KRL Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheet Follow More Sources: #Browns are expected to release S Calvin Pryor just a few days before the opener after a fight with a teammate before practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJ37/12 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 smart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted September 7, 2017 Author Share Posted September 7, 2017 The locker room must've been toxic with Geno Smith, Enemkpali, Pryor etc... in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Thanks Izdick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 "I want the guy that'll knock your head in." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 So they eat his contract.....well done Mac.....wonder if Pryor was one of the known cancers here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I think we're starting to see the real reason behind the roster purge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papz187 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 What a waste of a pickSent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Its not like Idzik drafted guys who didnt become stars, but were decent or average NFL players for a few years - these guys arent even in the league Our first and second round picks have now been waived by their respective teams, neither 4th round WR is in the league, and jermiah george is barely on a team. To say Mac is entirely at fault for this roster is absurd. 12 picks and one quality player (Enunwa) is an abomination that has likely never been seen in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I TOLD YOU SO!!! That he would be out of the league in 3 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harts724 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Sign the BEAST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, BCJet said: Its not like Idzik drafted guys who didnt become stars, but were decent or average NFL players for a few years - these guys arent even in the league Our first and second round picks have now been waived by their respective teams, neither 4th round WR is in the league, and jermiah george is barely on a team. To say Mac is entirely at fault for this roster is absurd. 12 picks and one quality player (Enunwa) is an abomination that has likely never been seen in the NFL Bad players (Milliner/Amaro) mixed with bad players that had bad attitudes (Geno/IK/Pryor) mixed with one good player who also had a bad attitude (Richardson) and you understand why this team is as bad as it is today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 1 minute ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Bad players (Milliner/Amaro) mixed with bad players that had bad attitudes (Geno/IK/Pryor) mixed with one good player who also had a bad attitude (Richardson) and you understand why this team is as bad as it is today. it was a very tough task to inherit a team that had so many bad drafts, as well as too many bad apples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 haha, man we had to have had the absolute worst possible draft in the history of drafts that year. if not the worst one of the worst especially when considering we had 12 picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said: So they eat his contract.....well done Mac.....wonder if Pryor was one of the known cancers here. I have a theory that there were a couple things at play, I break it down like this: a group of veteran offensive players conspired and circumvented the head coach in soliciting the GM to bring back Fitzpatrick, this group included Mangold, Decker, Marshall and several others, including Bryce Petty the head coach tolerated it, because it suited his agenda at the time - to bring back Fitz when Fitz sucked, the head coach tried to bench him and that same group basically over-ruled the head coach at which point the head coach realized he had not only lost the locker room, but has been usurped the defense, led most likely by vocal players like Sheldon and Pryor (since the high earners like Revis and Mo Wilk were mute), opposed the lobbying for Fitz, because they didn't want to give up their season the head coach realized he had a rift that he couldn't fix, because it involved too much of the team - and he doesn't have the social capacity to bring people together team nose-dives new season, proponents from both opposing contingencies are purged from the roster fans call this "an actual rebuild" what's actually happening is that the GM is helping the HC rid the team of anyone on the team that can take the room away from him every veteran player on offense that lobbied for Fitz is gone Bryce Petty is penalized for his support of that group by being given an unfair chance at competing with Hackenturd every veteran defensive player that worsened the divide, also gone Jets present the season as a "tank", when reality is that rebuild started 3 years ago - and was disrupted NOT by 1st year success, but by internal politics this season is really about level-setting the locker room hierarchy, more than it is about "sucking for Sam" or a "youth movement" this is about over-promoted leadership not having a better plan for how to regain control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 20 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said: So they eat his contract.....well done Mac.....wonder if Pryor was one of the known cancers here. The fact that he was probably the worst safety in the league might have had more to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Seemed like a nice guy, hope he moves on to some good things in life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 17 minutes ago, BCJet said: Its not like Idzik drafted guys who didnt become stars, but were decent or average NFL players for a few years - these guys arent even in the league Our first and second round picks have now been waived by their respective teams, neither 4th round WR is in the league, and jermiah george is barely on a team. To say Mac is entirely at fault for this roster is absurd. 12 picks and one quality player (Enunwa) is an abomination that has likely never been seen in the NFL No one says Mac is entirely at fault for the roster. However, Mac is at fault for the fact that going into his 3rd season, the roster isn't meaningfully better than it was when he got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LIJetsFan Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I have a theory that there were a couple things at play, I break it down like this: a group of veteran offensive players conspired and circumvented the head coach in soliciting the GM to bring back Fitzpatrick, this group included Mangold, Decker, Marshall and several others, including Bryce Petty the head coach tolerated it, because it suited his agenda at the time - to bring back Fitz when Fitz sucked, the head coach tried to bench him and that same group basically over-ruled the head coach at which point the head coach realized he had not only lost the locker room, but has been usurped the defense, led most likely by vocal players like Sheldon and Pryor (since the high earners like Revis and Mo Wilk were mute), opposed the lobbying for Fitz, because they didn't want to give up their season the head coach realized he had a rift that he couldn't fix, because it involved too much of the team - and he doesn't have the social capacity to bring people together team nose-dives new season, proponents from both opposing contingencies are purged from the roster fans call this "an actual rebuild" what's actually happening is that the GM is helping the HC rid the team of anyone on the team that can take the room away from him every veteran player on offense that lobbied for Fitz is gone Bryce Petty is penalized for his support of that group by being given an unfair chance at competing with Hackenturd every veteran defensive player that worsened the divide, also gone Jets present the season as a "tank", when reality is that rebuild started 3 years ago - and was disrupted NOT by 1st year success, but by internal politics this season is really about level-setting the locker room hierarchy, more than it is about "sucking for Sam" or a "youth movement" this is about over-promoted leadership not having a better plan for how to regain control Very nice post and I'd venture to guess at least 60-70% correct. Not bad for a Jets fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, Beerfish said: This picture gets more Stephen Kingish with each passing year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 17 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I have a theory that there were a couple things at play, I break it down like this: a group of veteran offensive players conspired and circumvented the head coach in soliciting the GM to bring back Fitzpatrick, this group included Mangold, Decker, Marshall and several others, including Bryce Petty the head coach tolerated it, because it suited his agenda at the time - to bring back Fitz when Fitz sucked, the head coach tried to bench him and that same group basically over-ruled the head coach at which point the head coach realized he had not only lost the locker room, but has been usurped the defense, led most likely by vocal players like Sheldon and Pryor (since the high earners like Revis and Mo Wilk were mute), opposed the lobbying for Fitz, because they didn't want to give up their season the head coach realized he had a rift that he couldn't fix, because it involved too much of the team - and he doesn't have the social capacity to bring people together team nose-dives new season, proponents from both opposing contingencies are purged from the roster fans call this "an actual rebuild" what's actually happening is that the GM is helping the HC rid the team of anyone on the team that can take the room away from him every veteran player on offense that lobbied for Fitz is gone Bryce Petty is penalized for his support of that group by being given an unfair chance at competing with Hackenturd every veteran defensive player that worsened the divide, also gone Jets present the season as a "tank", when reality is that rebuild started 3 years ago - and was disrupted NOT by 1st year success, but by internal politics this season is really about level-setting the locker room hierarchy, more than it is about "sucking for Sam" or a "youth movement" this is about over-promoted leadership not having a better plan for how to regain control arguably the most interesting point here is that petty was punished, since he's the only guy left after the purge, who was "allegedly" in one of these factions. since we have seen bowles play favorites here, petty's treatment this preseason is not inconsistent with bowles' prior agendas. also, i wonder if bringing back kerley somehow relates to evening out the lockerroom, since he was essentially purged by the pro-fitz camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 29 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I have a theory that there were a couple things at play, I break it down like this: a group of veteran offensive players conspired and circumvented the head coach in soliciting the GM to bring back Fitzpatrick, this group included Mangold, Decker, Marshall and several others, including Bryce Petty the head coach tolerated it, because it suited his agenda at the time - to bring back Fitz when Fitz sucked, the head coach tried to bench him and that same group basically over-ruled the head coach at which point the head coach realized he had not only lost the locker room, but has been usurped the defense, led most likely by vocal players like Sheldon and Pryor (since the high earners like Revis and Mo Wilk were mute), opposed the lobbying for Fitz, because they didn't want to give up their season the head coach realized he had a rift that he couldn't fix, because it involved too much of the team - and he doesn't have the social capacity to bring people together team nose-dives new season, proponents from both opposing contingencies are purged from the roster fans call this "an actual rebuild" what's actually happening is that the GM is helping the HC rid the team of anyone on the team that can take the room away from him every veteran player on offense that lobbied for Fitz is gone Bryce Petty is penalized for his support of that group by being given an unfair chance at competing with Hackenturd every veteran defensive player that worsened the divide, also gone Jets present the season as a "tank", when reality is that rebuild started 3 years ago - and was disrupted NOT by 1st year success, but by internal politics this season is really about level-setting the locker room hierarchy, more than it is about "sucking for Sam" or a "youth movement" this is about over-promoted leadership not having a better plan for how to regain control Did you dig this up at Area 51? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 16 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I have a theory that there were a couple things at play, I break it down like this: a group of veteran offensive players conspired and circumvented the head coach in soliciting the GM to bring back Fitzpatrick, this group included Mangold, Decker, Marshall and several others, including Bryce Petty the head coach tolerated it, because it suited his agenda at the time - to bring back Fitz when Fitz sucked, the head coach tried to bench him and that same group basically over-ruled the head coach at which point the head coach realized he had not only lost the locker room, but has been usurped the defense, led most likely by vocal players like Sheldon and Pryor (since the high earners like Revis and Mo Wilk were mute), opposed the lobbying for Fitz, because they didn't want to give up their season the head coach realized he had a rift that he couldn't fix, because it involved too much of the team - and he doesn't have the social capacity to bring people together team nose-dives new season, proponents from both opposing contingencies are purged from the roster fans call this "an actual rebuild" what's actually happening is that the GM is helping the HC rid the team of anyone on the team that can take the room away from him every veteran player on offense that lobbied for Fitz is gone Bryce Petty is penalized for his support of that group by being given an unfair chance at competing with Hackenturd every veteran defensive player that worsened the divide, also gone Jets present the season as a "tank", when reality is that rebuild started 3 years ago - and was disrupted NOT by 1st year success, but by internal politics this season is really about level-setting the locker room hierarchy, more than it is about "sucking for Sam" or a "youth movement" this is about over-promoted leadership not having a better plan for how to regain control I definitely think there was some level of punitive treatment of Petty for aligning with (read: kissing ass of) pro-Fitz veterans he simply looked up to, and whose approval - if not popularity - he desperately wanted. Especially if Fitz was going to QB the team, help out his development, and keep the seat warm for Petty until he was fully ready (and that wasn't in the summer of 2016). I don't agree that there's no aspect of suck-for-____ going on here, otherwise they could have signed more (or better) new blood to replace the outgoing ones once the space was cleared. He took a flier on Claiborne, which was his best value move of the spring, considering the risk vs reward, and other than that he overpaid for Winters while bringing in 2 low-priced tackles that would be similarly great value if either pans out. Problem is if only 1 of them pans out it still cost the $ of both of them. Not much of an offseason for a team that's purging so many veterans -- far more than it needed to in order to get under the cap. Also wouldn't explain cutting Harris, Folk, and other innocent parties. Let alone trying to extend Brandon Marshall, trying to trade Forte who had nothing to do with the Fitz lobby, etc. If it was truly all about dumping everyone to compensate for Bowles, I don't think it would have taken much convincing to tell Woody he either has to fire Bowles, or cut so many and suffer through another terrible season with nothing to show for all the money he spent on these recently-signed veterans. But there's a lot of good stuff here, and I agree about the HC's ineptitude. It's like the only ones he can assert power over are low-priced players who have no clout or leverage. What a ****ing mess of incompetence all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 36 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I have a theory that there were a couple things at play, I break it down like this: a group of veteran offensive players conspired and circumvented the head coach in soliciting the GM to bring back Fitzpatrick, this group included Mangold, Decker, Marshall and several others, including Bryce Petty the head coach tolerated it, because it suited his agenda at the time - to bring back Fitz when Fitz sucked, the head coach tried to bench him and that same group basically over-ruled the head coach at which point the head coach realized he had not only lost the locker room, but has been usurped the defense, led most likely by vocal players like Sheldon and Pryor (since the high earners like Revis and Mo Wilk were mute), opposed the lobbying for Fitz, because they didn't want to give up their season the head coach realized he had a rift that he couldn't fix, because it involved too much of the team - and he doesn't have the social capacity to bring people together team nose-dives new season, proponents from both opposing contingencies are purged from the roster fans call this "an actual rebuild" what's actually happening is that the GM is helping the HC rid the team of anyone on the team that can take the room away from him every veteran player on offense that lobbied for Fitz is gone Bryce Petty is penalized for his support of that group by being given an unfair chance at competing with Hackenturd every veteran defensive player that worsened the divide, also gone Jets present the season as a "tank", when reality is that rebuild started 3 years ago - and was disrupted NOT by 1st year success, but by internal politics this season is really about level-setting the locker room hierarchy, more than it is about "sucking for Sam" or a "youth movement" this is about over-promoted leadership not having a better plan for how to regain control You're Alex Jones, Jesse Ventura, and Dr. Cornelius all rolled into one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 47 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I have a theory that there were a couple things at play, I break it down like this: a group of veteran offensive players conspired and circumvented the head coach in soliciting the GM to bring back Fitzpatrick, this group included Mangold, Decker, Marshall and several others, including Bryce Petty the head coach tolerated it, because it suited his agenda at the time - to bring back Fitz when Fitz sucked, the head coach tried to bench him and that same group basically over-ruled the head coach at which point the head coach realized he had not only lost the locker room, but has been usurped the defense, led most likely by vocal players like Sheldon and Pryor (since the high earners like Revis and Mo Wilk were mute), opposed the lobbying for Fitz, because they didn't want to give up their season the head coach realized he had a rift that he couldn't fix, because it involved too much of the team - and he doesn't have the social capacity to bring people together team nose-dives new season, proponents from both opposing contingencies are purged from the roster fans call this "an actual rebuild" what's actually happening is that the GM is helping the HC rid the team of anyone on the team that can take the room away from him every veteran player on offense that lobbied for Fitz is gone Bryce Petty is penalized for his support of that group by being given an unfair chance at competing with Hackenturd every veteran defensive player that worsened the divide, also gone Jets present the season as a "tank", when reality is that rebuild started 3 years ago - and was disrupted NOT by 1st year success, but by internal politics this season is really about level-setting the locker room hierarchy, more than it is about "sucking for Sam" or a "youth movement" this is about over-promoted leadership not having a better plan for how to regain control Smart post. No wonder they eventually take over the freaking planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I wonder if he could he is still happy where his career is now . lol if he was a good player he would never been cut over a fight . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 19 minutes ago, Lizard King said: Did you dig this up at Area 51? No @Mogglez provided the details ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Da Louisville sluggah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I admit I liked the pryor pick at the time... I bought into the "we need a hammer to cover the middle" dialogue... I thought he would really help negate the dink-and-dunk offenses that were (are) popular. Oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 1 hour ago, papz187 said: What a waste of a pick Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk We only passed on 14 probowl WRs for Pryor... money well spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Integrity28 said: Thanks Izdick. While Idzik actually made the pick, I would bet my life that Pryor was 100% Rex's choice. I would even venture to guess Idzik had no clue who Pryor even was. Pryor will be in uniform and ready next week for whomever NE plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 1 hour ago, KRL said: Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheet Follow More Sources: #Browns are expected to release S Calvin Pryor just a few days before the opener after a fight with a teammate before practice. sign the beast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Long Island Leprechaun said: This picture gets more Stephen Kingish with each passing year. I think that may have been when Idzik asked Manish was going to walk home from the practice facility when Manish bet the jets would not use all of their draft picks that year and would trade some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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