TheSage Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 4 minutes to go-reasonable distance for 1st down-down 2 scores and he punts??? Maybe I'm wrong but this seems to be another one of his lack of awareness on field. On a best case scenario- Buffalo goes 3 and out-punts and we get the ball with 3 minutes to go-no timeouts and we have to score and recover onsides then score again. Time for him to go back to being DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Dead man walking playing scared 0-16 and he's fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Dead man walking playing scared 0-16 and he's fired. If he goes 2-14 he deserves coach of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 23 minutes ago, TheSage said: 4 minutes to go-reasonable distance for 1st down-down 2 scores and he punts??? Maybe I'm wrong but this seems to be another one of his lack of awareness on field. On a best case scenario- Buffalo goes 3 and out-punts and we get the ball with 3 minutes to go-no timeouts and we have to score and recover onsides then score again. Time for him to go back to being DC. The Sage... thats an ELP tune on Pictures at an exhibition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Bowles is one of the last reasons that this team sucks....however its pretty astonishing he punts in these situations. The guy doesnt give a sh*t that he'll never be a HC again after this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOJ Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 27 minutes ago, TheSage said: 4 minutes to go-reasonable distance for 1st down-down 2 scores and he punts??? Maybe I'm wrong but this seems to be another one of his lack of awareness on field. On a best case scenario- Buffalo goes 3 and out-punts and we get the ball with 3 minutes to go-no timeouts and we have to score and recover onsides then score again. Time for him to go back to being DC. He actually said he thought the D could stop them .... in his post game comments. I mean he is delusional and totally inept as a HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Seems like converting 4th down there is maybe 15-20% and then you still need to stop and score again, so low ends to mount the comeback, but punting in that situation has to have a way lower overall win chance. Gutless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Back to being a DC? He's lucky if he gets a DB coaching gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 11 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Bowles is one of the last reasons that this team sucks....however its pretty astonishing he punts in these situations. The guy doesnt give a sh*t that he'll never be a HC again after this. Nope, pretty sure he is a major factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 I swear to God I just heard both Greg Buttle and Don Lagreca say, and I quote: "Todd Bowles is a good coach, there is little doubt about that". I almost drove my SUV into a bridge embankment on the Grand Central Parkway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, johnnysd said: Seems like converting 4th down there is maybe 15-20% and then you still need to stop and score again, so low ends to mount the comeback, but punting in that situation has to have a way lower overall win chance. Gutless How about if he had been in a hurry up for the previous 10 minutes? What if he had attempt to get into field goal range at the end of the half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 He went for 2 in the 3rd quarter. Its common knowledge you never go for 2 in the 3rd quarter unless its a blowout. It would only have bedn a one score game if he kicks the extra point in the 3rd. The guy is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 minute ago, NYs Stepchild said: How about if he had been in a hurry up for the previous 10 minutes? What if he had attempt to get into field goal range at the end of the half? Therein lies the problem; Bowles has slowed this team down to what he can understand. They are at best a college team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 3 hours ago, ASH1962 said: I swear to God I just heard both Greg Buttle and Don Lagreca say, and I quote: "Todd Bowles is a good coach, there is little doubt about that". I almost drove my SUV into a bridge embankment on the Grand Central Parkway. Greg Buttle used to be a favorite of mine not any longer he's clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, NYs Stepchild said: How about if he had been in a hurry up for the previous 10 minutes? What if he had attempt to get into field goal range at the end of the half? Yeah, 31 of 32 teams at least TRY a pass or 2 with 30 seconds and three time outs. Against the ZONE defense you WILL see in that situation you can literally run 8 plays. Didin't Sanchez score a winning TOUCHDOWN in a similar situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Just now, johnnysd said: Yeah, 31 of 32 teams at least TRY a pass or 2 with 30 seconds and three time outs. Against the ZONE defense you WILL see in that situation you can literally run 8 plays. Didin't Sanchez score a winning TOUCHDOWN in a similar situation. Yes nothing to lose everything to gain but not the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Joe W. Namath said: He went for 2 in the 3rd quarter. Its common knowledge you never go for 2 in the 3rd quarter unless its a blowout. It would only have bedn a one score game if he kicks the extra point in the 3rd. The guy is awful. That was SOOO dumb. You never chase that point in that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Just now, johnnysd said: Yeah, 31 of 32 teams at least TRY a pass or 2 with 30 seconds and three time outs. Against the ZONE defense you WILL see in that situation you can literally run 8 plays. Didin't Sanchez score a winning TOUCHDOWN in a similar situation. I know the Pats score at the end of almost every half. I know the Jets never do. It is impossible to score if you take a knee. That should be Bowles middle name. Todd "Take a knee" Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 15 minutes ago, ASH1962 said: I swear to God I just heard both Greg Buttle and Don Lagreca say, and I quote: "Todd Bowles is a good coach, there is little doubt about that". I almost drove my SUV into a bridge embankment on the Grand Central Parkway. Bowles is an "inside" football guy. Because he gets the nod of Arians and Parcells it is assumed he has a clue. He has none. Seriously, I could be a better game day HC than this loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: He went for 2 in the 3rd quarter. Its common knowledge you never go for 2 in the 3rd quarter unless its a blowout. It would only have bedn a one score game if he kicks the extra point in the 3rd. The guy is awful. With our offense I had no issue with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 So just to hammer home how absolutely clueless Todd Bowles is, this is what he said about punting: "We thought we could stop them and the the ball back. That simple" Holy hell. Seriously Todd? Todd you are down by 2 scores. You need to stop them not once but twice. TWICE as it one more than one. You have 4 minutes left. So basically to stop losing 2 minutes of clock you have to burn all three timeouts and stop 3 runs for less than 10 yards. Then score with no timeouts, and field an onsides kick, and then score again with no timeouts. If you go for it and make the first down you have a realistic chance of winning, but if you miss (and here is the big one you fuuucking idiot) THE SITUATION IS ALMOST THE SAME AS IF YOU HAD PUNTED, since they will not risk throwing and you still have 3 timeouts. So essentially, the 4th down try was FREE Bowles seriously does not understand the basics of game and time management. Just fire him tonight. Not joking. Between the McCLown decision, the Hack backup decision, the complete lack of game planning or adjustments and the punting decision it is not possible to in inverse "coach speech" to "give your team less chance to win" OMG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 It's a lot easier watch him coach this team knowing it's better when this team loses. Significantly less frustrating than it was last year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, johnnysd said: So just to hammer home how absolutely clueless Todd Bowles is, this is what he said about punting: "We thought we could stop them and the the ball back. That simple" Holy hell. Seriously Todd? Todd you are down by 2 scores. You need to stop them not once but twice. TWICE as it one more than one. You have 4 minutes left. So basically to stop losing 2 minutes of clock you have to burn all three timeouts and stop 3 runs for less than 10 yards. Then score with no timeouts, and field an onsides kick, and then score again with no timeouts. If you go for it and make the first down you have a realistic chance of winning, but if you miss (and here is the big one you fuuucking idiot) THE SITUATION IS ALMOST THE SAME AS IF YOU HAD PUNTED, since they will not risk throwing and you still have 3 timeouts. So essentially, the 4th down try was FREE Bowles seriously does not understand the basics of game and time management. Just fire him tonight. Not joking. Between the McCLown decision, the Hack backup decision, the complete lack of game planning or adjustments and the punting decision it is not possible to in inverse "coach speech" to "give your team less chance to win" OMG The punting down two scores is really fascinating. I just expect it now...for as much as these guys bullsh*t how grateful they are for these opportunities its amazing how little they give a sh*t. Have fun coaching Pelham JV next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 3 hours ago, TheSage said: 4 minutes to go-reasonable distance for 1st down-down 2 scores and he punts??? Maybe I'm wrong but this seems to be another one of his lack of awareness on field. On a best case scenario- Buffalo goes 3 and out-punts and we get the ball with 3 minutes to go-no timeouts and we have to score and recover onsides then score again. Time for him to go back to being DC. Before I opened this thread but saw the title, I thought it was about punting late 2 scores down. Sad that I was right. It makes absolutely no sense to me and I had no desire to watch the postgame to see if a reporter would ask him about it. It boggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Matt39 said: Bowles is one of the last reasons that this team sucks....however its pretty astonishing he punts in these situations. The guy doesnt give a sh*t that he'll never be a HC again after this. Completely agree with this. He's down on the totem pole in culpability, but it still boggles that he punts there. What is the logic in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Its annoying. I would have to think making a 7 yard pass is better odds than an entire scoring drive with 30 seconds to go and no timeouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 We're lucky to have Bowles. Without him, and this roster might eek out a win or two this year and miss out on the #1 pick in 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 34 minutes ago, johnnysd said: So just to hammer home how absolutely clueless Todd Bowles is, this is what he said about punting: "We thought we could stop them and the the ball back. That simple" Holy hell. Seriously Todd? Todd you are down by 2 scores. You need to stop them not once but twice. TWICE as it one more than one. You have 4 minutes left. So basically to stop losing 2 minutes of clock you have to burn all three timeouts and stop 3 runs for less than 10 yards. Then score with no timeouts, and field an onsides kick, and then score again with no timeouts. If you go for it and make the first down you have a realistic chance of winning, but if you miss (and here is the big one you fuuucking idiot) THE SITUATION IS ALMOST THE SAME AS IF YOU HAD PUNTED, since they will not risk throwing and you still have 3 timeouts. So essentially, the 4th down try was FREE Bowles seriously does not understand the basics of game and time management. Just fire him tonight. Not joking. Between the McCLown decision, the Hack backup decision, the complete lack of game planning or adjustments and the punting decision it is not possible to in inverse "coach speech" to "give your team less chance to win" OMG If he hadn't done the exact same thing last year I would have said he was on board with the tank. i.e. keep the game reasonably competitive but make sure they lose in the 4th. No need to win any extra games, especially vs. another team "building for the future". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Lol...Todd Bowles. Last year he's up 7-0 at home vs Bills, Bills are reeling, Jets are running the ball down their throats, he gets a 4th & 1/2 yard from a TD & he sends out Folk & the kick gets blocked, lol. Today, 3rd quarter isn't even over & in a 12-14 game goes for 2 to tie? I just shook my head & really could give two sh*ts at that point as I'm just wondering if it's Darnold or Rosen, but when we failed my face made that grinch smile smirk knowing every move this guy makes brings us closer to sending this Indian back to the front of a cigar store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 3 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Greg Buttle used to be a favorite of mine not any longer he's clueless. Get the sense he doesn't want to piss off Jets management by telling the truth. Being the pre, post and halftime guy is easy money. But his homerism is an embarrassment. Was all over the defense, but you aren't winning NFL games with this kind of offense. You're asking the defense to thread the needle every week, and under the NFL's rules that's crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionCA Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 next week will be a beat down of epic proportions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I would like an explanation from Bowles because it really doesn't make sense. Your team is down 2 scores late, which means your team has been pretty much outplayed in the game on both sides of the ball. What makes you think you can now stop them in a 3 and out without them killing the clock in order to get the ball back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 He is done, but Woody will have to come to grips that he is the one, with his consultants from the NFL, who hired Bowles and Mac, who have proven they are unfit for their jobs. I was looking for a couple of things today: Smart defensive scheme. Good coaching. The young players developing. Defense played hard but continued to give up the big play like last year. Why was Davis covering TEs? We know he can't do that. That is what Lee and the safeties are supposed to be doing. Bowles is so cooked at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 4 hours ago, TheSage said: 4 minutes to go-reasonable distance for 1st down-down 2 scores and he punts??? Maybe I'm wrong but this seems to be another one of his lack of awareness on field. On a best case scenario- Buffalo goes 3 and out-punts and we get the ball with 3 minutes to go-no timeouts and we have to score and recover onsides then score again. Time for him to go back to being DC. When asked he seems unfazed by the question in the post game presser. He gives the usual unemotional reply like there is no other option. Duh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 If this was a picture of Todd Bowles, former NFL Player and respected defensive coordinator who was the current Head Coach of the New York Jets and nothing else was different, no game result, no coaching decision.....nothing else..... Then he would be the absolute laughingstock of the NFL, a punchline of a joke with editorial cartoons depicting him as a clown. But hes untouchable. So get used to it. Hes got at least 2 years before he gets fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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