LionelRichie Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 There are literally no blue chip prospects on this roster and there is a perpetually dysfunctional reporting relationship where HC and GM both report to the owner. I can see the failed retreads lining up but I don't see a premiere candidate taking over this dumpster fire when other, better positions will be available. Harbaugh is pipe dream, Gruden is a broadcaster - although his brother may be available. Not sure there will be many options who would want this gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 The OC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 It will be hard to get someone with a future to sign up for this until Woody gives up control. Woody will try and get someone to do it for the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 No real HC is coming here if Macagnan is still the GM. IF Mac somehow survives this sh_thole he created this year he'll hire some garbage assistant or promote Morton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 minute ago, RutgersJetFan said: Only way Gruden comes here is if he also gets to be GM or at least pick his own GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Only way Gruden comes here is if he also gets to be GM or at least pick his own GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 A top pick and 100 mil in cap space will help bring in someone if they have draft and free agency control. It'd be like letting the coach build whatever they wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: F*cking dead hahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Philc1 said: No real HC is coming here if Macagnan is still the GM. IF Mac somehow survives this sh_thole he created this year he'll hire some garbage assistant or promote Morton. ...or Bowles will return. If Maccagnan does have immunity, at least for 1 more season, then they may as well bring back Bowles as well. I don't want to see Maccagnan given 2-3 more years of mulligans and a de facto extension in an effort to not saddle his replacement with an incumbent HC that Macc hired. They should both get dumped at the end of the season. Sooner, if possible. But if one is retained, then bring them both back so one doesn't get an additional, undeserved free ride with the other's replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I personally like the idea of promoting Morton mid-season and seeing what he could do, ala the Dirk Koetter situation in Tampa a few years back, but I don't know if our GM has the balls to do it. If not, it's really outside the box, but how does everyone feel about trying to nab Sean Payton? Keeps Morton, presumably, and I personally like the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Anyone they want who is available. $$ talk. Bullsh*t walks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better2bgreenthanblue Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 We need a complete overhaul - a two year tank and rebuild. If we got to lose the next 31, bring back Sexy Rexy, might as well be entertained while we wait. Maybe we could do HBO again. Might be interesting watching the firing of Mo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Only way Gruden comes here is if he also gets to be GM or at least pick his own GM How about John as HC and Jay Gruden as OC (assuming he's fired in Washington)? I would take that with the #1 pick. FWIW - I would take a run at Saban and offer the Saints a 2nd rd pick for Payton who may be about done in NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 hour ago, LionelRichie said: There are literally no blue chip prospects on this roster and there is a perpetually dysfunctional reporting relationship where HC and GM both report to the owner. I can see the failed retreads lining up but I don't see a premiere candidate taking over this dumpster fire when other, better positions will be available. Harbaugh is pipe dream, Gruden is a broadcaster - although his brother may be available. Not sure there will be many options who would want this gig. IF the Jets have a choice between Darnold, and Rosen there will be a few holy sh*t guys coming out of the woodwork throwing their name in the hat trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Lupz27 said: IF the Jets have a choice between Darnold, and Rosen there will be a few holy sh*t guys coming out of the woodwork throwing their name in the hat trust me. That implies the HC would have control of the draft....which is not how the NY Jets have historically been run. It would also mean that Macc was mercifully put out to pasture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusionCA Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I personally like the idea of promoting Morton mid-season and seeing what he could do, ala the Dirk Koetter situation in Tampa a few years back, but I don't know if our GM has the balls to do it. If not, it's really outside the box, but how does everyone feel about trying to nab Sean Payton? Keeps Morton, presumably, and I personally like the guy. Koetter was not hired mid season. Lovie Smith was fired at the end of the season after Koetter told them that if they dont make him head coach he will leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, LionelRichie said: How about John as HC and Jay Gruden as OC (assuming he's fired in Washington)? I would take that with the #1 pick. FWIW - I would take a run at Saban and offer the Saints a 2nd rd pick for Payton who may be about done in NO. I don't want Saban. He was a disaster in Miami an has the unfair advantage of being able to pay blue chip players at Alabama. I also don't think there is anyway he would ever come here unless he got busted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Saban? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: ...or Bowles will return. If Maccagnan does have immunity, at least for 1 more season, then they may as well bring back Bowles as well. I don't want to see Maccagnan given 2-3 more years of mulligans and a de facto extension in an effort to not saddle his replacement with an incumbent HC that Macc hired. They should both get dumped at the end of the season. Sooner, if possible. But if one is retained, then bring them both back so one doesn't get an additional, undeserved free ride with the other's replacement. Agree 100% It is amazing how the media and snobby Macagnan-defenders want to setup Bowles as the fall guy. Yeah like it's Bowles's fault Chris Hackenberg, Devin SMith, Lorenzo Mauldin, and basically every draft pick not named Leonard Williams has stunk up the joint. Either they both stay or go. Some lame assistant getting promoted isn't turning Mac's crappy roster into a Super Bowl contender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, LionelRichie said: That implies the HC would have control of the draft....which is not how the NY Jets have historically been run. It would also mean that Macc was mercifully put out to pasture. Based on History things need to change, and for the better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 keep Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Agree 100% It is amazing how the media and snobby Macagnan-defenders want to setup Bowles as the fall guy. Yeah like it's Bowles's fault Chris Hackenberg, Devin SMith, Lorenzo Mauldin, and basically every draft pick not named Leonard Williams has stunk up the joint. Either they both stay or go. Some lame assistant getting promoted isn't turning Mac's crappy roster into a Super Bowl contender Not to excuse the awfulness that is Todd Bowles, but I'd love to the list of head coaches that would supposedly be successful with this roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Just now, Sperm Edwards said: I'd love to the list of head coaches that would supposedly be successful with this roster. Belichick would go 4-12 with this roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Would love Sean Peyton with his choice of GM or in both GM& HC roles ... That man has a nut sack & a f*cking brain ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I like Morton. Id like Todd Haley too has to be an offensive guy with the new qb. Look at the improvement of Goff now that Fisher is gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 hour ago, varjet said: It will be hard to get someone with a future to sign up for this until Woody gives up control. Woody will try and get someone to do it for the money. This. They need to have a football guy in charge. Until that happens, what's the point? The more things change the more they stay the same. That is how they are operating now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said: I like Morton. Id like Todd Haley too has to be an offensive guy with the new qb. Look at the improvement of Goff now that Fisher is gone Todd Haley is an offensive genius. But he would last 7 minutes with the NY media. The guy would meltdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 15 minutes ago, Maxman said: Todd Haley is an offensive genius. But he would last 7 minutes with the NY media. The guy would meltdown. Lol, true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, Maxman said: Todd Haley is an offensive genius. But he would last 7 minutes with the NY media. The guy would meltdown. I think Haley, and Darnold would make a very interesting combination, Darnold is like Big Ben light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: I think Haley, and Darnold would make a very interesting combination, Darnold is like Big Ben light. Woody will pass on Rosen, take Darnold and pair him with the top Division II defensive coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lot K Tailgaters Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Who wants to coach a team where the owner is on a power trip? Woody Johnson is the guy who decided that after firing Tannebaum whatever GM he hired had to retain Rex Ryan. He also hired Todd Bowles before hiring Mac. They both report to Woody. Add to it that you have an impatient fan base who wants to come here? I wouldn't be shocked to see Woody Johnson re-hire Rex next season thinking he can help sell season tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 We'll be fine, no one has ever turned the Jets down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Paul Johnson, Georgia Tech. The triple option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 (door flies open) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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