allen was down 44-10, everything else being the same, there's no way he brings the team back the way Rosen did. Don't care about dropped INTs. That's every QB ever when they have to throw it 30 times in a quarter playing 30+ behind. No way Allen pulls out that W... that's the difference between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 7 hours ago, Paradis said: I'm gonna say it, if Allen was down 44-10, everything else being the same, there's no way he brings the team back the way Rosen did. Don't care about dropped INTs. That's every QB ever when they have to throw it 30 times in a quarter playing 30+ behind. No way Allen pulls out that W... that's the difference between the two. This got me thinking that the Jets really have to consider a players personality. Playing QB in NY is simply not the same thing as playing QB in just about every other city. You need a guy who will embrace the spot light, or at least understand how to deal with it. Rosen seems like he wants to be "the" guy. Darnold is an interesting study on this point. His free spirit surfer dude persona profiled in every article about his personal life and upbringing is at odds with how he appears on the field -- stoic and unemotional. I just don't know how he would react to the NY media scrutiny. I hope the Jets hire a sports psychologist to help them choose their QB in next year's draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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