Sarge4Tide Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 What grade do you give the Jets and Seahawks for the trade that sent DL Sheldon Richardson to the Seahawks for a 2nd round draft pick and WR Jermaine Kearse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Jets D, Hawks B Jets lose a legit talent because they mismanaged and disgruntled him and overdrafted his position. Should never have got to this point, and we should have, I don't know, maybe a decent QB instead of Wilk, Sheldon AND Williams all drafted high at the same position. Jets gain a nobody #3 WR and a 2nd Round Pick Macc will likely waste on another DLineman or maybe a 12th Safety. Now we get to see if Sheldon, who isn;t my favorite Jet by any stretch, goes on to have a great post-Jets career (Like Abe). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Both Bs. The Wilk signing was C-. Should've let him go and signed Sheldon. But since Wilk was signed for 17mil per, smh, Sheldon had to go. And this was a decent trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocajetfan Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 B for both teams. Could become A if Jets are able to draft a productive player. A for Seattle if Richardson becomes more than a rental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, Warfish said: Jets D, Hawks B Jets lose a legit talent because they mismanaged and disgruntled him and overdrafted his position. Should never have got to this point, and we should have, I don't know, maybe a decent QB instead of Wilk, Sheldon AND Williams all drafted high at the same position. Jets gain a nobody #3 WR and a 2nd Round Pick Macc will likely waste on another DLineman or maybe a 12th Safety. Now we get to see if Sheldon, who isn;t my favorite Jet by any stretch, goes on to have a great post-Jets career (Like Abe). I'm shocked that the Jets got a 2nd rounder for this guy after they did their best destroying his value. Seattle knows what they're doing. He's a really good fit in that defense. The Jets will find out quickly that it was a mistake keeping Wilkerson over this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocajetfan Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, Warfish said: Jets D, Hawks B Jets lose a legit talent because they mismanaged and disgruntled him and overdrafted his position. Should never have got to this point, and we should have, I don't know, maybe a decent QB instead of Wilk, Sheldon AND Williams all drafted high at the same position. Jets gain a nobody #3 WR and a 2nd Round Pick Macc will likely waste on another DLineman or maybe a 12th Safety. Now we get to see if Sheldon, who isn;t my favorite Jet by any stretch, goes on to have a great post-Jets career (Like Abe). The mis management of the wilk contract I believe is a direct result of Richardsons off field issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Jets ASheldon proved to be a cancer. To get a 2nd round pick for him is amazing. You don't usually get a high pick like that unless it's a Qb. I was expecting a 4 or 5, similar to what we gave up for B. Marshall Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I don't like this however if it helps us get a QB... I may feel better than Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 A for the Jets and B (I wanna say B+) for the Hawks. The Jets essentially pulled a rabbit out of their hat by trading a player with character issues who was as good as gone in a few months time. I still don't know how Mac managed to get a second rounder of all things from this. The only downside for Seattle is that they lost a fairly high piece of draft capital. Doesn't mean much though as they're obviously all in on this season and I think Shell is a better fit on that team then he would have been here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan24 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Richardson was never going to be re-signed. By this regime or the next. Get what you can. Argument could be made he plays out of his mind and could have gotten more in a few weeks? Maybe...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 A++++The Jets jettison a malcontent one puff away from a season long suspension. A guy that willdemand to be the highest paid DE next year. A guy that has repeatedly bucked the establishment for his own benefit and put himself before the team. They did this and received a 2nd round pick and a starting quality WR. Absolutely an A+++++Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I gave us a B and Seattle an A. That A is based on his potential. From their point of view it was worth the 2nd round pick plus they wanted to get rid of Kearse. The Jets did ok because Sheldon is a FA next year and has been at odds with management for several years. And we can use Kearse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I gave both of the teams an A. The Jets received an established WR and a high draft pick when most "experts" didn't think they could get more than a third or fourth. Seattle traded from a strength, WR, and got a top notch defensive lineman for what they hope to be a title run. This is a win win in my opinion. It is important that the second round pick is used properly of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Hawks gave up a second for a weed addict who will walk to the highest bidder at years end. C at best. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 57 minutes ago, DetroitRed said: Jets A Sheldon proved to be a cancer. To get a 2nd round pick for him is amazing. You don't usually get a high pick like that unless it's a Qb. I was expecting a 4 or 5, similar to what we gave up for B. Marshall Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app This. Man, I cannot believe there are so many Sheldon fans now. Does everyone remember "Eff dis game where da hoes at"? Or Driving at 400 mph with weed and a kid in his car? Total cancer & underachiever who thinks he is better than he is and I for one am glad he is gone. Would have been a miserable contract negotiation had they kept him. The fact that we managed to get a WR and a #2 is gravy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 A++ for the Jets. This is a tank year. We get future high draft pick value and cap money. We also get a player who can help the Qbs develop in this system. A for the Seahawks. They are getting older. This could be their year. Set Richardson loose with good players around him motivated for a new contract. Its really a great deal for both sides. Nothing would make me happier than if the Jets tanked and the Seahawks won the SuperBowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Your team just got appreciably worse by holding a fire sale for a player that steamrolled the weak head coach and teabagged the halfwit GM. This trade is the equivalent of getting $50 at the recycling plant for the Ferrari you just totaled because you were playing Candy Crush while doing 95 MPH on the autobahn. "Hey, I got $50 for that worthless piece of steel that was worth $150k ten minutes ago!" Dopes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Incomplete until we see what Richardson does vs what Kearse does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 The Jets get a C. It really depends on who is making the pick in 2018. The swapping of the 7ths is whatever. Kearse is a below average receiver so he'll fit right in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Your team just got appreciably worse by holding a fire sale for a player that steamrolled the weak head coach and teabagged the halfwit GM. This trade is the equivalent of getting $50 at the recycling plant for the Ferrari you just totaled because you were playing Candy Crush while doing 95 MPH on the autobahn. "Hey, I got $50 for that worthless piece of steel that was worth $150k ten minutes ago!" Dopes. More like we let them rent a Ferrari with nothing wrong with it for one year except that at any moment it could take a puff of weed or skip a game in search of "hoes" has to be diciplined for showing up late and at the end of the year is going to demand that you pay it 25 million dollars per year in order to keep driving it and they gave us a bag of trash with some usable crap left inside plus a second round draft pick?Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, bealeb319 said: More like we let them rent a Ferrari with nothing wrong with it for one year except that at any moment it could take a puff of weed or skip a game in search of "hoes" has to be diciplined for showing up late and at the end of the year is going to demand that you pay it 25 million dollars per year in order to keep driving it and they gave us a bag of trash with some usable crap left inside plus a second round draft pick? Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Do you bealeb in love after love? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Woody Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Never thought we'd get anything for that fat slob. A+ for the Jets. Seattle gets an F unless they are able to resign him. Giving away a 2nd round pick on a player rental is beyond dumb. If they do resign him, the grade goes up. If he gets paid and then gets a year suspension, it goes back down. Whatever. Good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 26 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Your team just got appreciably worse by holding a fire sale for a player that steamrolled the weak head coach and teabagged the halfwit GM. This trade is the equivalent of getting $50 at the recycling plant for the Ferrari you just totaled because you were playing Candy Crush while doing 95 MPH on the autobahn. "Hey, I got $50 for that worthless piece of steel that was worth $150k ten minutes ago!" Dopes. Yeah, but it could've been $25 dollars, so... Big success! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 14 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Incomplete until we see what Richardson does vs what Kearse does. lolkay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin L Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 32 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Your team just got appreciably worse by holding a fire sale for a player that steamrolled the weak head coach and teabagged the halfwit GM. This trade is the equivalent of getting $50 at the recycling plant for the Ferrari you just totaled because you were playing Candy Crush while doing 95 MPH on the autobahn. "Hey, I got $50 for that worthless piece of steel that was worth $150k ten minutes ago!" Dopes. Except the Ferrari is more like a Miata and is 1 blown cylinder from being stashed in the garage for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Warfish said: Jets D, Hawks B Jets lose a legit talent because they mismanaged and disgruntled him and overdrafted his position. Should never have got to this point, and we should have, I don't know, maybe a decent QB instead of Wilk, Sheldon AND Williams all drafted high at the same position. Jets gain a nobody #3 WR and a 2nd Round Pick Macc will likely waste on another DLineman or maybe a 12th Safety. Now we get to see if Sheldon, who isn;t my favorite Jet by any stretch, goes on to have a great post-Jets career (Like Abe). For someone who fancies himself a keen observer your lack of awareness about this situation is startling. Sheldon is a loud-mouthed malcontent who has repeatedly said his main goal is the monster pay day. He's either incapable or unwilling of following instruction as evidenced by his numerous swipes at Marshall this year despite Bowles implicitly telling him to refrain from it. He's a man baby, me first, money trumps all guy who does nothing for the culture that management is trying to cultivate. There was no way in hell the Jets were going to pay him anywhere near what he wanted (that money is for Leo) so it behooved them to get as much as they could rather than let him walk for nothing. Despite the fact that everyone in the NFL knew the above, Macc was able to get a competent veteran receiver and a 2nd round pick which might be used as ammunition to move up in the first round if necessary. That haul should be COMMENDED. p.s. trading Abe is what allowed us to get a potential HOF center named Nick Mangold. You know - your favorite Jet ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 B for us, who thought we'd get a 2nd for him? I sure didn't. A+ for Seattle, probably NFC favorites now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I gave the Jets an A because it won't be Mike Macagnan making the 2nd round selection next season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Jets get a D and Seattle gets an A. Seattle's 2nd round pick is more like a top of the 3rd round pick. Richardson was the best football player on the Jets, only 26 years old. Very bad deal IMO. If they were going to trade with Seattle, then only a 1st round pick would have been fair. Wilkerson has not shown me much this preseason, and Richardson has shown a lot. I would have been happier if we traded Wilkerson for a 2nd round pick, but Seattle would have never made that trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson King Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Better return than expected for an addition by subtraction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 10 minutes ago, Alka said: Richardson was the best football player on the Jets, only 26 years old. Very bad deal IMO. If they were going to trade with Seattle, then only a 1st round pick would have been fair. 10 minutes ago, Alka said: I would have been happier if we traded Wilkerson for a 2nd round pick, but Seattle would have never made that trade. Irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Take the trade for the value that it is today. Don't factor in the Mo signing or how things have been mishandled by management. This is is probably an "A "trade because I couldn't imagine getting a 2 at this point plus an average wr who actually becomes our #1Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: Incomplete until we see what Richardson does vs what Kearse does. That's not even remotely close to being the ultimate test for grading this trade. The trade was for the 2nd rounder. Not Kearse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Your team just got appreciably worse by holding a fire sale for a player that steamrolled the weak head coach and teabagged the halfwit GM. This trade is the equivalent of getting $50 at the recycling plant for the Ferrari you just totaled because you were playing Candy Crush while doing 95 MPH on the autobahn. "Hey, I got $50 for that worthless piece of steel that was worth $150k ten minutes ago!" Dopes. Yeah no sh*t the Jets mismanaged the contracts and the need to draft every Dlineman - but that cat was already out of the bag - should they have just continued pouring bad money after all these Dlineman. They took a step to fix that situation , I can't understand all the revisionist history here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: Yeah no sh*t the Jets mismanaged the contracts and the need to draft every Dlineman - but that cat was already out of the bag - should they have just continued pouring bad money after all these Dlineman. They took a step to fix that situation , I can't understand all the revisionist history here. If a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it, does it make a sound . Maybe you're enjoying this banter and if so please forgive this intrusion . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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